Question how many will update to pixel 8pro?

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NippleSauce

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Welp, the Tensor G3 benchmarks were posted. And unfortunately, it put on a rather disappointing performance scoring only around 8% better than the Tensor G2 overall.
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vv Pixel Phone History Posted Below vv

Ever since that lawsuit smacked Google's phone department, they just haven't really been improving much at all with their cellphone lineup - which is rather upsetting considering how good they were before that lawsuit case had occurred.

For anyone who is not aware, the Pixel 1, 2, 3 and 4 series phones had all released prior to this incident. Then, Google's phone department got sued and lost over $200M (and if you were following this case as it went down, you can unfortunately blame Apple for this). Then, the Pixel 5 released, followed by the 6 and 7 series. The Pixel 5 was the first phone series that Google had released after the lawsuit. At this point in time, Google was attempting to make a financial recovery with their Pixel lineup. That is why the Pixel 5 series was so limited with its options and internal specifications. But then, a year later, we got the Pixel 6 series which went back to a similar setup to what Google had with their Pixel phones before the lawsuit: a Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro (if the lawsuit never occurred, their naming convention may have stayed the same and so the new phones at the time would have been called the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6XL). Anyway, another year then passed and we got the Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro.

So, needless to say at this point, but Google has been going out of their way to (internally) make their phone production since the Pixel 4 series more financially stable. That is why they had released the Tensor processor lineup. Because the Tensor lineup was just Google encasing older components into a new housing. But, if they had advertised their flagship phones utilizing chips that were 2, 3 or 4 years old and outdated, nobody would be interested in purchasing them. That is why they had created Tensor! Because with Tensor, they could use whichever older components that they wanted to (and could still afford during their financial recovery) in order to power the phone and could still advertise that their phones were using a brand new CPU - The Tensor - in order to still pique some interest in their flagship phone lineup!

Anywho, my apologies for the lengthy comment. I just wanted to clarify this stuff as I often see people complaining about things that have occured due to what was written above. A little clarification often goes a long way =P.
 
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Lughnasadh

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Welp, the Tensor G3 benchmarks were posted. And unfortunately, it put on a rather disappointing performance scoring only around 8% better than the Tensor G2 overall.
That, even if real, was ran on a dev board in April. I wouldn't take too much stock in the results. I believe the first leaks of the Tensor 2 came out in September of last year. Plus, benchmarks don't tell nearly the whole story.
 

NippleSauce

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That, even if real, was ran on a dev board in April. I wouldn't take too much stock in the results. I believe the first leaks of the Tensor 2 came out in September of last year. Plus, benchmarks don't tell nearly the whole story.
Of course. This is understandable. I am not disappointed with the Tensor G2's performance as much as I am with the phone's rather disappointing battery life. So, if the G3 really only has an 8% performance improvement over the G2, then that would be fine by me. But, if the new chip design leads to a 30% battery improvement over the Pixel phones utilizing the G1 and G2, then it would be an absolutely amazing device!

That is the true improvement that I am personally looking for =D.


6/30/23 Update For Those Reading This Now:
Welp. I do not know what was specifically changed, however, the latest Android 14 beta build seems to have provided my device with a pretty drastic battery life improvement.
 
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Those are incredibly suspect results...

The MediaTek Dimensity 9200 is the closest to the G3...

G3:

1 X3 @ 3GHz
4 A715 @ 2.45GHz
4 A510 @ 2.15GHz

Dimensity 9200:

1 X3 @ 3.05GHz
3 A715 @ 2.85GHz
4 A510 @ 1.8GHz

The Dimensity scores 1413 single core and 4950 multicore.

The leaked scores for the G3: 1186 single core and 3809 multicore.


The G3 should be pulling MUCH better scores than this, especially the single core result.

I'm leaning towards this being a fake result.
 
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wangdaning

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No. Google would need to beat (not nearly meet) the battery life of the s23 ultra. The phone will be a year newer so meeting last year's king (s23 ultra) wouldn't be enough. For this to happen Google would need to utilize better modems so the phone didn't work so hard to find cell signal, a 3nM processor, and some sort of cooling. Google is fixated on using garbage hardware covered in band-aids via "awesome software," so I don't see that happening. It's always "next year they're gonna release the sacred unicorn pixel ULTRA!" That never happens next year never comes. They won't beat Samsung in anything except picture quality. I'll wait 5 years for the pixel 12. I went from the 2xl to the 7p, and I'll wait just as long this time.
Maybe Samsung borked the modem for Google on purpose, maybe :D
 

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Having used the 6 Pro and 7 Pro, Google seems to let issues remain then fix a few in the next model. The 7 Pro fixed the reception issues from the 6 Pro. However, after using Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 models, the Tensor G2 feels slow, inefficient with battery life, and needs faster charging. I recently got to test a Motorola Edge+ 2023, and with the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, UFS 4.0, stock Android, and 68w charging, that is the fastest device I've used hands down. If the 8 Pro can at least improve overall speed, battery life, and charging speeds, it could be a winner.
 

wugga3

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What on earth are you doing on your device? Not meant to sound negative or anything but on a very busy day in terms of my use I do about 4-5 hours soc with at least 40% remaining
I for one try to take over the world! That's what on Earth I'm doing on my device. After that... It's personal... Nuf said!
 

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It's about time they add what Samsung has had for years...
 

Colchiro

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I struggled deciding to upgrade to an 8 Pro or the Fold. Since the Fold came out first, (and I have no will power), and I'll get $1000 back (monthly credits for 2 years) by upgrading (and monthly payments) from Fi, the Fold won.

Now what happens if I trade it for a Fold 2 after year 1? Do I lose out on the balance of the credit? Never thought of that until now. That would suck to be stuck with a paid off phone for 2 years. 🙄
 

mikebb00

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I'll hold off on the Pixel 8, still waiting for Oppo/OnePlus to work things out with AT&T (LOL!) to get their newer devices certified to work on their network w/all options (eg Hotspot, Wifi Calling, etc) which forced me to return the OnePlus11 and go with P7Pro.
 

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Will probably upgrade because trade-in is only going to get worse. You're essentially paying $200 for a brand new phone. My predicament is I love the camera and how easy it is to root but battery and other things have me itching for a new company to step in. It would be Sony but their prices are insane. The Zenfone 10 has my interest but we'll see what Google has in store.
 

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    Welp, the Tensor G3 benchmarks were posted. And unfortunately, it put on a rather disappointing performance scoring only around 8% better than the Tensor G2 overall.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    vv Pixel Phone History Posted Below vv

    Ever since that lawsuit smacked Google's phone department, they just haven't really been improving much at all with their cellphone lineup - which is rather upsetting considering how good they were before that lawsuit case had occurred.

    For anyone who is not aware, the Pixel 1, 2, 3 and 4 series phones had all released prior to this incident. Then, Google's phone department got sued and lost over $200M (and if you were following this case as it went down, you can unfortunately blame Apple for this). Then, the Pixel 5 released, followed by the 6 and 7 series. The Pixel 5 was the first phone series that Google had released after the lawsuit. At this point in time, Google was attempting to make a financial recovery with their Pixel lineup. That is why the Pixel 5 series was so limited with its options and internal specifications. But then, a year later, we got the Pixel 6 series which went back to a similar setup to what Google had with their Pixel phones before the lawsuit: a Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro (if the lawsuit never occurred, their naming convention may have stayed the same and so the new phones at the time would have been called the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6XL). Anyway, another year then passed and we got the Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro.

    So, needless to say at this point, but Google has been going out of their way to (internally) make their phone production since the Pixel 4 series more financially stable. That is why they had released the Tensor processor lineup. Because the Tensor lineup was just Google encasing older components into a new housing. But, if they had advertised their flagship phones utilizing chips that were 2, 3 or 4 years old and outdated, nobody would be interested in purchasing them. That is why they had created Tensor! Because with Tensor, they could use whichever older components that they wanted to (and could still afford during their financial recovery) in order to power the phone and could still advertise that their phones were using a brand new CPU - The Tensor - in order to still pique some interest in their flagship phone lineup!

    Anywho, my apologies for the lengthy comment. I just wanted to clarify this stuff as I often see people complaining about things that have occured due to what was written above. A little clarification often goes a long way =P.