HTC U11: Can I do S-Off/S-On on demand?

[AllGamer]

Last time I had an HTC phone was before they introduced the S-Off / S-ON.

So, I already got TWRP installed

Working great, LTE/4G is good, I made stock backup for everything.

Planning to install the Bad Boy ROM

but can't find anything about how to set S-Off / S-ON.

I was trying to install BusyBox, Titanium Backup, Adaway, and many other Apps which requires root, all of which won't work properly because it's S-On? so I want to switch to S-Off, make the install changes, then switch it back to S-On?

Because as I understand it, when it's S-Off many Apps and even LTE/4G might not work because it needs to be in S-On ?

--- EDIT ---

in download mode it shows:

htc_ocnwhl PVT S-ON

 

[schmeggy929]

S-off is not available yet, but hopefully it will be. If you install Badboyz ROM you will have a choice of Superuser or Magisk for root. Those apps should be able to work once you obtain root, nothing to do with S-off/S-on. S-off is mainly for flashing unsigned firmware. In all the HTC phones I have had, never once did I lose 4G/LTE when obtaining S-off.

 

[AllGamer]

BusyBox says it cannot write to system.

Same with Adaway, it's even a Known issue they have listed in the Help pages, that S-Off is needed to be able to modify the HOST file, when it's S-On it cannot write to it.

Hopefully we can get S-Off working on this phone, really liking this U11 so far. :good:

 

[5m4r7ph0n36uru]

As far as I know there is a thread about systemless AdAway if running stock rooted with Magisk. Not sure though.

Sent from my htc_ocnuhl using XDA Labs

 

[mattman83]

If it's anything like recent htc phones the stock kernel also write protects /system even when rooted. Custom kernel should fix your issues.

 

[AllGamer]

If it's anything like recent htc phones the stock kernel also write protects /system even when rooted. Custom kernel should fix your issues.

I'll try that :good:

Yes, a lot of Apps that I use that needs to write to System, heck even I myself want to replace and remove stuff from system, like all those Google Stuff.

Anyway yeah, I can't write to System partition with the stock kernel it seems.

Which of the currently released custom kernels allows to write to System?

... time to check the Dev section to see what's available :laugh:

 

[AllGamer]

server hiccup duplicated

 

[hgoldner]

... time to check the Dev section to see what's available :laugh:

Maybe that would have been a better idea: (1) BEFORE you did everything you did to your U11 and (2) BEFORE you started this thread.

There are lots of resources here on XDA. It seems a great number of people are just doing things to their handsets before they read up on the complications and consequences, then asking questions afterwards. (One other poster on the forum actually unlocked, flashed an alternate recovery and ROM, without making any Nandroids or backups of stock, and only THEN tried his SIM in the device, only to find that it didn't work and he has no way back now. Permission to smack the moron?)

If you have $649 to throw away, great. Otherwise, let's be careful out there and take a little more time to study before we bork our phones.

And, oh, XDA has a GREAT search function, too!

 

[AllGamer]

Seems like Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 might do the trick.

Optionally I could go with LeeDrOiD ROM, but it's based on Europe version of the stock image.

Not sure if that will affect the Radio for the American models.

 

[fr0st420]

Seems like Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 might do the trick.

Optionally I could go with LeeDrOiD ROM, but it's based on Europe version of the stock image.

Not sure if that will affect the Radio for the American models.

LeeDrOiD is safe. I flashed European version of roms all the time.

 

[jmkhenka]

Yeah s-off is only needed if you want to change base firmware (radio, bootloader etc). Most usefull for downgrading the firmware.
Also S-off lets you reset the phone to LOCKED without the RELOCKED normal htcdev unlock allows for.

 

[Pneuma1985]

Seems like Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 might do the trick.

Optionally I could go with LeeDrOiD ROM, but it's based on Europe version of the stock image.

Not sure if that will affect the Radio for the American models.

I am running LeeDrOiD on sprint USDA and its working perfectly!!!!

Seems like Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 might do the trick.

Oh and do you have the dl url for Kirisakura-OCEAN-0.2 for kali? or any variation of linux I'll make it work!!! >>>>>?

I will hack it if given the tool!

 

[EtherealRemnant]

Also S-off lets you reset the phone to LOCKED without the RELOCKED normal htcdev unlock allows for.

Not on the U11 with its temp S-OFF shenanigans. The XTC2Clip can gain temp S-OFF on the U11 (needs a new 50 dollar adapter) but so far there is no way to set the bootloader back to locked status, it's relock only. HTC needs to release a bootloader that supports S-OFF - either through a leak or a legitimate firmware update - or S-OFF is going to be out of reach for all practical purposes for awhile. Temp S-OFF is a huge liability. Screw up one thing while you're in that state, as soon as the phone goes back to S-ON at the next boot, you've got a brick.

 

[christiebunny]

semi-noob here, and slightly confused... The past phones I've flashed, seemed to equate "S-OFF" to "able to remount /system as RW'..... S-ON/OFF is unrelated to /system remounting, having root access/root shell, etc?