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Director of Engineering of Android disagrees with youStop spreading misinformation.
Honeycomb will have a version for tablets and a version for phones, just like iOS has.
Whether or not the N1 will see an official HC update remains unknown.
Since tablets have been announced using the new operating system rumours have been abound that a potted-down version will be coming to smartphones.
But when asked by TechRadar if the new OS would be coming to mobiles in the future, Dave Burke, Director of Engineering of Android at Google said: "We took the opportunity with Android 3.0 to enhance the UI.
"Right now it's a tablet operating system."
However, the spokesperson also said that in the future Google would like to unite the numbers systems [to stop Android 2.x being for smartphones and Android 3.x for tablets].
I really do not understand what is all the fuss about.
It is quite evident, that the android version currently known as "honeycomb" is aimed solely at tablets. And won't show up in phones, because in its current form it is pointless. Why would anyone want such a thing in his/heirs phone?
One could say, that honeycomb is just a gingerbread with tablet specific extensions bolted on and some funky new UI skin. The skin would be cool of course, but I doubt it warrants a new OS revision.
I really do not understand what is all the fuss about.
It is quite evident, that the android version currently known as "honeycomb" is aimed solely at tablets. And won't show up in phones, because in its current form it is pointless. Why would anyone want such a thing in his/heirs phone?
One could say, that honeycomb is just a gingerbread with tablet specific extensions bolted on and some funky new UI skin. The skin would be cool of course, but I doubt it warrants a new OS revision.
The "fuss" is because of people like you and the false information you keep repeating about android 3.0 being exclusive to tablets, when it is not.
The operating system is made up of more than just a single view.
Android 3.0 is a new version of the Android platform that is specifically optimized for devices with larger screen sizes, particularly tablets
It's the same OS with different views.
It's not two versions of android. If you think that, you are wrong.
You mean a "version" as in "build" or "binary image"?
Would be a very strange thing to do, since it would mean a lot of bloat to carry around. It won't help anyone, since apps will still need to use the phone layout for phones and tablet layouts for tablets.
Like for example, googles own email app. Specifically for tablets it was updated to have the two pane UI. Would you like using such an app on a screen which is some 2 inches wide? I certainly don't.
So the developers will still need to work on 2 different concepts: single pane apps for small screens and 2 (or more) pane apps for big screens.
The OS alone can't make it somehow magically work, since it is not a trivial problem if you want to do it properly. It requires 2 different designs.
Or for example the new system bar with soft buttons. What is the point of such a thing on a phone? You loose that precious LCD area, you loose consistency across the apps (one of the big android UI advantages) and you still have just 4 buttons due to the limited space.
And so on. Thus I think there should(will) be two different versions with different features. The framework underneath can be mostly the same, but you will be forced to make some things different. Exactly like there are two different iOS flawors, one for iphone and another one for ipad. Otherwise it would not make any sense to release the gingerbread and honeycomb in such a short cycle.
Andy Rubin: Very vague statement of what's on Honeycomb is going to be on phones.
Duarte: What's shown on Honeycomb is the overall direction of Android.
Documentation: Apps will be compatible.
Director of Engineering: The current Honeycomb build was made specifically for tablets.
I don't think anyone thinks that Honeycomb is completely new OS. It's Android. We all know that. But it's Android with tablet specific assets and resources. Run it in a phone resolution and all of that new neat Honeycomb stuff is either broken or not there. The launcher, which is the biggest most exiting UI change, is broken. The new taskbar isn't there. The new settings display is not designed for that resolution. You basically get a broken version of the old phone UI mixed with obviously non-phone friendly tablet elements. What does that mean? The current Honeycomb build is not made for phones. The core is the same but everything else was made for tablets. That's all we are saying.
In the future we'll see the new UI skin on phones and probably a lot of the new UI features re-designed and re-conceptualized to work on phones. But the Honeycomb that will be on the Xoom, etc., will not be appropriate to use on phones.
So there will be an SDK which will enable a dev to build one single apk that can run on a tablet as well as on a phone, just like JCopernicus explained above. the market will automatically filter apps that are not compatible with the current screen resolution, if a dev really chooses to make his app exclusive to some display size.
edit: in fact, you can already use the current preview SDK to build such apps, only the bundled core parts are not finished yet.
The final 3.0 sdk is out. This build actually works quite well on a Nexus One sized emulator. The launcher and lock screen both look like gingerbread (with the exception of the notification bar. It is not flat black anymore. and the clock on the lock screen is honeycomb font) The built in apps display themselves as you would expect for a phone resolution, including the new widgets. The Honeycomb animations display about as well as you would expect for an emulator build. The "Holographic" theme looks really neat on pop up windows and such.
Despite the various reports that it will not work on phones... I suspect when the code drops it'll pretty much work out of the box. I also suspect that all of the flagship Honeycomb tablet manufacturers paid for exclusivity so that Google would claim it is just for tablets. So I'm guessing, officially, we wont see Honeycomb for phones until Ice Cream, at which point it will just be Honeycomb with a new name and maybe some added features.
Publishing your app for tablet-type devices only
Additionally, you should decide whether your application is for only tablet devices (specifically, xlarge devices) or for devices of all sizes that may run Android 3.0.
If your application is only for tablets (xlarge screens; not for mobile devices/phones), then you should include the <supports-screens> element in your manifest with all sizes except for xlarge declared false.
With this declaration, you indicate that your application does not support any screen size except extra large. External services such as Android Market may use this to filter your application from devices that do not have an extra large screen.
Otherwise, if you want your application to be available to both small devices (phones) and large devices (tablets), do not include the <supports-screens> element.
Forget Ginga and Honeycomb. Havent you all hear of whats ahead of honeycomb? Its called " Chicken Soup". Yup, ik... Weird name. But its only for dual core over 2ghz. So phones arent ready. Its suppose to be completely holographic 3d without glasses. Pretty neat. And requires horsepower of xbox 360 or more. Anything less and its a no go. Its suppose to be the next gen OS and quantum leap from even honeycomb. Remember the name "chicken soup". Its comming next year by christman. Cant wait!
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But the hardware of the new tablets is the same Tegra 2 of the new phones, so I think the problem is the adaptability of the OS to smaller screens in a way it is usable for our fingers.
Anyone here used the leaked "honeycomb music player"? It has all the new characteristics we saw on the xoom tablet but worked very nice on my Nexus One with 2.2.1.
I think when honeycomb's source code come out we will get working builds.
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It's pretty clear, well not really, that this UI/framework is for tablets only. The way that it displays information and elements wouldn't really work for a small display with a higher software DPI. But Honeycomb is still built on the same base as all other Android versions so it's still... Android. Google has already made it clear that apps will be able to scale up and down via the breaking/connecting of viewing panes. It's just a version with a OS UI optimized for a larger resolution and lower software DPI.
Plus most of what has been said were vague comments of Honeycomb being the direction of Android overall, but never was it very clearly stated that it was necessarily a version that will be on phones. Ice Cream, or whatever the next major phone Android version is, will probably look and act a lot like Honeycomb but with a UI optimized for smaller displays.
That said, I like the UX/interaction of the new UI, but man, can't Google get some decent graphic designers? I like the style and direction but the execution wasn't well done. You all probably think it looks great but I know it could have been done much, much better.