Huawei lost access to Google tech. What now?

[Fernix_]

So, you probably have heard that Huawei is banned from Android or something along those lines. What does this mean for our device, you ask? We might actually be the ones who are less affected by all this, since we are "only" losing future updates (security patches might be affected). The p30 line is in this situation too, but all future devices are really screwed, since Huawei lost access to the Google Play Store and other aspects of collaboration between Google and OEMs. Going forward Huawei can only use the AOSP code, and nothing more (AOSP is really barebones compared to what OEMs get).
I started this thread as a hub of discussion and opinions on this event, so feel free to share your opinions, questions or concerns below.

Edit, direct quote from Reuters:



"Huawei will only be able to use the public version of Android and will not be able to get access to proprietary apps and services from Google," the source said.

Mod edit - Keep political discussion away from XDA. Thank you

 

[Fernix_]

To start, I'm worried that support for our phones is over. Unless they restart the bootloader unlocking code program, we are **** out of luck when it comes to manual updating, since Funky Huawei does not have codes either.

 

[mikey_sk]

Lol maybe this will kick start them to unlock their bootloaders and provide full source code and drivers so it will work with any custom rom and open Gapps.

Unlikely but imagine how fun that would be :=

 

[Fernix_]

Lol maybe this will kick start them to unlock their bootloaders and provide full source code and drivers so it will work with any custom rom and open Gapps.

Unlikely but imagine how fun that would be :=

I envision about 4 scenarios, for meh to throw the phone in the garbage. Scenario one is no more updates, bootloader unlocks. Two is no updates nor bootloader unlocks. 3 is a rework of emui. 4. Is revoking Google play certification, plus the new emui doesn't have any app compatibility

 

[Fernix_]

I envision about 4 scenarios, for meh to throw the phone in the garbage. Scenario one is no more updates, bootloader unlocks. Two is no updates nor bootloader unlocks. 3 is a rework of emui. 4. Is revoking Google play certification, plus the new emui doesn't have any app compatibility

Also drivers and kernel sources would be an absolute godsend, although we have openkirin

 

[pogi.paul0119]

**** trumpet..lol. so we are left with only 2 choices? Samsung and Apple.. I can imagine trumpet will be eyeing next on other Chinese manufacturers too.

 

[demon2112]

So, you probably have heard that Huawei is banned from Android or something along those lines. What does this mean for our device, you ask? We might actually be the ones who are less affected by all this, since we are "only" losing future updates (security patches might be affected). The p30 line is in this situation too, but all future devices are really screwed, since Huawei lost access to the Google Play Store and other aspects of collaboration between Google and OEMs. Going forward Huawei can only use the AOSP code, and nothing more (AOSP is really barebones compared to what OEMs get).
I started this thread as a hub of discussion and opinions on this event, so feel free to share your opinions, questions or concerns below.

source plz

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source plz

anddd yeahhh aosp plzz haha

 

[TerrorToetje]

source plz

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anddd yeahhh aosp plzz haha

Tweakers.net ?

 

[Fernix_]

source plz

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anddd yeahhh aosp plzz haha

Added a quote from Reuters (https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1SP0NB?__twitter_impression=true)

 

[Fernix_]

source plz

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anddd yeahhh aosp plzz haha

What it means by AOSP is that Huawei only has access to that code. It does not mean that we will be getting stock android at all (plus AOSP is really really barebones)

 

[dimon222]

Alternative path that Huawei may choose - https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/14/18265646/huawei-operating-systems-android-windows-ban
We will end up with non-android basically

 

[cacingbesar]

I'm more curious about the china retaliation on this....
regarding our current phone, I think huawei will re-open bootloader unlock program to ignite the development.

 

[kaibosh99]

Gee, when I mentioned that this was a worry a few months ago, I was lambasted and called a 'Trump supporter' (???!??!?!).

 

[pogi.paul0119]

Who will fire the first missile?

 

[sunu792002]

source plz

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anddd yeahhh aosp plzz haha

https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-loses-access-to-google-android-987873/amp/

 

[Quazza]

Sooooo would something like this be enough to get out of a contract ?

Surely ...

 

[catshanghai]

Loss of access to Google services and security updates will only apply to future devices. Current devices will be supported so we do not have expensive bricks.

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/h...google-pulls-access-to-core-apps-and-services

I know Huawei play fast and loose with security processes but this is the battlefront of the US-China trade war. Huawei is one of the largest global players and I'm sure there will be a compromise once grown ups are in charge again at the White House!

 

[hyborian]

Loss of access to Google services and security updates will only apply to future devices. Current devices will be supported so we do not have expensive bricks.

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/h...google-pulls-access-to-core-apps-and-services

I know Huawei play fast and loose with security processes but this is the battlefront of the US-China trade war. Huawei is one of the largest global players and I'm sure there will be a compromise once grown ups are in charge again at the White House!

Well, I won't be considering Huawei anymore though. I inherited my Huawei Mate 10 from my kid, and it's a good phone. Being unrooted, I use it for apps with payments.

Time to prepare to change it one of these days, waiting for Xiaomi's Poco f2 to supplement my f1. Still Chinese but I think they are in a different world from Huawei where Huawei is more than just phones or consumer products, definitely can raise concerns about a country's security.

Google can also be used by the USA to spy on other countries too lol. Anyway, China was first, they banned Google stuff, Facebook, Whatsapp, etc.

 

[Biggenz]

F*ck the US and Google. The US government thought it necessary to go to this extreme because Huawei is affiliated with the Chinese government. A bit rich when Google has been ordered to do this by the US government. How the irony is lost on them.

Now I will make sure to just buy Huawei phones in the future. I'd actually prefer if my phone was rid of Google. They've stolen enough of everyone's data illegally.

 

[szilveszter21]

Well, I am not supprised, and made a big mistake buying a huawei mate 20 pro device. As soon Huawei keep doing things, what market leaders decide.... First complaining, now revocating everything, next step will be forcing / and destroy the remaining reputation. This is clear world decline that China is roadbreaker in innovation. Huawei also not helping in this. Smart phones are quiet small deal to Huawei , but they are loading in the 5G bacbone network devices, I think a lot of company under a pressure to cancel the contract with them. We know maybe there is no true in the whole story or a very little. I understand that business what Huawei doing is a western-like business model, similar what apple do in USA... But they are in China, USA still has really powerful hands to manipulate the market, so if Huawei not proving that they can be trusted, with opensource softwares , fully documented opensource hardwares/softwares, then it is a bad time for them. Rebranding and custom roms was "just for yourself" now it will be must to deploy some other firmware on your phone...

I completely lost with huawei reaction like a 2 year old kid, getting complaining then got angry and refuse negotiation, if they happen, I assume goverments will force to remove all huawei contract, if the pressure is enough high, maybe there will be some investment as well to/from nokia siemens , ericson or other big network device manufacture. Huawei wanted to build a Western like brand in China, that is a total failure. They don't need that anyway, just create the hardware sell it and do not care about software apart from the operations system drivers.

Why a logo on the phone not enough? Why they are not stepping forward last year to being more transpanent to the western world... Showing to the west, that China is overcoming create dislike in big western companies, and every exposed weak spots will be attacket. Huawei could have changed/improve the partnership, with going to negotiation providing better communication, open source apps, blueprints , whatever they want from them. But the reaction, they enclosed theirself in their castle preparing for the siege. BAD STRATEGY.

Yes not fair, if another company doing the same way like apple do, it is not threated as risk, as "west it the best" but the general trust problem with Chinese goverment and the type of the goverment can not expect the same conditions as a trusted western company... So they go into negotiation or will drastically reduce the prices and replicate apps in their store, that will not work at all....