Yes it is. I fully flashed the factory images on it to update it to 5.1.
Ok so we know that the N6 has the OEM unlock option as does the MX14 when they are on 5.1 but the N5 does not. Idk what to make of that unless it is something that disappears when the bootloader is unlocked and reappears when the bootloader is locked - that would make it even more likely to be a problem for those with devices that were never meant to be unlocked.
Fine, I would agree that maybe a warning saying... "if you're going to unlock the bootloader, do it now, or wait on taking any upgrade"
That is not how I would word it. I would say it like it is -
[LOLLIPOP WARNING]Verizon and AT&T Non-Dev Eds Who Unlocked Via Purchased Codes - Do Not Relock!!
There is an Enable OEM Unlock option that is appearing in the Developer Options on the N6 and MX14 running 5.1 and if it is not checked, you cannot unlock your bootloader. If you have a device that is not on the Motorola unlock list and purchased a code for your device from the Chinese code seller, we do not know what is going to happen wrt this Enable OEM Unlock option for your phone if you upgrade to 5.1.
Until we do, it is safest to not upgrade and stay unlocked until 5.1 drops and the situation becomes clearer.
When it comes to the 2013 X, only the Verizon Retail/MotoMaker, ATT and Republic wireless variants could not get an unlock code from Moto directly. (hence the China middle man being so in demand at the time),
I know that. I bought one myself for my walnut XT1060. Except I wouldn't call him a middleman. He was a code seller. The middleman were the ebayers who you paid to deal with him if you couldn't figure out Tao Bao. I bought directly from him thru Tao Bao using Google Translate and didn't use an ebay middleman.
At first people correctly referred to the ebayers as middlemen, then somehow, it got confused and the code seller was being referred to as a middleman. He wasn't a middleman - the ebayers that facilitated non-Chinese speakers from buying from the code seller were the middlemen.
BUT I bet no one reads or pays attention to the warning (i mean, look how many warnings there are not to downgrade, yet people still try)
But you never will know how many people did read the warnings and never downgraded because of the warnings. They don't post. Why would they, they didn't brick and don't need help. I guess they could post a thank you but usually you only hear from people if they have problems.
So it stands to reason that only those would be in jeopardy of this new feature. (they don't need the option, since Moto never allowed them to unlock in the first place, so this menu option could be hidden/removed).
Yes of course. That was the point I was making - those whose devices are not on the unlock list should avoid relocking and upgrading until we know what is going to happen.
In other words, for all devices which Moto DOES allow you to unlock the bootloader (and gives the unique codes on their web site), Moto is not going to push an update that now prevents you from unlocking the bootloader
I agree, but those devices were never part of the issue I was discussing. I was discussing only the devices for which people purchased codes and only in the situation where they relock and then take the update.
Now that I think about it, those who unlocked via Sunshine may have an issue if they relock and then upgrade.
All of this only becomes an issue if you relock a phone that was never meant to be unlocked in the first place and then upgrade. I made that clear in my original posts on this topic.
There are only a rare few VZW XT1060 who purchased the code from the China Middleman over a year ago, and haven't unlocked yet.
But the issue that I was discussing was those who relock. I can't imagine why someone would have purchased a code and then not unlocked. Very strange.
only the Verizon Retail/MotoMaker, ATT and Republic wireless variants could not get an unlock code from Moto directly.
Ok so add Republic Wireless to the list of those who need to be warned.
I'd be more concerned about those who used Sunshine to unlock.
Warn them too, lol!
The bottom line is this - we simply do not know what is going to happen for these devices that weren't supposed to be unlockable but got unlocked through codes or sunshine. Best for them to sit tight until we do know.
ETA - Warning posted on General
