HTC Flagship 2012 - HTC One X (Endeavor) - Tegra 3 - Mega Information Thread

[hamdir]

here is the answer, Nvidia seems to have dropped support for the phone variety of the Tegra 3 chipset (AP) makes sense since it was basically only in the One X/X+ and LG Optimus 4x HD

@shen_ye
Nvidia discontinued the AP33 and AP37 chipsets and aren't releasing 4.4 BSPs for them. the N7(2012) has 4.4 because T30L wasn't dropped.

https://twitter.com/shen_ye/status/423053994601103360

 

[ste_vlad]

here is the answer, Nvidia seems to have dropped support for the phone variety of the Tegra 3 chipset (AP) makes sense since it was basically only in the One X/X+ and LG Optimus 4x HD


https://twitter.com/shen_ye/status/423053994601103360

I think that using the launch date as reference isn't cool, it should be like for cars, support should be 18 months after the product goes out of production. The current mentality only favors the early adopters. So if I buy the One now I'll probably get another 6 months of support, and it's not like I could get too much of a discount, prices are still quite high here in Romania

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[hamdir]

I think that using the launch date as reference isn't cool, it should be like for cars, support should be 18 months after the product goes out of production. The current mentality only favors the early adopters. So if I buy the One now I'll probably get another 6 months of support, and it's not like I could get too much of a discount, prices are still quite high here in Romania

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but if you buy the HTC One now you are still getting a very refined sw at this point, the latest 4.19 / 4.4.2 update for the HTC One is nothing short of amazing simply arrived to flawlessness and amazing battery indurance

so yea you can buy it a year later, at least you get it refined and all optimized instead of watching the slow progress of fixes, still over 8 months of support to go, they have arrived at gen 4.x of sw in less than a year! unheard of for any other Android OEM or even the iPhone

 

[hamdir]

HTC actively exploring the One X updates, blames nvidia

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...kat-update-for-one-x-blames-nvidia-for-delay/

the company appears to be reversing its decision not to provide further Android updates for its 2012 flagship, the HTC One X.

HTC has declined to update the 20- and 14-month-old devices
Last month, the company said neither the One X or the One X+ would receive updates to Android 4.4—both phones were released in 2012 and run Android 4.2, which was released back in November of 2012. The decision was apparently made because the HTC One X+ uses an Nvidia Tegra 3 SoC, and HTC couldn't get the support it needed from Nvidia to update the phone further. The US version of the standard HTC One X uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 SoC "and an upgrade would be possible," writes HTC, "but we didn’t think it would be a good experience for our customer base to update the X, but not the X+."

Apparently, the outcry from One X owners was loud enough that HTC is "actively exploring" the possibility of a KitKat upgrade. Without support from Nvidia, though, the One X+ and international One X will remain stuck on Android 4.2.*When asked why certain Tegra 3-based products like the 2012 Nexus 7 could support Android 4.4 but the One X+ couldn't, the team blamed slight differences in the various Tegra 3 SoCs. We've contacted Nvidia for more information on Tegra 3 support and will update this article if we receive a response.

HTC seems keen to soothe users worried about future device
updates—going forward, HTC is committing to providing updates for
its flagship phones in North America for two years after their release
date. This obviously doesn't apply retroactively (in the case of the
One X+) or to non-flagship phones, and all forward-looking
statements it will likely be subject to change. Still, it may win over
some potential buyers waiting to hear more about the company's
HTC One follow-up (codenamed M8) at Mobile World Congress next
month.

 

[DeeZZ_NuuZZ]

HTC actively exploring the One X updates, blames nvidia

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...kat-update-for-one-x-blames-nvidia-for-delay/

So that means we maybe will get this update?

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[kruzzo]

So that means we maybe will get this update?

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No, we won't be getting the update but the Qualcomm version of the one x may get it.

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[DeeZZ_NuuZZ]

No, we won't be getting the update but the Qualcomm version of the one x may get it.

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stupid HTC could let us get kitkat too because there is a 3.4.x kernel from nvidia which could work with our device and even the older 3.1.10 could work -.-

 

[hamdir]

stupid HTC could let us get kitkat too because there is a 3.4.x kernel from nvidia which could work with our device and even the older 3.1.10 could work -.-

there is no kernel for the AP specific version i the One X series, Nvidia only made it available for their tablets boards

maybe nagging to nvidia will do

LlabTooFeR ‏@LlabTooFeR Feb 16
@S_Nikolaienko Complains won't help. Unless nvidia make BSP for Android 4.4.2. HTC won't port Sense 5.5 on old Android base.

https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/435031298110132224

 

[DeeZZ_NuuZZ]

there is no kernel for the AP specific version i the One X series, Nvidia only made it available for their tablets boards

maybe nagging to nvidia will do


https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/435031298110132224

Yea meant there exists a 3.4.x kernel but not for hox...if HTC really wants to hear to customers etc and want to keep them and get more THEY have to nag them..nvidia is really the worst mobile Soc manufacturer if we speak about phones not tablets...the hox and x+ are having so much potential and got so much better ...but no they don't want to support the tegra in both phones...good job nvidia :thumbup: more and more ppl will hate you

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[hamdir]

Shen Ye (@shen_ye) tweeted at 1:34 AM on Sat, Feb 22, 2014:
So the S3 isn't getting 4.4 either. Should take the heat off the One X for a while...

https://twitter.com/shen_ye/status/437007411262398464

 

[dragonithe]

Can someone tell me wtf is going on with my battery ...?

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[aliHTCDHD]

It's your charger. Try a different one and see if it makes any difference.

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[steve1996]

Reboot and try again

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[dragonithe]

It's your charger. Try a different one and see if it makes any difference.

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Sorry for the late reply, but it was indeed the charger that went crazy.
I've replaced it and have no problems anymore.
Thanks!

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[hamdir]

HamdiR and HTC will go back to tegra this year

This Is Volantis, HTC's Nine-Inch Nexus Tablet

8.9" Display at 2048x1440 (281ppi)
NVIDIA Logan 64-bit processor (Tegra K1)
2GB RAM
16/32GB internal storage
8MP OIS main camera, 3MP front facing camera
Aluminum zero-gap construction
Stereo front-facing speakers
8.91"x5.98"x0.31" body (that's 22.63x15.19x0.79cm)
418g (or 427g with LTE) (that's 14.74/15.1 ounces)

 

[aliHTCDHD]

HamdiR and HTC will go back to tegra this year

This Is Volantis, HTC's Nine-Inch Nexus Tablet

Because sense is so light it should be easy to get it on this nexus. I would not buy this device without sense. I can't live without sense.

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[hamdir]

Because sense is so light it should be easy to get it on this nexus. I would not buy this device without sense. I can't live without sense.

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you don't need Sense on a tablet

Plus it's Tegra, Nvidia been running their own driver updates thanks to their tablets and shield, its also ran by Google

It's Kepler and 64bit, you need the least amount of UI and most amount of driver updates for such a fresh SoC, yes HTC been aggressively updating the M7, arriving to software 6.x but not the drivers

Let's hope it will repeat the first Nexus 7 success, having used both sizes 7 and 10", I can assure you 8.9" will be the sweet spot for tablets

Plus it will introduce the next Android Google has a lot to do in answer to the iOS8

 

[aliHTCDHD]

you don't need Sense on a tablet

Plus it's Tegra, Nvidia been running their own driver updates thanks to their tablets and shield, its also ran by Google

It's Kepler and 64bit, you need the least amount of UI and most amount of driver updates for such a fresh SoC, yes HTC been aggressively updating the M7, arriving to software 6.x but not the drivers

Let's hope it will repeat the first Nexus 7 success, having used both sizes 7 and 10", I can assure you 8.9" will be the sweet spot for tablets

Plus it will introduce the next Android Google has a lot to do in answer to the iOS8

It needs all the latest drivers it can get to perform best.

Not only is Kevlar exciting but the tegra zone will push the graphics further. Although I am excited, I will wait for reviews and full evaluation before jumping at it. I still haven't recovered from the burn wounds that hox left me with. Tegra 4 was a massive joke as well so for me ota a matter of seeing is believing rather than believing all the pr rubbish and numbers the comes out of Nvidia's mouth. I'm sure HTC will deliver with a solid hardware though.

I disagree about Google having lots to do to answer to apple. Google is more feature rich. The only catch-up Google has to do is making android control the entire home quite like ios and have android car like ios car. They also need to make chromebook work well with android. There's not much they can do to the ui just make it flat.

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[hamdir]

It needs all the latest drivers it can get to perform best.

Not only is Kevlar exciting but the tegra zone will push the graphics further. Although I am excited, I will wait for reviews and full evaluation before jumping at it. I still haven't recovered from the burn wounds that hox left me with. Tegra 4 was a massive joke as well so for me ota a matter of seeing is believing rather than believing all the pr rubbish and numbers the comes out of Nvidia's mouth. I'm sure HTC will deliver with a solid hardware though.

I disagree about Google having lots to do to answer to apple. Google is more feature rich. The only catch-up Google has to do is making android control the entire home quite like ios and have android car like ios car. They also need to make chromebook work well with android. There's not much they can do to the ui just make it flat.

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the Shield receives timely updates, also the first Nexus 7 did well and their own Tegra tablets are updated by Nvidia, this is why i am convinced for Tegra it should be AOSP

It's a good thing you bring up Tegra Zone, having spent two years away from Tegra i can tell you while the s600 and s801 simply slaughters T3 and T4 there is really no one pushing hardcore gaming on the playstore like Nvidia did, Qualcomm is fulfilled having prime support from Gameloft, after MC4 the only two games i played were Ripetide GP2 and i've been spending a whole year playing Asphalt 8 as there is simply no other high quality game to play out there (frontline commando 2 and Dead trigger 3 yes but these i dont feel they are proper hardcore games) MC5 is taking ages to release

bottomline you need a game company to push this frontier, but Nvidia must get their relationship right with gameloft this year as there is no one in the mobile world with their budget and graphics expertise for gaming

here is a device to give you an idea of Tegra K1 perfromance at 2k

http://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?ben...os1=Android&api1=gl&D2=Apple+iPhone+5S&cols=2

mind you this is the 32bit A15 version of Tegra K1 and not the 64bit coming to the Nexus

why do you want homescreens to be like iOS, what i meant was Android was so far ahead of iOS, in reviews of iPhones you would see praise for the hardware and quality while they kept saying that iOS is simply in the dark ages now compared to Android, now that Apple simply ripped off Android, we need Google to push far ahead again

 

[aliHTCDHD]

the Shield receives timely updates, also the first Nexus 7 did well and their own Tegra tablets are updated by Nvidia, this is why i am convinced for Tegra it should be AOSP

It's a good thing you bring up Tegra Zone, having spent two years away from Tegra i can tell you while the s600 and s801 simply slaughters T3 and T4 there is really no one pushing hardcore gaming on the playstore like Nvidia did, Qualcomm is fulfilled having prime support from Gameloft, after MC4 the only two games i played were Ripetide GP2 and i've been spending a whole year playing Asphalt 8 as there is simply no other high quality game to play out there (frontline commando 2 and Dead trigger 3 yes but these i dont feel they are proper hardcore games) MC5 is taking ages to release

bottomline you need a game company to push this frontier, but Nvidia must get their relationship right with gameloft this year as there is no one in the mobile world with their budget and graphics expertise for gaming

here is a device to give you an idea of Tegra K1 perfromance at 2k

http://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?ben...os1=Android&api1=gl&D2=Apple+iPhone+5S&cols=2

mind you this is the 32bit A15 version of Tegra K1 and not the 64bit coming to the Nexus

why do you want homescreens to be like iOS, what i meant was Android was so far ahead of iOS, in reviews of iPhones you would see praise for the hardware and quality while they kept saying that iOS is simply in the dark ages now compared to Android, now that Apple simply ripped off Android, we need Google to push far ahead again

Yep they need the latest driver updates to give best performance.

Valantis will definitely be a beast of a tablet. Gaming should be good as long as Nvidia don't screw up on release date, throttling etc.

Yeah that's what I was thinking how can apple possibly have raised the bar on ios since everything that's in ios8 is already in android. But now I understand what you meant, everyone's going crazy over the ios8 and android needs to raise the bar but there's not much they can do. That's why I thought that the only possible thing they can do to get people talking is a new ui and since flat is really lifting off I wouldn't be surprised if they updated the ui since we haven't seen a new ui look ever since ics. But now I have remembered that actually stock android is really lacking in features compared to sense. The camera app is boring, there is no fancy camera features like zoe etc.

I do agree android stock does need a killer feature and compared to sense they are way behind. They should be embarrassed that their oems are making better ui's then them. since ics we've seen nothing exciting. Just small system updates and kernel updates no updates to features or looks. Google have been really lazy. Stock android has become so distant then touchwiz and sense that they have to put android boot symbol just to remind people that it's an android device because their is no official visual way of telling if your running android. Personally I think there should be one ui skin and that's stock and they should put that on every device. Oems should only compete by offering different hardware just like Microsoft. There was no need for multiple ui's it's ruined android and damaged it's brand by making android unrecognizable from oem to oem.

Android should be like apple but have multiple partners. So they should control the software and make killer nexus hardware themselves instead of partnering and they should have a android family. The closest to apple's strategy I have seen is Microsoft. They have wp, windows , tablets and Xbox. If they played their cards right they could screw apple but they're too damn stupid. Apple's the only company that's got it right when it comes to who has the best eco system and that's why people love them. Their devices work well together and everything is simple and easy unlike android and Microsoft. simplicity is what apple excels in and other cannot provide. Microsoft are slowly catching up e.g. Xbox, windows and wp all share the same ui which is a great move, but they have lots to catch-up on.

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