HTC Leo = The first decent HTC phone in a long time

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8525Smart

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Disagree with me, if you want, but for a very long time, I found myself with a lack of enthusiasm for HTC's various phones. In-between all the various 'meh' releases, there were some nice phones, but they were always nice for only a few reasons. For example, the Touch HD was nice because it had a large display and supposedly better speakers. The Tough Pro 2 is nice because it's a Touch HD with a keyboard. The HTC Dream was nice because it's the first phone to use something other than Symbian/WinMo/OSX.

Now, however, for the first time in a very long time, an HTC phone came out which I can give more than one or two compliments about. This phone is of course the HTC Leo: http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/14/htc-leo-spotted-in-the-wild-sports-gargantuan-800-x-480-display/

Let me list all of the great things I personally see about the phone:
1) 4.3in WVGA display (that surpasses even the Toshiba TG01)
2) 1Ghz Snapdragon processor; I don't think much of Qualcomm, but an upgrade is an upgrade
3) 320MB RAM
4) Dual LED flash on 8MP camera

My God, those specs are simply awesome, and best of all, it uses my favorite OS: WinMo. More importantly, the specs is perhaps good enough to facilitate an upgrade to WinMo 7 later (at least I dearly hope so). The only thing that could make this phone better is a QWERTY version and a release date not too far off.
 
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mr_Ray

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Resistive or capacitive, not a big deal to me personally. Capacitive is a little better, but resistive is more flexible (gloves & stylus).

That aside, 100% this is the first phone since my Touch Pro to really get me excited, and the first ever non-keyboard WM phone I'll buy. Nice to see an actual device just to prove the doubters wrong (seriously, how the ignored the evidence I don't know). Now we just need to get people to stop referring to it as "Touch Pro 3". It's NOT! Also, for those who haven't noticed, THIS IS NOT A RELEASE DEVICE! You really think HTC will release it as-is with the filler "lorem ipsum" text on the back? Sheesh...

Pretty obvious this device's main job is as a tesbed for WM7, the specs of this and WM7 are almost 100% aligned. HTC might not release the upgrade come the time, but the good folk here cetainly will.
 

8525Smart

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Aqrab

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WOW its a Godzilla
very big device because of the screen

but really killer phone
with the 1024mhz cpu , thats really fast

but its not for me
i like a smaller device

3.6 screen is good for me , touch pro 2 is good but it has a turtle CPU and have a screen gap

im very confused now

i think ill go for samsung omnia 2 or omnia pro
 

8525Smart

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but really killer phone
with the 1024mhz cpu , thats really fast

Unlikely, I don't think the CPU is 1024Mhz. More likely than not, it's probably 990-995Mhz and they round it up.

3.6 screen is good for me , touch pro 2 is good but it has a turtle CPU and have a screen gap

Yes, I don't mind any device so long as it has at least a 3.5in screen. As someone who has been a former user of the HTC Hermes and a current user of the HTC Raphael, I tend to get sick using devices with small screens, and low res.

However, I don't doubt you for thinking of the Omnia II or B7610. I myself was actually planning on buying the B7610.

Does it fit in a regular pocket? Is it still a PocketPC :rolleyes:

My friend, you are speaking to someone who use to pocket devices like the HP Jornada 548, Palm TX, Ti-85 calculator, and many, many other similar objects. The HTC Leo will not be a problem.
 
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scote

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Isn't multi touch a requirement or goal of wm7?
In any case LEO is attractive to me due to the large screen, my eyes arent as good as they used to be and snapdragon should make it zippy
 

11sec_lx

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Is it safe to assume that there is no release date or even any info on what carrier(s) may get it? Sorry for the newbie type question.
 

Zzim

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Way too big for a phone the TP2 is pushing it a bit and this size crosses the line for alot of people.
 

lude219

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Way too big for a phone the TP2 is pushing it a bit and this size crosses the line for alot of people.

So a fraction of a millimeter more in size is considered crossing the line now? Maybe if you balls weren't in a vice grip from wearing those skinny jeans, you may find that they will fit in a pants/shirt pocket just fine.

Crossing the line would be the same group of people who ***** about every slim phones for not having a QWERTY keyboard or running on androids.

Please dont soil this masterpiece of a beast with your trite.
 

PoisonWolf

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So a fraction of a millimeter more in size is considered crossing the line now? Maybe if you balls weren't in a vice grip from wearing those skinny jeans, you may find that they will fit in a pants/shirt pocket just fine.

Crossing the line would be the same group of people who ***** about every slim phones for not having a QWERTY keyboard or running on androids.

Please dont soil this masterpiece of a beast with your trite.

Hey Lude,

Why don't you put on some lube and calm your cojones? He had an opinion, and that was it.

This phone is simply just way too big, I'd have to agree. The specs are beastly on this thing, and I personally think even 3.8" on the Touch HD was the ideally perfect size. I have no idea why they'd even want a 4.3".

And personally, unless if this thing is packing a 1850 mAH battery on it, I wouldn't even bother with the phone. 4.3" and a 1Ghz processor + 3G or 4G or what have you. You do the math on how fast before this thing dies in your hand midway through the day. This is assuming that they're using the same old type of LCD-displays that are present in the TouchHD and not some new revolutionary giga-low-powered-screen.

It looks very good on paper, but I'm fairly confident that this phone is going to only attend to a market that is only a fraction of what the TouchHD is focused on now.

Cheers.
 

Limlin

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It looks nice. And is it the HTC Touch Pro 3? HTC Leo runs on a 1GHz Snapdragon processor?
 

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    Official HTC Leo Specs:​
    (Exclusively on xda-developers)​

    Anxiety is over guys.As you all may see below i think it was about time, rumors to be broken and jailbreaked @ last, not to mention, that loads were been circulating pointlessly, so things finally, had to placed in an nice order and get finalized, for you out there to know and stop questioning “whether this, whether that”. I know that for sure, the below Original Leo’s Specs will leak throughout the net in lighting speed, as it is clear as far as I saw all these days that I am with u, whenever something is posted, is spread out to other forums, blogs and so on. Let it be so. But you be the FIRST to know what others will read the same, taken from here, or may still be waitting for... ;)

    Among all these rumors, most of them, were based on the existence or not of the Digital Compass and some claimed that it should have been hidden somewhere, somehow, though others supporting the idea by saying that they own final official Leo’s ROM’s that it does support. U’ll clearly see below, that through the Value Added Applications, the support of CLL.dll library, explains everything by itself, so yes, Digital Compass is there, as tested on my own, but I must say that it was part of my secrecy which now, I can’t keep it any longer ;) Along with DC, its the screen chassis to fully support future WM7. So expect the best and do not question urselves any longer about those. Lastly, it needs to be mentioned, that though a pic was posted, some posts ago regarding FM Radio existence. That indeed, is fully included, BUT user can find it on Start-Tools-FM Radio and not as it was shown on that image.


    Features

    Platform
    Ultra slim bar type touch phone / Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional

    Processor/Chipset
    Qualcomm MSM 8250, 1GHz

    Memory / Internal Storage
    ROM: 512 MB / RAM: 320 MB / HD: 207.13MB

    Display Module
    4.3-inch 480x800 WVGA resolution / 65K-color / Sensitive touch screen (Capacitive) / Keep support Multi-Touch capability for WM7 Chassis
    HSPA/UMTS/EDGE/GPRS/GSM Function

    Internal antenna
    HSPA/UMTS 2100/900 MHz and GSM/GPRS/EDGE
    Quad-band (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) / HSDPA / 3GPP Release 5 compliant
    Up to 7.2Mbps / HSUPA / 3GPP release 6 compliant / UE category 5, up to 2 Mbps peak rate / EGPRS Functionality / EGPRS class B / Multi-slot class 12 (10 Operator dependent) / PBCCH

    Standalone GPS
    Internal GPS antenna

    Sensors
    Motion G-sensor / Proximity sensor / Ambient Light Sensor / FM Radio

    Digital Camera
    Main camera: 5 MP Color CMOS with auto focus / 2x LED flash

    Key/Button/Switch
    Volume up and down control / Send Key / End Key (Power Key) / Windows Key / Home Key / (Cinema mode Key, TBD) / Back Key / Reset

    Notification
    Notification by sound, vibration, LEDs or status shown on the display
    One dual colors (Green and Amber) LED in the left / lens for PDA event, battery and charging / status

    Audio
    Built-in microphone / Receiver / Loud speaker with hands-free support

    Connectivity & Interface
    Bluetooth / Version 2.1 compliant with EDR / Wi-Fi / IEEE 802.11 b/g compliant / Micro-USB: / USB 2.0 High-Speed client / 3.5 mm stereo audio jack with mic / 1.8/3V USIM/SIM card slot / microSD card slot with SDHC support

    Power
    Battery / Removable and chargeable battery, 1,230 mAh / AC adaptor / AC input: 100 ~ 240V AC, 50/60 Hz / DC output: 5V and 1A

    Accessories (In-Box)
    Quick Start Guide [Inbox] / Travel Charger, TC P300 [Inbox] / USB Sync Cable (Micro-USB to Standard USB) [Inbox] / Battery [Inbox] / Wired stereo headset with 3.5mm audio connector, HS G335 [Inbox] / Premium pouch (Carrying Case) [Inbox] / Car Charger [optional] /Car Holder with
    battery cover [optional]

    Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional Applications
    Microsoft Outlook Mobile / Messaging (SMS/E-mail), Contacts, Calendar,Tasks, Email Set Up Wizard / Microsoft Internet Explorer Mobile / Microsoft Media Player Mobile / Microsoft ActiveSync / Microsoft Windows Mobile Update / Internet Sharing / Pictures & Videos / Games / MSFT Zip
    File Explorer / Device Management / Security Enhancement / Microsoft Office Mobile / Microsoft Windows Live! / Microsoft Smart Dial / Microsoft Remote Desktop Mobile

    Value-Added Applications
    Windows Mobile Enhancements / Pictures & Videos enhancements / Ring Tone enhancements Telephony (HTC) Phone Canvas(HTC) Phone Experience Multimedia / (HTC) Camera Album / MP3 Trimmer / Streaming Media Player / FM Radio / Presentation mode / Web / Push Internet / RSS HUB / YouTube Client Social Networking / Input Method EZ-INPUT / Messaging SMS/MMS Client / GPS/LBS Navigation (CoPilot, Papago) / Google Maps / Quick GPS / Support CLL.dll library for indoor positioning andreverse geo-coding / Navi-panel / Calendar to Navi / User Interface (Enhanced Manila) / TouchFLO Footprints / Auto Screen Rotation /

    Tools & Utilities
    HTC Common Sense / 3G to WiFi router / Task Manager / Text selection (HTC) Connection Setup / OOBE / Voice Recorder / Document Viewer / PDF / OMA DRM Engine / Java virtual machine / Long Press / End Key Confirmation (to shut down) / STK SIM manager / (HTC) Volume Control / Business Card Reader / Document Printing / Magnifier.



    More Photos:

    Finally, this post is concluded with some today’s (3/10/09) taken photos, with Leo's back being uncovered and battery being removed, indicating with red arrows in some of them, where microSD and/or USIM is inserted, where, soft-reset button is, where led-indicating/notifications lights are placed (front images) and in 360 format where all Leo’s button exist. Its clearly shown, there is an absence of push-camera button, so no more questions about it whatsoever;) Just for the non-belivers and for the rest to know, all IMEI, S/N numbers have all the way through been fuzed by me for security reasons, so don’t put urselves into crazy thoughts where the hell all these numbers gone ;) Once more I wanna thank all of you of reading this detailed post, ask for admins forgiveness and I truly hope from now and on, u have the best overview of the device that as it seems most of u expect for such long. Well…no more!! My best regards to all of you and still I will remain at forum’s disposal and to all of you for anything else may have left to ask! Till then…keep it low and slow, stay out of troubles…and for some of u…have finally a normal-non-posting lame life!!


    Taking Leo's back off

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    Dual Cam's Led flash
    (bottom arrow) & Loudspeaker (upper arrow)

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    microSD with SDHC support card slot

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    SIM / USIM card slot

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    Dual colored (Green and Amber) Notification LED (right arrow) & Dual Proximity Sensors (left arrow)

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    microUSB charger/USB host Input (right arrow) & 3.5 mm Stereo Audio Jack with mic (left arrow)

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