[How to] Deal with Bloat Safely & Properly {Freeze Method/ROOT} | BIGGER LIST(S)! 3/1

xyrovice

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Looks like my sync was messed up for today noon for some reason. I disabled the Social Messaging Service and rebooted phone. My sync is working. My apologies for the confusion I caused today noon. This is so strange I simply don't understand why it acted so weird today noon.
No worries at all! I'm glad your sync is A-grade, and looks like social messaging service can go on this list...safely ;)

And I promise I'm going to update the OP, and into the two lists as well...soon.
 
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I have a noob question, regarding freezing Home 2.2.1...

I have Launcher Pro installed, but i can't find anywhere where it tells me that it is set as the default. How do i know for sure it LP is set as the default?

I just want to make sure i don't screw something up.
 
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xyrovice

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I have a noob question, regarding freezing Home 2.2.1...

I have Launcher Pro installed, but i can't find anywhere where it tells me that it is set as the default. How do i know for sure it LP is set as the default?

I just want to make sure i don't screw something up.

tap Menu>settings>applications>Manage applications and scroll to launcher pro

Note:
Now, ultimately, your default home launcher is the one you go to once you hit the home button. If there is no default, you'll get a pop up dialog box asking you to choose between Launcher Pro, motoblur, and whatever else, with a little tick box at the bottom to set that as the default.

If you want to be sure, while you're looking in the LP page under manage apps, click "clear defaults" then tap the home button.

You should get the aforementioned dialog box, but be sure to click "Set/use as default (for this action or whatever)".

You're set.
 
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A few others that seem to be safe are based on using K-9 mail client

Gmail
Email 2.2.1
Email Engine 2.2.1 - scratch this one if you want to add calendar events which I do.
MS Exchange services 2.2.1 - don't use exchange

Don't use the fingerprint reader so

Fingerprint Sensor 2.2.1
 
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xyrovice

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A few others that seem to be safe are based on using K-9 mail client

Gmail
Email 2.2.1
Email Engine 2.2.1 - scratch this one if you want to add calendar events which I do.
MS Exchange services 2.2.1 - don't use exchange

Don't use the fingerprint reader so

Fingerprint Sensor 2.2.1
I think I'll add the MS Exchange services 2.2.1, but the others seem like they might be something everybody'd want across the board.

Ultimately, I kind of want to contain the freezing to, more or less, bloat.

Thanks for the info, though!
 

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What would be very helpful is if you could give us an idea of what each element in that list does (is responsible for), because I'm sure some of us need some of the functionality of a few of the elements in that list.

This way we'd be able to freeze ONLY what we personally don't need :D
 

snlu178

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If you use fingerprint scanner fo not freeze TrueSuiteMobile.

I have also frozen with no reprocussion:

Android.feedback
Syncml.service
Extdispservice (still testing)
Photowidget
Date and time 2.2.1 (testing)
Files 2.2.1
Forest Wallpaper 1.0
Global Unplug 1.0
Mediashare 1.0.0
Messaging 2.2.1
Universal Inbox 2.2.1

I will remind those looking at my lists that my goal is to get as close to Vanilla Android as possible. So I may be more aggressive than anyone in getting items turned off. For my two cents I would prefer none of the blur items be running on the phone
 
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snlu178

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Also DO NOT touch Email Engine 2.2.1 unless you want to shut off text, email and calendar.

Another item of note:

I shut off Motorola Services. So far no issues from my quest to eliminate MotoBlur. It turns off MotoBlur in accounts. So nice.

I also installed the compiled email.apk that was based on gingerbread and froze the email app. This gives me Vanilla Email Exchange sync. Much better sans Blur.
 
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xyrovice

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What would be very helpful is if you could give us an idea of what each element in that list does (is responsible for), because I'm sure some of us need some of the functionality of a few of the elements in that list.

This way we'd be able to freeze ONLY what we personally don't need :D
+1

I'll be honest, though I'm compiling this list, I've been wondering the same thing. I was hoping Cellzealot would be able to help, but I'm not sure where he is right now.

I'll say, though, that the added descriptions would be ideal when it comes to a (more or less) complete list. I definitely agree that it'd let people trim off what they don't need while letting them keep things they might find useful (something that they might find useful/cool about Motoblur, for example).

I will keep this in mind and keep an eye out for any material or any members that could help us in this demystification endeavor.

If you use fingerprint scanner fo not freeze TrueSuiteMobile.

I have also frozen with no reprocussion:

Android.feedback
Syncml.service
Extdispservice (still testing)
Photowidget
Date and time 2.2.1 (testing)
Files 2.2.1
Forest Wallpaper 1.0
Global Unplug 1.0
Mediashare 1.0.0
Messaging 2.2.1
Universal Inbox 2.2.1

I will remind those looking at my lists that my goal is to get as close to Vanilla Android as possible. So I may be more aggressive than anyone in getting items turned off. For my two cents I would prefer none of the blur items be running on the phone
Awesome. I'll be updating the list soon, here.

And as I've always said, snlu178, Vanilla is my goal, too. So, I'm glad to see somebody as...zealous? vigilant? Well, I'm just glad we're aiming for the same thing. Thanks for the additional frozen goods, and keep up the good work.

Also DO NOT touch Email Engine 2.2.1 unless you want to shut off text, email and calendar.

Another item of note:

I shut off Motorola Services. So far no issues from my quest to eliminate MotoBlur. It turns off MotoBlur in accounts. So nice.

I also installed the compiled email.apk that was based on gingerbread and froze the email app. This gives me Vanilla Email Exchange sync. Much better sans Blur.
Noted. Thanks for being on the ball...once again.
 

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I would just like to reiterate what others have mentioned about how useful a more detailed list would be. I was hoping you would post a recommended list before you did, and now that you have, I am still a little weary of freezing these services/apps because I feel like they may break things I use. I am not as hardcore as some of you and still use some of the things that came with the phone as I have not found good replacements. If I knew what these services did, I'd be more willing to make my Atrix "cold".
 

snlu178

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I would just like to reiterate what others have mentioned about how useful a more detailed list would be. I was hoping you would post a recommended list before you did, and now that you have, I am still a little weary of freezing these services/apps because I feel like they may break things I use. I am not as hardcore as some of you and still use some of the things that came with the phone as I have not found good replacements. If I knew what these services did, I'd be more willing to make my Atrix "cold".
Yes I believe the OP is working towards this. If you google search the Droid X forums they have done just that. Unfortunately several of these items fall into "unknown" and it takes time to freeze and test the phone as we determine if they are safe or how they relate back to operations.

I will caution, if you are depending on ANY Blur services then freezing almost any component will likely interfere. For my money everything is better without Blur since there are apps that do the job better.
 

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So far at least for me I have found that freezing com.android.providers.applications 2.2.1 causes FC's when you use the google search touch button.

Also for some reason when I freeze motorola services I lose Facebook contact sync and when I defrost it Facebook contact's do not come back? I'm going to look into that and post back
 

snlu178

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Also for some reason when I freeze motorola services I lose Facebook contact sync and when I defrost it Facebook contact's do not come back? I'm going to look into that and post back
yes this turns off all MotoBlur syncing. Especially Exchange, Facebook, MotoBlur Account. Perfect for me.
 

snlu178

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I followed the recommended list, now I am stuck in a boot loop. I am going to have a looong night.
My money is you did not have a home launcher replacement enabled first. You will likely need to do a soft launch. Check the development section for the topic.



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dkirchik

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My money is you did not have a home launcher replacement enabled first. You will likely need to do a soft launch. Check the development section for the topic.



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My LED light wasn't blinking red, but the blue, purple, red, green and clear (almost looked as if at the same time). I went through the power + volume - button to "USB Enumeration" then used Adeo installer to fix it. The Adeo installer went through the whole process in half a minute no reboot, but allowed the phone to boot up. I dont know why - but it fixed it.
 

dkirchik

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My money is you did not have a home launcher replacement enabled first. You will likely need to do a soft launch. Check the development section for the topic.



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Just a question, when freezing any of the apps in TB, I should have a home replacement already enabled?
 

snlu178

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Just a question, when freezing any of the apps in TB, I should have a home replacement already enabled?
The only way to freeze home app and not heve boot loop is to have an alternative launcher installed and set as default. That is where the boot loop came from.
 

xyrovice

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I never froze the home app. :/

Hmm...I'll be taking a closer look at the recommended list then. Obviously, the entire point of this is that it's safe, and if following these procedures resulted in a bootloop, that is not safe.

Also, yes, I've been looking around a lot recently for element descriptions/breakdowns, and will continue to do so. Thank you guys for your patience in this matter.

Also, I'm looking to compile any recent safe additions to the list.

Thank you all for your help and patience so far.