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HTC 10, One M9, and One A9 will all get Android N updates

http://m.gsmarena.com/htc_10_one_m9_and_one_a9_will_all_get_android_n_updates-news-18295.php

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Yes we have more than one report that some sharp units are pinked we have also reports of barely any pink out of box for Tianma like my cousin's unit, this is simply a random glue related affair

Anyway you guys need to stop worrying you saw my tint the first day and now my unit is completely cured on verticals it just dims with no tint even at low brightness only the sides remain just a little which I'm sure will go with time as well

I didn't try to brute force it either just gaming, the sun hitting it in the car etc, using in PS mode while charging, it simply needs to take its time to cure if not cured out of box.

also some of you disagree with me like Adam, but i remain convinced, i much prefer this issue which will cure with time that to have visible patterns on my screen like the sharp vertical lines, nothing i hate more than these things, i cant help it and i can detect them in night usage, will have to see for myself ofcourse
 
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This VR certify announce actually means few things

- the next Nexus will be amoled even if by htc
- the next HTC flagship must be amoled too

Lol I just ordered a cardboard v2 today, my plastic v1 lost its magnet button and I don't want it to scratch the 10

Time to flash preview 3 on N9

That's bad news. The pentile QHD AMOLED display of my S7 Edge looks disappointingly grainy with the Gear VR. Even the iPhone 6s plus with its true 1080p screen looks better with Cardboard.

I would love to try the HTC 10 and it's pixel dense IPS screen with Cardboard.
 

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That's bad news. The pentile QHD AMOLED display of my S7 Edge looks disappointingly grainy with the Gear VR. Even the iPhone 6s plus with its true 1080p screen looks better with Cardboard.

I would love to try the HTC 10 and it's pixel dense IPS screen with Cardboard.

i ordered v2 cardboard just for that (and not to scratch the 10 lol)

but the requirements were set for the refresh rate and black level
 
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Sequential is quite low, less than 20MB/s

Random read isn't great and the random write isn't great either.

For security reasons you CAN do it.......................but I'd honestly get a bigger and better card tbh. Sandisk cards easily hit 10MB/s random read - 2MB/s random write. Sequential read should be around 20MB/s minimum too. The 128GB sandisk ultra can hit 40MB/s write

Thnx for answer. I will leave it as it is then. This card server me good for 2 years now, but I agree, should look for some Sandisk ulra. Not 128 GB, I have no need for it. Maybe 32/64 max.
 

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so the general conclusion everywhere (on the ground), is that the HTC 10 and S7 edge are the best two phones in the world and the best two cameras, the G5 squeezed out due to its weird design/concept, the P9 went to the ignore list and the iPhones are now way back behind especially the camera

just saying
 
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Anyone else experiencing a squeaky home button/fingerprint sensor? It seems like the left side of the button unglued from the screen assembly because it has a little bit of play when pressing/touching it...
 

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Yes we have more than one report that some sharp units are pinked we have also reports of barely any pink out of box for Tianma like my cousin's unit, this is simply a random glue related affair

Anyway you guys need to stop worrying you saw my tint the first day and now my unit is completely cured on verticals it just dims with no tint even at low brightness only the sides remain just a little which I'm sure will go with time as well


also some of you disagree with me like Adam, but i remain convinced, i much prefer this issue which will cure with time that to have visible patterns on my screen like the sharp vertical lines, nothing i hate more than these things, i cant help it and i can detect them in night usage, will have to see for myself ofcourse

Returning my HTC 10 with the yellow tint and reordered! :fingers-crossed: I will let everyone know if its a sharp panel! Actually hoping for the pink tint over the yellow as the pink goes away like @hamdir says :highfive:
 

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so the general conclusion everywhere (on the ground), is that the HTC 10 and S7 edge are the best two phones in the world and the best two cameras, the G5 squeezed out due to its weird design/concept, the P9 went to the ignore list and the iPhones are now way back behind especially the camera

just saying

I had the G5 and purely on a camera level I think the HTC 10, G5, and S7 edge are all on par, each with its own advantages, but the LCD on the G5 is really not very good and very average. I returned my G5 since it was an OK lcd and the battery life was poor. Speaker quality on the G5 is actaully very very good. Kinda surprised me. Nothing beats the build quality of the HTC 10 though, nothing does. That Wide angle camera on the G5 is fun though. Very fun, surprised me alot.
 

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i think that was the general conclusion by @gavinfabl as well but being inferior in other areas makes the G5 squeezed out between the two :)

Yup :) give me the Build of the HTC 10, the cameras of the G5, and the Battery of the Edge and you have a perfect phone ;)

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yellow tint? lol

Yeah my unit, the bottom part, about a centimeter and and a half up was yellowish. Drove me insane on twitter or Gmail or on google chrome. Especially noticeable when scrolling. At first I though it was the angle but I held it upside down and I could still only see it on the part. Must have been a defect lol.

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@hamdir,

Finished to find a game where the m8 was in difficulty vs the HTC 10 that had no problems.

It's your beloved asphalt overdrive [emoji2] .

In optimal quality no problem at all for the m8, but at maximum quality problems arrived...

The game was lagging a lot and the temp climbed, climbed and climbed till 52 degrees, then I stopped the game (15 minutes of gaming! ).

I suppose it's due to the weak gpu of the m8, or is the game bad optimised for the m8?
Such a difference between optimal quality and best quality mode ? [emoji15] .

That's the first and only time I saw a game or a app doing so bad on my m8.

So I won't take any final conclusion now... I will use game bench tool first to see what happens inside and why the temp climbed so much...

Envoyé de mon HTC 10 en utilisant Tapatalk
 

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    Hello
    Long time no see here
    After a year with the OP 7 pro I wonder which phone will replace it. S21 Ultra? Mi 11? Mi 11 Pro ?
    Which one will have a better root and roms choice?
    Looks like this time exynos is good enough on s21u. Dunno what's Hamdir thoughts about it
    I was very impressed with the S21 Ultra. First time a Samsung phone interested me in a long time.

    By the end of this year, Samsung will implement AMD GPU into their Exynos line up. So that will be another big boost if done properly

    I'm still rocking my u12+. So will wait to see what Samsung do (if they release a Note 21 Ultra, as it's unlikely). If not, then Fold 3 and the Pixel 6 is what I'll be looking forward to.
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    update 11/4/2016: the render are extremely close, official HTC 3D renders

    HTC 10 / One M10 / Perfume 3D Renders - dual tone metallic colors (original date 16/3/2016)

    click for bigger size

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    original model was provided by temp64GTX and I have corrected it overall, its now accurate from all sides, in the upcoming days ill post more colors and other angles

    these are the changes on top of the original turbosquid model:

    - front chamfer higher and less thick
    - rear chamfer bigger
    - camera location
    - nav buttons size and location
    - screen size
    - bezel
    - slimmer side
    - added black protective frame around the screen
    - raised 2.5d glass
    - removed the top right hole, its not hole, its a strip
    - added the right tray

    corrections are based on my my latest measurements
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    here we go, after a week of hell, this finally landed here today (TW 32GB)

    photos taken by the M9S:

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    my 10 rave fitbag arrives on Tuesday but my trusty old M8 one works as well

    I need to express my thanks for @imOJ for all the trouble he went through to help me get this, this guy rocks and i love Dubai!

    phenomenal build quality, this must be the first time i've unboxed an HTC flagships with zero QC quirks, despite all the beauty shots and my work on the 3D render it still hit me, the buttons are simply insane like an expensive piece of machinery, the chamfer makes the phone feels so slim and the weight is the same for M8 / M9 carriers, the grey and the black 2.5D glass combo is simple drool inducing, those getting the silver white are making a huge mistake, there are no plastics to be seen and even the plastic patch on top is awesome

    the box looks the same as the M9 from the outside but the inside is fancier, soft coated and much better organized, all the included stuff QC 3.0 charger, earbuds and Type-C cable feels much fancier than previous devices, by the time you finish unboxing one conclusion is clear, this is new chapter for HTC

    the camera out of box is nothing like we've seen lately so i've skipped testing it and installing 1.30 before i touch it

    the screen is on the surface and anyone thinking otherwise is lying to himself, the screen looks pinkish out of box for few reasons: auto brightness and the vivid mode, i have spent half an hour testing various settings, angles and doing comparisons which i will show you tomorrow but for now: I have strong evidence that this a matter of glue, actually its right there in @jmitr photos ;)

    once you raise the brightness to full and change your settings the screen will impress, i agree with David Ruddock, Vivid mode sucks! it's almost disgusting so i have switched to sRGB mode which is gorgeous and the temp slider to full cold, never seen such good whites, even with sRGB it's still greatly saturated vs M9, in short with sRGB this is extremely close to the iPhone, the coolest bit? using it at full brightness with auto disabled doesnt warm the screen at all (suggesting that the screen brightness is capped with the real full reserved for the sun)

    ghosting...sadly its true, its a regression from the M9 but hey i've spent the year fighting with everyone here who refused to believe that the M9 screen is much better versus the M8 in terms of smoothness feel ie: refresh rate, so if you worship the M8 screen you will have no problem as the 10 is better than the M8 just not as good as the M9 in terms of ghosting

    speakers: OMG, just ignore all the non sense you've read, its LOUD, louder than the M9 and the sound is much crisper, its just not dimensional like the M9 but its clearer and louder from every angle, finally music mode makes the difference, it sounds like stereo, the default theatre mode is inferior to the M9, we have yet another incident of reviewers being too lazy to switch a stupid setting

    more tomorrow
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    I have decided to show you this, my mockup of the M10, because i don't want to give Evan the pleasure of spoiling the M10 for us, like he did with that God awful washed out photo he has released, here is my render of the M10 which i had made earlier but now corrected to measurements after Evan's front reveal, this is made from all the insider information i have of the M10

    note: this mockup does not show the hidden thing on the front ;)

    you can really understand the codename now, this is the cleanest most symmetrical phone HTC ever made, it contains the essence of HTC but fulfils everything the press has been asking for
    - no logo bar
    - improved screen to body ratio hence its expect to have the same size as M9 with bigger screen, 5.2"
    - AOSP like UX
    - heavy loaded camera hardware

    update v2: refined render with corrected rear camera size, fingerprint shape and clearer bezel
    update v3: fractionally wider in order to perfectly fit the M9+ 5.2" screen proportions and every sensor on the front including the speaker was readjusted to match the evleak photo, brighter colors, fixed broken front USB center on v2
    update v4: adjusted fingerprint shape based on evidence of alternate prototype, so it could be either v3 or v4 as two prototypes exist
    update v5: bigger rear camera and flash/IR, antenna's location corrected based on latest leak, FP scanner, speaker, front camera and proximity corrected using the white photo
    update v5a with Sense 8 mock-up: trying to show case how the M10 looks with black wallpaper thanks to Amoled and Sense 8 colors, Desire 825 capacitive buttons plus color tweaks here and there for better looks
    update v6a: added the back chamfer matching the silver leak, hence rear camera combo gets smaller just a bit and the side tapers approach M9
    update v7a: back chamfer is now more solid
    update v8: added real Sense 8 icons

    update 4/3/2016: the official M10 render was leaked, comparison with my mock-ups over here

    My pre-leak mock-up vs official leaked render by evleaks

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    HTC One M10 - codename Perfume mock up renders

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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v6a with Sense 8 mock-up
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v6a
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v5a with Sense 8 mock-up
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v5a
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v5b
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v4
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v1
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    A9/Aero - official render
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    M9/Hima - official render
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    here we can see the metallic bumper accessory, how v5 was corrected and comparison between A9/M9/M10
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    HTC 10 / One M10 / Perfume 3D Renders - Black





    click for bigger size

    original model was provided by temp64GTX and I have corrected it overall, its now accurate from all sides, in the upcoming days ill post more colors and other angles

    these are the changes on top of the original turbosquid model:

    - front chamfer higher and less thick
    - rear chamfer bigger
    - camera location
    - nav buttons size and location
    - screen size
    - bezel
    - slimmer side
    - added black protective frame around the screen
    - raised 2.5d glass
    - removed the top right hole, its not hole, its a strip
    - added the right tray

    corrections are based on my my latest measurements
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    Well guys, it's a sad day. For the first time since I started using Android, I won't be buying the HTC flagship. It's sad because I really love HTC phones, and I got my start as a developer on HTC phones. But I think it's time to move on. My sincere thanks to all the HTC community here for supporting my kernels and apps over the years. I hope people aren't let down by me not getting the U12. I'll continue to support my kernels for the 10 and U11.

    Why am I not getting the U12? The honest answer is not enough users. I spend several thousand dollars per year on phones, supported by the revenues from my apps. It's pretty much a guarantee that I will lose money on the U12. I'm already really busy with more popular devices, so I can't justify spending another $1100 on a device that will have few users and require a lot of effort to maintain. HTC devices are a huge hassle to support compared to Pixel and OnePlus and even Moto. HTC still sends their kernel sources as a blob with no commit history, and they are routinely several months late in releasing them. Plus there are endless variants and weird HTC-specific quirks to deal with.

    Back in the day, HTC was definitely the best. Phones like the One S and m7 really stood above the competition. Looking back, it was the m9 that killed HTC. It was really a dud. The brilliance of the HTC 10 couldn't make up for it and although the U11 was a fine phone, I just never enjoyed it as much as my other current phones, which have really progressed in the last couple years.
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