[How To] Bypass Lloyds and Santander Root Detection

[bombadier]

There is a problem with these new updates for both Halifax and Lloyds Banking apps!

For whatever reason the Halifax banking app version 104.03 and Lloyds banking app 104.03 (Lloyds owns both banks) Crashes on some custom roms and other systems and not sure why? I have only been able to find the Lloyds banking app version 102.02 on APK Mirror. If I install this version the app loads fine (No crash on boot) but once I update it to 104.03 the app crashes? I'm assuming that if I downgrade the Halifax app to 102.03 it will do the same.

I was able to rip the Halifax APK 104.03 file from Google Play Store and install it onto my Nvidia Shield. It boots perfectly fine on that just to test the app. My phone is running the Pixel Experience custom rom. I installed a fresh install of this rom on my phone no mods, no Magisk, no root! The Halifax app still crashes? As mentioned above even my Windows 11 subsystem (Internal Android system) this version of the app 104.03 crashes?

Maybe I will have to wait and see if it's a bug or a security feature in future updates of this app.

In the mean time if anyone on here has an older version of the Halifax app APK file that would be helpful!

All i can suggest at the moment is to try and get a logcat to see what is causing the app to force close, have you tried clearing data/cache after upgrading from the older version? Or a clean install? What rom and android version are you on? I have a pixel 4a running stock android 13, have just installed lloyds app, hid it, rebooted and it loads and authenticates the device but i dont have an account so cant take it further, try and geta log with the error when the app force closes

 

[pauljblo]

can anyone get the vanquis app working?

 

[tyler19820201]

There is a problem with these new updates for both Halifax and Lloyds Banking apps!

For whatever reason the Halifax banking app version 104.03 and Lloyds banking app 104.03 (Lloyds owns both banks) Crashes on some custom roms and other systems and not sure why? I have only been able to find the Lloyds banking app version 102.02 on APK Mirror. If I install this version the app loads fine (No crash on boot) but once I update it to 104.03 the app crashes? I'm assuming that if I downgrade the Halifax app to 102.03 it will do the same.

I was able to rip the Halifax APK 104.03 file from Google Play Store and install it onto my Nvidia Shield. It boots perfectly fine on that just to test the app. My phone is running the Pixel Experience custom rom. I installed a fresh install of this rom on my phone no mods, no Magisk, no root! The Halifax app still crashes? As mentioned above even my Windows 11 subsystem (Internal Android system) this version of the app 104.03 crashes?

Maybe I will have to wait and see if it's a bug or a security feature in future updates of this app.

In the mean time if anyone on here has an older version of the Halifax app APK file that would be helpful!

The thing is you can not really use older version of those banking apps. If you are lucky you can use it for few weeks but later or sooner the app will force you to update whatever cracked older version you use...
I have no time to do a workaround for this right now, but will try to do it next week. If you have any update about it let me know!
I am using custom rom AICP android 11 at the moment. So far i have 6 banking apps on my phone but only Halifax and Lloyds having root detect issue. Actually these two apps are the same. Only the color and logo are different.
Lets see the next few weeks they will do update and how will it work...

 

[tyler19820201]

For the Halifax app (Version 104.03)You need to use the Hide my applist module,follow this excellent guide on setting it up

I have set up HMA just now. So far so good. Halifax Lloyds Santander HSBC Natwest and Barclays has been tested succesfully. I am using latest official Magisk and LsPosed. Shamiko is on after i was disabling config list on magisk settings.
But i dont know if i have any updates of this apps mentioned do i have to update my app list on HMA?? Or will do it automatically?
I mean on magisk some adjustment was neccessary... See the pics below

 

[bombadier]

I have set up HMA just now. So far so good. Halifax Lloyds Santander HSBC Natwest and Barclays has been tested succesfully. I am using latest official Magisk and LsPosed. Shamiko is on after i was disabling config list on magisk settings.
But i dont know if i have any updates of this apps mentioned do i have to update my app list on HMA?? Or will do it automatically?
I mean on magisk some adjustment was neccessary... See the pics below

Should not need to update the app list unless the app update changes something package name, you will know if something stops working and if it does you will have a wee bit of troubleshooting to look forward to

 

[krystiano]

Hi. Can someone help me plz.
My Lloyds app not working on my rooted pixel 6 pro.

I have selected in denylist in magisk app but still app detected root on my phone.

There is any solution for this.
(Barclays working ok )

 

[bombadier]

Hi. Can someone help me plz.
My Lloyds app not working on my rooted pixel 6 pro.

I have selected in denylist in magisk app but still app detected root on my phone.

There is any solution for this.
(Barclays working ok )

Try Hide My Applist or search this thread

 

[samftw24]

Hi. Can someone help me plz.
My Lloyds app not working on my rooted pixel 6 pro.

I have selected in denylist in magisk app but still app detected root on my phone.

There is any solution for this.
(Barclays working ok )

Latest hide my app list, see previous page for guide

 

[OrionBG]

I followed the guide for setting up HMA but I think I'm missing something in the Root list as aps are still seeing it. I put the renamed magisk and HMA but can't find any more to add...

 

[johnr64]

I followed the guide for setting up HMA but I think I'm missing something in the Root list as aps are still seeing it. I put the renamed magisk and HMA but can't find any more to add...

Hi,
I use SDmaid to hide my renamed Magisk on my Poco F3 and this works great , what is the App that is causing you issues

 

[OrionBG]

Hey,
Currently its the Lloyds bank app and British Gas app... Also Revolut... Basically all apps I have that detect root... Something is wrong with my configuration... The funny part is that the detection app that checks if everything is ok is saying ok on all fields so I'm at a loss here.

 

[OrionBG]

Update! Finally got it working. I missed the part about Shamiko and after installing it all apps are happy again

 

[johnr64]

Update! Finally got it working. I missed the part about Shamiko and after installing it all apps are happy again

Hi,
As a test i tried both your problem apps, i first tried the Lloyds bank app, i managed to go as far as the signing up page with out any intervention, but i couldn`t go any further due to not having a LB account.

I then tried the British Gas app but it didn`t load correctly,
i was faced with a white screen and BG logo only,

i unfroze magisk and added BG to the deny list and then re-froze Magisk using SDMaid.

I cleared the BG STORGE/CACHE and without re-starting my Poco F3, the app started working, i managed to go as far as the sign-up page, but again i`m not with BG and i could proceed any further.

The things you do for FUN

 

[OrionBG]

Hi,
As a test i tried both your problem apps, i first tried the Lloyds bank app, i managed to go as far as the signing up page with out any intervention, but i couldn`t go any further due to not having a LB account.

I then tried the British Gas app but it didn`t load correctly,
i was faced with a white screen and BG logo only,

i unfroze magisk and added BG to the deny list and then re-froze Magisk using SDMaid.

I cleared the BG STORGE/CACHE and without re-starting my Poco F3, the app started working, i managed to go as far as the sign-up page, but again i`m not with BG and i could proceed any further.

The things you do for FUN

Yeah the Lloyds app tells you you are rooted after you try to login. It still glitches for me sometimes but will figure it out. British gas app does only show black screen if it sees the root. Works now.

 

[johnr64]

Yeah the Lloyds app tells you you are rooted after you try to login. It still glitches for me sometimes but will figure it out. British gas app does only show black screen if it sees the root. Works now.

Hi,
Strange, i have Santander, Natwest, and Tescos Pay+ (Now Wallet) installed on my F3, "these are all working fine by the way",
if i don`t add them to the deny list and also rename Magisk and then re-freeze Magisk with SDMaid, all three apps detect root at start up?

 

[testemailmailx]

Hi,
As a test i tried both your problem apps, i first tried the Lloyds bank app, i managed to go as far as the signing up page with out any intervention, but i couldn`t go any further due to not having a LB account.

I then tried the British Gas app but it didn`t load correctly,
i was faced with a white screen and BG logo only,

i unfroze magisk and added BG to the deny list and then re-froze Magisk using SDMaid.

I cleared the BG STORGE/CACHE and without re-starting my Poco F3, the app started working, i managed to go as far as the sign-up page, but again i`m not with BG and i could proceed any further.

The things you do for FUN

There other apps facing same issue could you find a way to bypass them ?
Here are the links on google play :
SNB Banking
Government App

 

[johnr64]

There other apps facing same issue could you find a way to bypass them ?
Here are the links on google play :
SNB Banking
Government App

Hi,
I tried SNB and it crashed at start up, i did add it to the deny list, added build props, ect froze magisk with SDMaid but still the same issue.
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i found this on reddit,

I have the same app SNB now they update it to a new version and it crashes load (I think it is detecting root), also tawakalna services, Nafath and absher detects root now.

I have shamiko, Hide my applist and safety net and nothing is working. also tried island. I also pass on all root detectors (YASNAC, Oprek,Applist Detector, Magisk Detector)
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I would suggest to clean install a rom that passes safetynet with out intervention and try installing SNB to see if it works.

I use Evo-X and this passes safteynet, V7.5 has just been released,

You are not alone with this issue

There other apps facing same issue could you find a way to bypass them ?
Here are the links on google play :
SNB Banking
Government App

Hi,
Sorry for not getting back sooner, i managed to get SNB Working,
by installing Shamiko v0.6 Magisk module you need to uncheck Enforce DenyList, for this module to work.

I could not get pass Absher "your device is not secure" nag screen,
I'm assuming it knows i have a unlocked bootloader.

This was tested on a Poco F3 EEA Version, Running a CLEAN install of
Evolution-X V7.5 with OrangeFox Recovery and a renamed Magisk V25.2 being hidden/Frozen by SDMaid,

I hope you sort it.

 

[anoninous7890]

@johnr64 I have a POCO F3 phone too, with magisk V25.2, but a different ROM - I have Pixel Experience.
I have been able to get Santander and Revolut apps to work just fine using this guide, however my Metro bank app is no longer working. Any chance you could tell me if it works for you so that I can perhaps try installing/uninstalling things so my phone is in a similar shape as yours?

It was working fine until 2023/02/07 (or the day before, not 100% sure), and then the next day it gave me the following message when I opened it, after which it closed automatically:
"
SORRY, THE APP CAN'T BE USED ON THIS DEVICE

<Image of blue phone in a grey circle>

To keep you personal information safe,
the app cant be used on this device as the
security configuration on this phone may
have been altered.

OK [This is inside a blue button]
"

Note that the Metro bank app has not had a google play store update since 2023/01/20.
I suspect they have updated their servers to use the new Play Integrity API (which is better at detecting root to my understanding)

 

[johnr64]

Hi, I rebuilt my phone tonight sadly I was also faced the the same security issue, I guess its because my bootloder is unlocked, I hope there is a fix around the corner as I use banking apps regularly on my F3

 

[LaurenceGough]

Guys, simple solution I'd suggest you go with modern banks that aren't so silly on unnecessary "root" detection.

I'd highly recommend Starling, Chase and Natwest banks they all work perfectly fine and have always done so. I'm sure there are plenty more.

I only install Magisk to get Google Pay/Wallet working (SafetyNet) on LineageOS, I really have no need for root otherwise. LineageOS was required for my phone as Motorola broke the stock ROM so badly with their OTA patches that myself and others couldn't even make phone calls without rebooting first.