I don't believe there is a flawless Nexus out there

Switchbitch

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I think whether your Nexus is flawless or not depends on whether you're noticing the faults. If the faults aren't noticeable to you then that's as good as them not being there but I believe they are still there.

I'm on my 5th Nexus and it has 9 hot pixels. They're tiny, so you wouldn't notice them if you weren't keen-eyed but they're there. Most people probably would not notice them. That's 3 out of 5 so far with pixel problems.

All units I've had so far have had a problem on the left side of the device. Either the back cover doesn't sit quite right in the middle left area, or the screen is lifting. I don't think it's possible to have neither of these issues because of the way the thing is built. Have a real good look down the left side, is the rim slightly warped inwards anywhere? Is the back cover sitting with a tiny gap between it and the rim anywhere? Does the back cover stick out by a hair's width from the rim anywhere? Is the screen lifting ever so slightly anywhere? I bet at least one of these is true. Again, you may not notice minor screen lift or the back cover sitting with a slight gap but the fault is still there. It's just designed badly and if you don't have a screen lift issue, I'm sure you will eventually.

Every unit I've owned has had backlight bleed. Some obvious, some less so.

I think LCD problems such as backlight bleed and hot or dead pixels are widespread. I think the screen lift/left side design problem involves every single unit.

These are just faults that are minor and to be honest, may not bother or even be visible to most users. But they do mean the level of QC is far far lower than most other manufacturers. People make the argument that the Nexus is cheap, so "what do you expect?", but this is beside the point.

I will never buy another Asus product, ever.
 

oona rezo

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Shame you're so unlucky. Honestly, I'm mind-numbingly picky about my gear but my GN7 has none of the faults you list.

The fact is, the overwhelming majority of happy users will not post one single review stating as such. People with problems complain. Only complaints get heard.

Over the years I've had loads of Asus tech; every last thing is/was top notch.

I do hope you have better luck with future purchases :)

Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
 

PhilipL

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Shame you're so unlucky. Honestly, I'm mind-numbingly picky about my gear but my GN7 has none of the faults you list.

The fact is, the overwhelming majority of happy users will not post one single review stating as such. People with problems complain. Only complaints get heard.

Over the years I've had loads of Asus tech; every last thing is/was top notch.

I do hope you have better luck with future purchases :)

Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Completely happy here as well, no problems.

There seems to be too many people wanting absolute perfection out of a mass produced cheap as chips device, and they do all they can to find the tiniest of flaws.

Dead pixels are obvious, so you would notice them immediately and quite entitled to take it back, however I'm wondering if what the OP is seeing are tiny tiny flaws in the filters which are only visible when viewing a black screen on maximum brightness in the dark. All LCDs will show something like this if you look hard enough. You couldn't use it like this without burning your eyes out so in everyday use, it simply isn't noticable and isn't a flaw, it is just a limitation of the technology. Same goes for back light bleed, all LCD panels have it to some extend, and looking for it in the dark at maximum brightness is sure to find it, but again would you use the tablet at such settings.

News alert: We do not have perfect display technologies yet, they all have flaws or cons, especially if you look for them. I paid £1500 for a 15" LCD panel not that long ago, that had more flaws anyone is complaining about now but had advantages over and above CRT at the time you just accepted them as part of the technology and enjoy the advantages.

I read all the same complaints about my HTC One X and almost didn't buy it, but so glad I did and zero problems. I came in here and read about all the issues with the Nexus 7 and almost didn't buy it, but remembered reading all the doom and gloom and about the One X, so bought it and absolutely love it.

Yes devices will have real faults or problems, and complain and get it exchanged by all means, I would, but around XDA they seem to go further than broken devices into complaints about microns of differences. Who cares about a hairs width if the device is working perfectly! Every forum in XDA is the same.

Regards

Phil
 
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angellsl

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My first is good enough for me after numerous stress tests. Sorry for you.
Btw, I'm not that picky about it anyway.
 
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I think that also one of the problems is just human - that we hold these devices rather than set them down - and thus our fingers are always sensing microns of differences as we shift our fingers around. 3/1000ths edge or mating error in my laptop (as I type on my actual lap) is nothing - on my tablet a constant reminder this is a cheap device!
I do think pixels could easily be checked in process, and weighted for defect before shipping. Any in constant view - like center 80% - are unacceptable. Perimeter edge pixels not so much...
 

eager27

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It's your bad luck, I'm sorry to say.

I'm on unit 3 which has zero screen-lift, zero dead pixels, zero problematic light bleed (eg no flare that affects visible colour density), zero problems with back cover seating. Which is also my good luck.

I've said before on this forum, there are clearly WAY too many QA issues on these tablets, and I have been advising friends and family to stay clear of them until the issues are sorted, but this does not mean that ALL units are defective - as a read around the various threads here will reveal.
 

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If you can't be happy after 5 units you need to buy something else.I would never keep buying the same thing after the second was not up to par with my expectations.

Anyone having trouble after having the first one replaced is just a glutton for punishment or looking something to whine about. ;) They make ipads every day.:laugh:
 
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I'm now on my fourth Nexus, had two C60 or C70 that had screen lift and stuck pixels along with some backlight bleed. Picked up a C80K which had a small amount of screen lift and really bad backlight bleed along the bottom of the screen, which was really irritating when watching a video in low light. Took that back for another C80K which has a very small screen lift and a faint backlight bleed, I don't know whether I'm just being picky or not but so far I'm OK with this one.
 

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Got one and that had a washed out screen and image retention. Ridiculous how they can have so many devices out there with flaws.
 

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Screen lift on left side as well.Have insurance with whom I bought it at. Waiting for a few months to see if these issues get worked out before I go and exchange it. Not that big of a deal to me, but it is there none the less.
 

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Just fix the damn thing yourself and enjoy it.

My first one was flawless until I killed it screwing with the bootloader. Second one had screen lift that I fixed using washers. The official Asus fix is leaving the screws out. I'm pretty sure I'd rather spend 30seconds doing that myself then deal with your nonsense aggregation.

Yes there is a design flaw with the screen. Most will have this. Going through 9 is retarded. You should just stop your wasting everyone's time (Your and Asus).

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My first one I got had no problems. As for my second one... Oh wait there wasn't a second one I'm still using the first one over a month later

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I agree with the op. I've gone through several. All of which with the same screen lift. However I plan to fix it myself rather than complain about a product. Nothing beats this tablet in its price range and form factor. So I'm just gunna deal with what I got.

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BrianDigital

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My first one had screen lift, did an RMA to Google, second unit perfect no problems.

I cant speak for people reporting sending 20 plus units back to google and still having issues. But I do believe the people buying from retail locations seeing a screen lift and returning it again and expecting not to see screen lift, when most likely it was being swapped from the same shipment their defective product came in on. Probably should just get the RMA process through google a shot
 

Kueber

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Well, my C90 seems pretty flawless.. hope I won't find any problems. As far as I tested it, there are none of the known issues.
 

hashibahoohaa

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The fact is, the overwhelming majority of happy users will not post one single review stating as such. People with problems complain. Only complaints get heard.
Agreed... But the number of folks having issues and having raised them is now sizable. Check the XDA polls, over 700+ folks having reported various defects as documented in multiple threads, some of the defects are unbelievable if one thinks about manufacturing standards or QC, or just the design. I know in terms of percentage it still may be very less folks with issues, but just the type of issues reported is scary enough. I see similar posts in other ASUS forums and the reason I postponed on Prime as well.

I hoped that ASUS/GOOG would at least own up and make a statement that they have manufacturing defects, seeing users of these new tablets trying to fix these issues themselves or just living with it is pathetic imho...:rolleyes: