Here's the fuss about the price

Hitorii

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Lets start this off right.

If you post on this forum, then your an Android fanboy. It's just like that.
That being said, you get defensive and want to defend your product, I know I do.

But here lies the issue. The Xoom is over priced. Period.

Fact - There are Tegra 2 tabs out there on the market. Heck, one of them is even a 10.1 incher! - http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayItem.cfm/242175

What's that? Its priced at 399.00 normal and 369.00 on sale? But this is brand new technology and top notch stuff!

Yes, the G - Tablet IS out and running a Tegra 2 processor, as are a few others.

My point is this. This tablet has nearly everything the Xoom has. Add a front a rear camera and a slightly nicer screen, and 512MB RAM (all relatively cheap for manufacturers) and this price doesn't double.

So please, someone explain how an android tablet priced at 400 can literally double in price based on 2 minor upgrades and FREE software ( Android 3.0)
 
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eallan

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I will absolutely agree that it is overpriced. However the tablet you linked is a piece of garbage, worse screen, no 3g, and no cameras.

All that stuff isn't worth 400 dollars no doubt, but it should be higher priced than the viewsonic. I'd pay 600 for the xoom easy.
 

youareme7

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I will absolutely agree that it is overpriced. However the tablet you linked is a piece of garbage, worse screen, no 3g, and no cameras.

All that stuff isn't worth 400 dollars no doubt, but it should be higher priced than the viewsonic. I'd pay 600 for the xoom easy.
I think that for the Xoom in its current incarnation, $650 would be the sweet spot in my mind; knock off a hundy for the "rumored" WiFi only model and I'm sold. $800 with required VZW activation and 1 month data is far too high. It still surprises me that they think this is how they're going to sell the most. I would think that they'd want to get as many out there as they can, like Apple did. I know people don't like to make the comparison to 1 year old hardware, but we have to remember that when the ipad first came out it was cutting edge tech and they still managed lower prices than this. When Apple is price competitive you know your costs are too high. Also, once they throw down on ipad 2 or whatever you have to believe they're going to keep the same pricing scheme, they definitely tend to maintain the same price structure.
 
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eallan

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I think that for the Xoom in its current incarnation, $650 would be the sweet spot in my mind; knock off a hundy for the "rumored" WiFi only model and I'm sold. $800 with required VZW activation and 1 month data is far too high. It still surprises me that they think this is how they're going to sell the most. I would think that they'd want to get as many out there as they can, like Apple did. I know people don't like to make the comparison to 1 year old hardware, but we have to remember that when the ipad first came out it was cutting edge tech and they still managed lower prices than this. When Apple is price competitive you know your costs are too high.
Bang on. Agree with you completely. I'd buy in line for 650, for 800 and they've lost me. I'll buy an iPad 2 to replace my iPad.
 

Hitorii

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To all above , I agree the sweet spot for this would be ~650. I was ready to put down when a pre order came out. I'm just disappointed.


And yes, I know the G - Tablet has an inferior screen. I just used it as a point of reference to a price point done right for the market. Tack and extra 100 - 150 to make up for inferiorities to a WiFi only Xoom and there is the entry price for a successful tablet.
 

MrDva

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$400 is about my limit for this type of device. You can get an HP slate 500 for about the same price as the Xoom and it's got a Ton more capability and it's still a first gen device.

excitment is over inflating the real value of these devices, everyone be patient don't purchase and they'll come down and start being more opened up.
 

Sirchuk

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Oh I agree, $800 is too much for this tablet. The hardware and software don't justify the cost.

That said, it doesn't change the fact that I'm still likely to get one. It's at the top end of my limit, but I'll still be there on the 14th or 17th or 24th, whenever the hell it comes out.

Why? Because I'm an early adopter. I buy crap like this the day it comes out, and I pay a premium for it. I had an iPad on day one, and honestly, I don't like crapple products. If it wasn't for my wife watching netflix on it I would have post it on ebay or craigslist a long time ago.

And yes, the G tablet is comparable in hardware for a much lower price (even though it is a piece of junk).

The xoom has a key feature though, Honeycomb. I'm sure they worked a lot with Google to get Honeycomb working smoothly, so to say it was free isn't quite accurate, no doubt cheap, but not free. It still costs them money to implement and update (assuming Motorola won't pull a Cliq and will update it.)

Motorola is banking on the fact that Honeycomb will sell this for them, and it will.

I've got 30 days to return it right? I may do so, I may not, we'll see.
 

khov07

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$400 is about my limit for this type of device. You can get an HP slate 500 for about the same price as the Xoom and it's got a Ton more capability and it's still a first gen device.

excitment is over inflating the real value of these devices, everyone be patient don't purchase and they'll come down and start being more opened up.
Not trying to get into an argument here, but...

Have you ever actually used the 500? Sure, by running Windows it's got 'a ton more capability', in theory. In practice, it's a pain to use because it's severely underpowered. We evaluated that device and easily concluded it was not fit for two main reasons: first, it's too sluggish, and second, Windows is not designed for a touch interface. It just doesn't work.

Whatever your feelings are on price with the Xoom, comparing it's usability to the HP Slate is a fail. The proof is in the pudding: the slate has sold poorly, even in the corporate environment.
 

zBlood

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Also another thing to add to the long list, new mobile chip sets are coming next year. Some tablets we could see next year could feature up to 8 gigabytes of ram. You may say LOLWUT, but it's damn true. So why would I as a consumer pay 700-800 bucks for an entry level tablet? I am considering buying a Nook Color and waiting for a proper gingerbread port or buy the new Huawei tablet, or even the next cheap tegra 2 tablet from Velocity Micro which will probably be $250-300.
 

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Also another thing to add to the long list, new mobile chip sets are coming next year. Some tablets we could see next year could feature up to 8 gigabytes of ram. You may say LOLWUT, but it's damn true. So why would I as a consumer pay 700-800 bucks for an entry level tablet? I am considering buying a Nook Color and waiting for a proper gingerbread port or buy the new Huawei tablet, or even the next cheap tegra 2 tablet from Velocity Micro which will probably be $250-300.
if you wait for the newest tech, you'll never actually purchase anything.
 

zBlood

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if you wait for the newest tech, you'll never actually purchase anything.
Not really the case for me, It's just that 4gb-8gb of RAM is a big difference of tablet performance from 500 mb/1gb of ram... especially for 700-800 dollars.

Thats why I'm probably going to be purchasing the Nook Color which is literally half the power of the Xoom.
 

Sirchuk

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Not really the case for me, It's just that 4gb-8gb of RAM is a big difference of tablet performance from 500 mb/1gb of ram... especially for 700-800 dollars.

Thats why I'm probably going to be purchasing the Nook Color which is literally half the power of the Xoom.
Yeah, you can't really comparer the NC to the Xoom, they're totally different. One is a hacked up device to become a tablet, the other sets the stage for the latest in tablet hardware and software. Not that your making an exact comparison, but they're just so different you can't argue them on the same field.

I had the NC, I took it back. Just too slow even on basic web pages and stock android.

I wonder how long it's going to be before your account is closed for a name change, no matter how you spell it, it's still offensive.
 

amitks

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I wonder if Moto has folks looking thru the rants on the net about their potential pricing. 800 + verizon + tax = DOA as most ppl put it... Of course some early adoptors will buy, but Moto will have to do a rethink after the first wave of sales (if there is a wave and not a ripple)...
 

oferico1

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I wonder if Moto has folks looking thru the rants on the net about their potential pricing. 800 + verizon + tax = DOA as most ppl put it... Of course some early adoptors will buy, but Moto will have to do a rethink after the first wave of sales (if there is a wave and not a ripple)...
Yah, I wanted the Xoom so bad my self . I have a sealed Samsung Galaxy Tab which I was going to sell and get the Moto Xoom but, if the Xoom is really over $700.00 which is my budget then, I will just open my Samsung Tab and Root it and enjoy it!! Im sure there are a few good cheaper Tablets on the way so , will just wait a few months and see what is on the way :)