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If the camera hardware on pixel 2 and u11 is the same, we can get the Google camera Port on the u11 and enjoy the portrait mode improvements. Looking forward.

Also u11+ seems to remove the only minor issues with u11 - less bezels and ip68 support. Very tempting but what do I do with my u11 ?:)
On the U11+: only as long as you'd like an even larger phone that the U11, that in addition moves the fingerprint scanner onto the back.

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On the U11+: only as long as you'd like an even larger phone that the U11, that in addition moves the fingerprint scanner onto the back.

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This is the design of u11+? IMG_20171005_092118.jpg

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Don't think it will be significantly larger. Don't mind fp at the back too. U11 level of performance/camera with bezelless screen for around 650(200 less than s8+ or pixel XL 2), it can be the better phablet choice.
 

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I don't think it will be that price at release or soon after.
S8+ is at 670€ in Germany now what was the price i paid for U11 at release. And the screen will for sure make it more expensive. If i had to guess I would say it will be more near at 800€. HTC was never cheap and they will propably go on the same train as the other brands did.
 

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This is the design of u11+? View attachment 4293275

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It says in the image that it's a concept, i.e. a fan render rather than a leak.

I'm sure the smallness of the top/bottom bezels is exaggerated, though the basic idea (larger screen, smaller bezels, back like U11 with FP scanner) is probably right because that's the simplest and most obvious thing for them to do.
 
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this would be phone what I like:
5,5" OLED pretty much bezeless but little bezel is good
boomsound front speakers on edges
physical landscape keyboard because then I have whole screen free and it looks awesome in slim body too ;)
newest CPU and GPU
3000mh battery at least
USB type C
IP68
front fingerprint scanner would be nice behind display or something like that :)
wireless charging and quick charge 4?
I'm happy with HTC U11 camera... awesome

this is phone what I would like to buy even 1000€

how you guys would like phone like that and made by HTC? would you buy it?
 
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I don't think it will be that price at release or soon after.
S8+ is at 670€ in Germany now what was the price i paid for U11 at release. And the screen will for sure make it more expensive. If i had to guess I would say it will be more near at 800€. HTC was never cheap and they will propably go on the same train as the other brands did.

The regular s8 can be had for 530 euros If you buy it from Saturn , which is a lot cheaper than the 670-650 euros for the “discounted “ u11 , if the u11+ is 800 euros, for me it’s dead on arrival , it’s not the real flagship and a new u12 (?) will come out in 5-6 months :/ who would buy this ? It needs to be no more expensive than 700 euros.

I don’t know one but I’m afraid that htc will try to match the v30’s price aka 900 euros and they cannot afford to do that !

Evleaks promised he would give us more information on the u11+ this weekend , let’s hope he gives us something substantial !
 
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no this is just a concept of the leaked specs, the bezel is more similar to the XL2 if not worse, still massively better than the u11, sadly we dont gain a decrease in size but it will surely be more comfortable to handle
Thought O'Brian meant the bezel gonna be smaller than XL2? [emoji53]

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So now the Pixel has pretty much every important feature as HTC's flagship, plus more.

I'm failing to see why anyone would stick with HTC at this point, going forward.

I must admit that I pre-ordered a Pixel 2 XL, so maybe I shouldn't talk, but the U11 is almost half the cost. I'm actually still thinking about cancelling the pre-order and ordering a U11 while they have the sale going on.

It's almost like we need another category above flagship. The Pixel is that much more expensive. It belongs in the same class as the iPhone X.

People probably won't stick with HTC, they've been declining for years. But people SHOULD stick with them because the One series are good phones at a reasonable price.
 

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So now the Pixel has pretty much every important feature as HTC's flagship, plus more.

I'm failing to see why anyone would stick with HTC at this point, going forward.
Price?
But yeah other than that a few sense features and that's about it.

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Not sure if price is really an advantage though.

The U11 is doing a limited-time promo for $549USD right now, but most of the time it's $649USD.

The Pixel 2 (not counting the XL, cause that's more in the Note 8/iPhone Plus category) is also $649. Google is also offering a Google Home Mini for free with pre-order. That's a value of $49, so you could say you're getting the phone for $599. That's only a $50 difference, and with that difference you're gaining front-firing speakers, a likely superior camera, the best Android experience (how could it not be?), an OLED display, and free full-res photo storage. The Pixel 2 also offers all the BT audio codecs (LDAC, APTX, and APTX HD), which lessens the pain (IMHO) surrounding the loss of the headphone jack.

The Android competition is so tough this year.
 
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Not sure if price is really an advantage though.

The U11 is doing a limited-time promo for $549USD right now, but most of the time it's $649USD.

The Pixel 2 (not counting the XL, cause that's more in the Note 8/iPhone Plus category) is also $649. Google is also offering a Google Home Mini for free with pre-order. That's a value of $49, so you could say you're getting the phone for $599. That's only a $50 difference, and with that difference you're gaining front-firing speakers, a likely superior camera, the best Android experience (how could it not be?), an OLED display, and free full-res photo storage. The Pixel 2 also offers all the BT audio codecs (LDAC, APTX, and APTX HD), which lessens the pain (IMHO) surrounding the loss of the headphone jack.

The Android competition is so tough this year.
Honestly pixel 2 is way uglier than u11, I rather looking at the prettier design on u11 than receiving updates first

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why are you surprised its well known the u11 has an amazing camera just few weeks ago it was the very best for the first half of the year, same hardware as the XL2 camera, in fact it still has the best IQ, just make sure to keep it on Auto HDR (which is actually HDR+) all the time and enable touch exposure from the settings
One more question here,thanks in advance,yes touch exposure is enabled,but does that mean i need to touch the screen before i actually take a photo,or it needs just to be enabled? Noobbbbb thanks again... :good:
 
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    update 11/4/2016: the render are extremely close, official HTC 3D renders

    HTC 10 / One M10 / Perfume 3D Renders - dual tone metallic colors (original date 16/3/2016)

    click for bigger size

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    original model was provided by temp64GTX and I have corrected it overall, its now accurate from all sides, in the upcoming days ill post more colors and other angles

    these are the changes on top of the original turbosquid model:

    - front chamfer higher and less thick
    - rear chamfer bigger
    - camera location
    - nav buttons size and location
    - screen size
    - bezel
    - slimmer side
    - added black protective frame around the screen
    - raised 2.5d glass
    - removed the top right hole, its not hole, its a strip
    - added the right tray

    corrections are based on my my latest measurements
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    here we go, after a week of hell, this finally landed here today (TW 32GB)

    photos taken by the M9S:

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    my 10 rave fitbag arrives on Tuesday but my trusty old M8 one works as well

    I need to express my thanks for @imOJ for all the trouble he went through to help me get this, this guy rocks and i love Dubai!

    phenomenal build quality, this must be the first time i've unboxed an HTC flagships with zero QC quirks, despite all the beauty shots and my work on the 3D render it still hit me, the buttons are simply insane like an expensive piece of machinery, the chamfer makes the phone feels so slim and the weight is the same for M8 / M9 carriers, the grey and the black 2.5D glass combo is simple drool inducing, those getting the silver white are making a huge mistake, there are no plastics to be seen and even the plastic patch on top is awesome

    the box looks the same as the M9 from the outside but the inside is fancier, soft coated and much better organized, all the included stuff QC 3.0 charger, earbuds and Type-C cable feels much fancier than previous devices, by the time you finish unboxing one conclusion is clear, this is new chapter for HTC

    the camera out of box is nothing like we've seen lately so i've skipped testing it and installing 1.30 before i touch it

    the screen is on the surface and anyone thinking otherwise is lying to himself, the screen looks pinkish out of box for few reasons: auto brightness and the vivid mode, i have spent half an hour testing various settings, angles and doing comparisons which i will show you tomorrow but for now: I have strong evidence that this a matter of glue, actually its right there in @jmitr photos ;)

    once you raise the brightness to full and change your settings the screen will impress, i agree with David Ruddock, Vivid mode sucks! it's almost disgusting so i have switched to sRGB mode which is gorgeous and the temp slider to full cold, never seen such good whites, even with sRGB it's still greatly saturated vs M9, in short with sRGB this is extremely close to the iPhone, the coolest bit? using it at full brightness with auto disabled doesnt warm the screen at all (suggesting that the screen brightness is capped with the real full reserved for the sun)

    ghosting...sadly its true, its a regression from the M9 but hey i've spent the year fighting with everyone here who refused to believe that the M9 screen is much better versus the M8 in terms of smoothness feel ie: refresh rate, so if you worship the M8 screen you will have no problem as the 10 is better than the M8 just not as good as the M9 in terms of ghosting

    speakers: OMG, just ignore all the non sense you've read, its LOUD, louder than the M9 and the sound is much crisper, its just not dimensional like the M9 but its clearer and louder from every angle, finally music mode makes the difference, it sounds like stereo, the default theatre mode is inferior to the M9, we have yet another incident of reviewers being too lazy to switch a stupid setting

    more tomorrow
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    I have decided to show you this, my mockup of the M10, because i don't want to give Evan the pleasure of spoiling the M10 for us, like he did with that God awful washed out photo he has released, here is my render of the M10 which i had made earlier but now corrected to measurements after Evan's front reveal, this is made from all the insider information i have of the M10

    note: this mockup does not show the hidden thing on the front ;)

    you can really understand the codename now, this is the cleanest most symmetrical phone HTC ever made, it contains the essence of HTC but fulfils everything the press has been asking for
    - no logo bar
    - improved screen to body ratio hence its expect to have the same size as M9 with bigger screen, 5.2"
    - AOSP like UX
    - heavy loaded camera hardware

    update v2: refined render with corrected rear camera size, fingerprint shape and clearer bezel
    update v3: fractionally wider in order to perfectly fit the M9+ 5.2" screen proportions and every sensor on the front including the speaker was readjusted to match the evleak photo, brighter colors, fixed broken front USB center on v2
    update v4: adjusted fingerprint shape based on evidence of alternate prototype, so it could be either v3 or v4 as two prototypes exist
    update v5: bigger rear camera and flash/IR, antenna's location corrected based on latest leak, FP scanner, speaker, front camera and proximity corrected using the white photo
    update v5a with Sense 8 mock-up: trying to show case how the M10 looks with black wallpaper thanks to Amoled and Sense 8 colors, Desire 825 capacitive buttons plus color tweaks here and there for better looks
    update v6a: added the back chamfer matching the silver leak, hence rear camera combo gets smaller just a bit and the side tapers approach M9
    update v7a: back chamfer is now more solid
    update v8: added real Sense 8 icons

    update 4/3/2016: the official M10 render was leaked, comparison with my mock-ups over here

    My pre-leak mock-up vs official leaked render by evleaks

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    HTC One M10 - codename Perfume mock up renders

    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v8 with Sense 8 mock-up
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v7a with Sense 8 mock-up
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v7a
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v6a with Sense 8 mock-up
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v6a
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v5a with Sense 8 mock-up
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v5a
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v5b
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v4
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v3
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v2
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    M10/Perfume - mock-up render v1
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    A9/Aero - official render
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    M9/Hima - official render
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    M10's bezel improvements vs the A9 (sense screenshot from A9)
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    and this cutout to give you an idea of the back curvature and edges
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    here we can see the metallic bumper accessory, how v5 was corrected and comparison between A9/M9/M10
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    HTC 10 / One M10 / Perfume 3D Renders - Black





    click for bigger size

    original model was provided by temp64GTX and I have corrected it overall, its now accurate from all sides, in the upcoming days ill post more colors and other angles

    these are the changes on top of the original turbosquid model:

    - front chamfer higher and less thick
    - rear chamfer bigger
    - camera location
    - nav buttons size and location
    - screen size
    - bezel
    - slimmer side
    - added black protective frame around the screen
    - raised 2.5d glass
    - removed the top right hole, its not hole, its a strip
    - added the right tray

    corrections are based on my my latest measurements
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    Well guys, it's a sad day. For the first time since I started using Android, I won't be buying the HTC flagship. It's sad because I really love HTC phones, and I got my start as a developer on HTC phones. But I think it's time to move on. My sincere thanks to all the HTC community here for supporting my kernels and apps over the years. I hope people aren't let down by me not getting the U12. I'll continue to support my kernels for the 10 and U11.

    Why am I not getting the U12? The honest answer is not enough users. I spend several thousand dollars per year on phones, supported by the revenues from my apps. It's pretty much a guarantee that I will lose money on the U12. I'm already really busy with more popular devices, so I can't justify spending another $1100 on a device that will have few users and require a lot of effort to maintain. HTC devices are a huge hassle to support compared to Pixel and OnePlus and even Moto. HTC still sends their kernel sources as a blob with no commit history, and they are routinely several months late in releasing them. Plus there are endless variants and weird HTC-specific quirks to deal with.

    Back in the day, HTC was definitely the best. Phones like the One S and m7 really stood above the competition. Looking back, it was the m9 that killed HTC. It was really a dud. The brilliance of the HTC 10 couldn't make up for it and although the U11 was a fine phone, I just never enjoyed it as much as my other current phones, which have really progressed in the last couple years.
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