Ex-HTC Flagships - Mega Tech Discussion Thread

[Chad_Petree]

Even if I set the brightness to 100% it it's still there (aside from killing the battery ) and even if make the screen colder (which i don't want ) .

Send it back. It shouldn't be your problem if they deliver faulty devices. I would try it one more time - if they fail to deliver a faultless device again, get a ("Übergangshandy") till the 11 will be released or get something else. I did the same with one One X but had way more exchanges - wouldn't do that again.

Yeah I'm gonna give the HTC 10 a third try , it's really unacceptable , I think I'll keep my Nexus 6p if I get a third defective device and wait for maybe the HTC 11 if the price is right , I just want a properly working HTC 10 to be honest , don't feel like paying 700 euros.

I can't help but keep being disappointed on Google , the thing I do the most on my phone is use the browser , but Chrome's performance it's so awful , it lags & stutters , that shouldn't happen on a device with a snapdragon 820 and 4 GBS of ram ....

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[hamdir]

Tried it and it says it's good. I still have no idea why the led is blinking red though. I will try to catch it in a video, because it is completely random.

check your battery temps, it might be over heating

 

[hamdir]

but Chrome's performance it's so awful , it lags , stutters , that shouldn't happen on a device with a snapdragon 820 and 4 GBS of ram ....

HTC 10 performance is signficantly upgraded if you do the uncapping procedure, especially in extended usage

just remember after 32c on stock htc 10 you are basically working on a three cores s820....

 

[khandelwalsiddharth]

I just got it yesterday , so I still have 13 days to exchange it , which I will do yes I'm not a patient person , it's only the bottom of the phone (again !) , It stares at me all the time , since I use Google's (white ) keyboard :/

I don't think I can wait that long , this should work out of the box , poor quality control on HTC's part , this is my second device ( the first one I got months ago and I thought it was maybe an early bad batch , but this one I bought directly from HTC )

The red tint doesn't bother me that much , because I don't tilt my phone all the time , the yellow bottom hue in the other part ....

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How do you guys see the tint? I can hardly judge. I got my phone on Wednesday. Anything else to be seen apart from screen?

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HTC 10 performance is signficantly upgraded if you do the uncapping procedure, especially in extended usage

just remember after 32c on stock htc 10 you are basically working on a three cores s820....

What's the uncapping procedure? Is that the powerbotic thing?

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HTC 10 performance is signficantly upgraded if you do the uncapping procedure, especially in extended usage

just remember after 32c on stock htc 10 you are basically working on a three cores s820....

What's the uncapping procedure? Is that the powerbotic thing?

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

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HTC 10 performance is signficantly upgraded if you do the uncapping procedure, especially in extended usage

just remember after 32c on stock htc 10 you are basically working on a three cores s820....

What's the uncapping procedure? Is that the powerbotic thing?

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

 

[Chad_Petree]

HTC 10 performance is signficantly upgraded if you do the uncapping procedure, especially in extended usage

just remember after 32c on stock htc 10 you are basically working on a three cores s820....

Why would HTC do that ? To save battery life ? Now I'm confused , I thought the snapdragon 820 worked with 2 regular cores and two low power cores not all 4 at once .

I promised myself I wouldn't be tinkering with bootloaders , root and jailbreak again , a device needs to work out of the box , customizing a device it's a different think for me , can't afford to lose my warranty again .

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[massalami]

Why would HTC do that ? To save battery life ? Now I'm confused , I thought the snapdragon 820 worked with 2 regular cores and two low power cores not all 4 at once .

I promised myself I wouldn't be tinkering with bootloaders , root and jailbreak again , a device needs to work out of the box , customizing a device it's a different think for me , can't afford to lose my warranty again .

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Probably because of the whole overheating debacle that doomed the m9, so they decided to play it safe

 

[Explore The Universe]

http://venturebeat.com/2016/10/14/this-is-the-htc-bolt-in-the-wild/

 

[petvas]

http://venturebeat.com/2016/10/14/this-is-the-htc-bolt-in-the-wild/

Why is HTC bringing this device on the market? I still do not understand their marketing strategy. So many different product lines at similar price points. It does not make any sense to me..

 

[Explore The Universe]

Why is HTC bringing this device on the market? I still do not understand their marketing strategy. So many different product lines at similar price points. It does not make any sense to me..

HTC always had 'special' devices with Sprint, and sometimes they find their way globally. I guess this is one of them.

 

[massalami]

HTC always had 'special' devices with Sprint, and sometimes they find their way globally. I guess this is one of them.

That's good though.. It's a sign they're slowly getting some market penetration and the device will be promoted by sprint, instead of HTC with their paltry marketing dept. Also, the device will be displayed prominently instead of how it was in Europe and other markets, with barely any htc ten stock and display devices.

 

[Diz]

http://venturebeat.com/2016/10/14/this-is-the-htc-bolt-in-the-wild/

no headphone jack?

it's visible from the back on my 10,

or they moved it due to the position of the led flash

 

[rizevnarastek]

As far as I know it doesn't have one.

Sent from my HTC 10

 

[Captain_Throwback]

no headphone jack?

it's visible from the back on my 10,

or they moved it due to the position of the led flash

USB-C Headphones only.

 

[pradeepvizz]

Reminder for new HTC 10 owners, unleash your beast

can you please link this post on the first page ?

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Reminder for new HTC 10 owners, unleash your beast

can you please link this post on the first page ? makes it easily accessible for the new m10 users

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Reminder for new HTC 10 owners, unleash your beast

can you please link this post on the first page ? makes it easily accessible for the new m10 users

 

[Haldi4803]

I thought the snapdragon 820 worked with 2 regular cores and two low power cores not all 4 at once .

Nah. its 2 LP and 2HP Cores, but they're almost identical. Big cores got more Cache... L2 was it? Little ones clock to 1.6ghz and big cores to 2.2ghz.
There is a Task Sheduler that moves Process from Small to Big cores for burst, and if the phone gets to hot from big to small cores.

 

[lagittaja]

Yes, that's pretty much the only difference that I know of and what has an impact to the performance, besides the clockspeed difference obviously. "Big" Kryo's have 1MB L2 cache while the "little" Kryo's have 512KB.

Then there's of course the different clockspeed binning for the big and little cores, big cores being able to scale much higher in clockspeed and as a result they use lower voltage compared to little cores clock for clock, pretty much across the board.
Which is an interesting point to ponder about and since we now know the specs of SD821 and SD820 Lite it gives some insight into how Qualcomm decided to bin these Kryo's..
The little cores of the SD821 can scale in clockspeed a tad higher (2.19Ghz) than our SD820 big cores (2.15Ghz) can.
That means that the SD821 little cores are humorously more efficient compared to our SD820 little cores which only need to go as high as 1.6Ghz.. Which is sort of significant battery life wise as the little cores are handling a lions share of the tasks.
Best of the best chips will end up in the SD821 big, second best as SD821 little and SD820 big, SD820 and SD820 Lite getting the "junk" Kryo's with the SD820 Lite little cluster Kryo's being the absolute worst..

Interesting thing to note is Apple's A10 Hurricane and Qualcomm's Kryo both hitting 2.34Ghz on their respective FinFET processes. And for example Nvidia's bigger Pascal's only hitting roughly 2.3Ghz on average.
Or Samsung with their Mongoose cores getting that same 2.3Ghz under 3-4 core load, though that increases to 2.6Ghz with 1-2 core load. They're probably pushing some mad voltage to those poor sods to reach that clockspeed, or just furiously nitpicking.

 

[M!tch]

does anybody know if the htc 10 will be daydream ready? i guess no because of its lcd-screen.

 

[anees167]

Even if I set the brightness to 100% it it's still there (aside from killing the battery ) and even if make the screen colder (which i don't want ) .




Yeah I'm gonna give the HTC 10 a third try , it's really unacceptable , I think I'll keep my Nexus 6p if I get a third defective device and wait for maybe the HTC 11 if the price is right , I just want a properly working HTC 10 to be honest , don't feel like paying 700 euros.

I can't help but keep being disappointed on Google , the thing I do the most on my phone is use the browser , but Chrome's performance it's so awful , it lags & stutters , that shouldn't happen on a device with a snapdragon 820 and 4 GBS of ram ....

Gesendet von meinem HTC 10 mit Tapatalk

Try this app, I've Been using for a few days and its basically chrome but optimised for snaodragon phones. Haven't had any issues and its significantly faster

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mokee.yubrowser

 

[lagittaja]

Eh, I'll rather use good old TugaBrowser by our fellow XDA dev vs. some random chinese company claiming their open source yet no sources available on their github..
https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/tugapower.codeaurora.browser

P.S. If anyone grabs TugaBrowser, my recommendation would be to stick with the alpha (54.x) channel, beta (53.x) and stable (52.x) channels just don't have the performance or smoothness of the alpha channel on my HTC 10. Especially noticeable with a bunch of tabs open and switching between the tabs or scrolling in the tab switcher.

 

[King p1n]

FYI HTC 10 does not have PDAF.

while doing research for our recent article on the Sony IMX378 and the Google Pixel, we noticed a piece of misinformation about the IMX377 and HTC 10 that had become fairly widespread. A lot of major websites are referring to the HTC 10 as having PDAF, despite the fact that it doesn’t have it.

Phase Detection Autofocus PDAF Example by cmgleeWe searched through HTC’s marketing materials, and could not find a single instance of HTC claiming that the HTC 10 has PDAF. So, we reached out to Sony and HTC to double check, and we got confirmation that the IMX377 and the HTC 10 do not use PDAF. Instead, the HTC 10 uses a combination of contrast-based autofocus and laser autofocus.

So where did this misinformation come from? It appears that this was initially started by a leak by LlabTooFeR that was mostly correct, but misstated what autofocus system was used to supplement the laser autofocus. We want to highlight that this was a leak, not an official confirmation, and that leaks are always subject to change (LlabTooFeR is still one of the most reliable leakers out there).

Unfortunately, a large part of the tech world has seen this misinformation repeated over and over again, and started to take it as fact, without double checking it. Even I was surprised to hear that my HTC 10 didn’t have PDAF, and while to my knowledge we haven’t made that claim in an official article (as we tend to rely on OEM sheets), I’m sure that I have mentioned it in passing conversation outside of XDA. This demonstrates just how widely a frequently repeated lie can spread, especially if not properly dispelled. Thankfully, very little harm came from this particular situation, aside from a couple funny moments of websites praising the HTC 10 for adding a feature that it doesn’t have, but it still is a sobering reminder about how terrible our minds are at separating fact from rumor.

That being said, it does get us a bit more excited about the Google Pixel and Pixel XL phones, as the HTC 10 and IMX377 saw very good performance through its combination of contrast-based autofocus and laser autofocus, and the IMX378 and Snapdragon 821 should result in further improvements for the Pixel phones thanks to the addition of PDAF and further improvements to the ability to incorporate laser autofocus into a hybrid autofocus system.

http://www.xda-developers.com/fact-...-not-actually-have-phase-detection-autofocus/