Htc Titan x310e Grip of Death

sutt359

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Hi guys

I got my Titan yesterday but only managed to have a play today.

Ive noticed mine suffers badly from the grip of death just holding the dam thing.

Am i the only one with this problem?
 

hboos

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HAHA reminds of me Apple's response to the grip of death on the iPhone 4.

There is no grip of death... uh.. you are holding it wrong.. actually all phones do it if you hold it in a weird way.. eh.. here have a free bumper. all without an apology.

Unlucky dude.

hoping it's just an issue with your particular handset rather than the whole batch.

will you put up a review of the titan soon?
 

sutt359

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Ive tested the device with a Tmobile sim, i get the same results but no as bad as Vodafone UK.

On Vodafone it goes from H 3 bars down to G 1 bar.

On Tmobile it start off with the full 5 then drops down to 1 to 3 bars on H.

I will made a vid when i have time and post it up.

As im still waiting on my ebay case to turn up, i dont know if this will resolve the problem.

I will be contacting HTC tomorrow, to see what they have to say.
 

N8ter

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Attenuation? Yes. All of HTC's phones suffer quite a bit from it.

Nothing new to see here. Anyone who keeps up with this forum knows that HTC phones have terrible Attenuation and their phones tend to get weaker cell signal on the same carrier even compared to other phones that use similar or identical internals (as WP7 launch devices did - try an HD7S and a Focus, the Focus is stronger).

Motorola > Nokia > RIM > Samsung > * > * > HTC for good cell signal quality and strength.

I'm almost convinced it must be something to do with how they design their devices.
 

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Mine isn't so bad. I just received it yesterday and while the radio on it doesn't beat out the focus it works well. I'm not too impressed with the supposedly infinitely better battery life though...
 

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Ive tested the device with a Tmobile sim, i get the same results but no as bad as Vodafone UK.

On Vodafone it goes from H 3 bars down to G 1 bar.

On Tmobile it start off with the full 5 then drops down to 1 to 3 bars on H.

I will made a vid when i have time and post it up.

As im still waiting on my ebay case to turn up, i dont know if this will resolve the problem.

I will be contacting HTC tomorrow, to see what they have to say.
They will say the same thing they said when they got called out during "Antennagate."

http://www.gsmarena.com/antennagate_2_htc_responds_to_the_hd7_antenna_death_grip-news-2117.php

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Mine isn't so bad. I just received it yesterday and while the radio on it doesn't beat out the focus it works well. I'm not too impressed with the supposedly infinitely better battery life though...
The issue is two-fold:

HTC phones even with equivalent Radios (which is in the SoC, BTW), have worse signal quality than phones for other manufacturers.

HTC phones suffered from Death Grip issues with the same internals when other OEMs' phones did not.

The HD7/Focus is just one example. It happens a lot in their Android phones. The HD2 had Death Grip/Weak Signal issues, as well.

It has something to do with how they design their antennas, and they don't seem to be taking a hint and trying to remedy the issue.

The bigger the phone is, the more of an issue is becomes becaue the more of your hand you have to use to reliably hold the device while talking.

Also, in low-coverage areas dropping 2-3 bars can be the difference between talking on the phone, and dropping a call. It affects data speeds a lot, as well.

As for the battery, every OEM claims infinitely better battery life just cause they added a few hundred mAh to the battery size. They just forget to mention that the increase in other specs and hardware pretty much cancels that out :p
 
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Ineedtoys

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Don't most phone do this to some extent, not just HTC? The DVP has it too. Even the humble Nokia E71 has to held upside down to get the best signal. The DVP is worse as it starts off with a weak radio generally even before you start to attenuate signals with your hand.
 

iosub

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Posible fix

Hi guys

I got my Titan yesterday but only managed to have a play today.

Ive noticed mine suffers badly from the grip of death just holding the dam thing.

Am i the only one with this problem?
Hi, I was having the same issue.. and I founded the solution. The problem is with the litle contacts that have the case.. check the picture and check if all of them make the right contact.. On my phone one of the litle metal was not doing the right contact (it was down) I move it a litle up..
With this litle fix I get the reception from 2bars to 5 bars on the same place :)


Hope this helps


Iosu
 

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Strike_Eagle

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i believe all most all HTC put the attena on the low-back part. Just don't put your hand all over it and you are fine.
Iphone 4 problem happen usually because our fingers usually place right on their spot when calling.
 

adesonic

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I have absolutely no problem with mine, reception similar if not slightly better than my hd7

Sent from my htc titan using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
 

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50% calls - other party can't hear me but I can clearly hear them.
It may be related to this or other software/hardware failure.

How come they don't test these devices?
 

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Im almost starting to think I've been lucky with my handset.
I have none of the problems that have been posted on this forum, nor do I have this "grip of death".

Sorry to hear about all the problems, but I absolutely love my phone. The only quarrel I have is the lack of syncing of multiple google calendars and the inability of turning off autorotation.
 

iosub

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Im almost starting to think I've been lucky with my handset.
I have none of the problems that have been posted on this forum, nor do I have this "grip of death".

Sorry to hear about all the problems, but I absolutely love my phone. The only quarrel I have is the lack of syncing of multiple google calendars and the inability of turning off autorotation.
can you go to system info and post the firmware version ?

Thanks

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50% calls - other party can't hear me but I can clearly hear them.
It may be related to this or other software/hardware failure.

How come they don't test these devices?
I have the same problem
My solution is to reboot the phone.. I have another two days without issues..

There is a new firmware for Europe version 1.09.. What version of firmware do you have ?

my current version is
Eternity Europe 1.08.401.06
Model: TITAN X310e
Software: Windows Phone 7.5

OS version: 7.10.7720.68
Firmware revision number: 1600.2200.10806.401
Radio software version: 16.23.02.09_2_16.24.00.23U
Bootloader version: 1.8.160015.3
 

rdy2go

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can you go to system info and post the firmware version ?

Thanks

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I have the same problem
My solution is to reboot the phone.. I have another two days without issues..

There is a new firmware for Europe version 1.09.. What version of firmware do you have ?

my current version is
Eternity Europe 1.08.401.06
Model: TITAN X310e
Software: Windows Phone 7.5

OS version: 7.10.7720.68
Firmware revision number: 1600.2200.10806.401
Radio software version: 16.23.02.09_2_16.24.00.23U
Bootloader version: 1.8.160015.3
I've got the latest version (1.09).

50% of calls (more or less) are "listen-only" (LOL but it's not funny at all @ this price level), reboot doesn't help - some calls are OK, some calls are not; in the same area (office, home) -- my SGS2 works flawlessly, very strong HSDPA signal (maximum strength)
It's random issue, probably hard to detect and fix, I'm so frustrated...
 

avelon

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can you go to system info and post the firmware version ?

Thanks

---------- Post added at 11:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:28 AM ----------


I have the same problem
My solution is to reboot the phone.. I have another two days without issues..

There is a new firmware for Europe version 1.09.. What version of firmware do you have ?

my current version is
Eternity Europe 1.08.401.06
Model: TITAN X310e
Software: Windows Phone 7.5

OS version: 7.10.7720.68
Firmware revision number: 1600.2200.10806.401
Radio software version: 16.23.02.09_2_16.24.00.23U
Bootloader version: 1.8.160015.3
I have the exact same version as you mate.. I have not experienced any dropped calls or that the other cannot hear me.
Sorry to hear this..
 
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