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I need a definitive answer: Does TWRP work on Android 11? If not, what is a good alternative?

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Tom Dude

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As the title says. I've seen some older posts from 2019 about it not working, and need to know its status as of right now. I checked their website, and it provides a guide for this specific model, but it doesn't work. What else can I use?
 

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As the title says. I've seen some older posts from 2019 about it not working, and need to know its status as of right now. I checked their website, and it provides a guide for this specific model, but it doesn't work. What else can I use?

According to the TWRP website their latest release 3.5 does work on Android 10 and they are working to get it usable on Android 11
 

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Unfortunately our device tree is outdated; there is no android 10 branch let alone 11. The latest release for our device is for those still on android 9, as denoted by TeamWin's new naming convention. If a new branch for 10 and/or 11 can be added to Github, maybe we'll see a build that works for those that have moved on from pie.

 

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Unfortunately our device tree is outdated; there is no android 10 branch let alone 11. The latest release for our device is for those still on android 9, as denoted by TeamWin's new naming convention. If a new branch for 10 and/or 11 can be added to Github, maybe we'll see a build that works for those that have moved on from pie.

so what does this mean?
i just got a brand new 3a XL
i updated it to 11 and now the phone has so many issues that it is not even useable for me anymore, i need to go back to 9 or flash a custom ROM
so can i downgrade it to pie or dirty flash a stock pie rom and then install TWRP on it and flash a custom rom?
or am i now stuck on a 11 with no way to flash to an older stock rom or custom rom or install TWRP?
also if you install TWRP on 9 then i assume you can still flash a stock 10 or 11 rom and revert back to 9 right
 

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so what does this mean?
i just got a brand new 3a XL
i updated it to 11 and now the phone has so many issues that it is not even useable for me anymore, i need to go back to 9 or flash a custom ROM
so can i downgrade it to pie or dirty flash a stock pie rom and then install TWRP on it and flash a custom rom?
or am i now stuck on a 11 with no way to flash to an older stock rom or custom rom or install TWRP?
also if you install TWRP on 9 then i assume you can still flash a stock 10 or 11 rom and revert back to 9 right
 
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gdroid666

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i see you quoted my post but it is blank
also i am having major problems navigating this new site now , it logs me out whenever i do anything or move between pages and then i can no longer log in it gives an error " Security error occurred. Please press back, refresh the page, and try again. "
on chrome
 

adm1jtg

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First you might want to post what issues you are having in 11 as really there have not been many postings about issues on 11 at all.

That said to answer your question:
Android 9 is very old and of course no longer being updated. I cannot even think of a custom rom that is still based on android 9, but if your dead set on going back to 9 and being a huge security risk you need to download the last android 9 full from from google factory images and run the flash-all file either vat or sh depending on what os your on, This will completely wipe your phone.

If you want to try a custom rom there are very few that are actively updated. The only one I can think of that I KNOW is updadated and current is LOS. Unfortunately while it works really well there is absoluetly no support at all for it on our phone. Not even a dedicated xda thread for it. I wqas on it for a while but ran into an issue with dialing 911. Not sure if it was an LOS issue or not but immediately went bqck to stock with custom kernel after that and have been that way ever since.

To summarize:
Android 9 is basically dead and outdated.
Android 10 lives on only in the very few custom roms available
Android 11 at least for me is at least as stable and usable as 9 or 10 was
TWRP is likely never going to return to our phone and honestly really isnt needed anymore. Really the only thing we cannot do anymore is flash something directly from our phone. Without TWRP you must now flash all images and kernels and such from a pc.

Yeah this site is not quite ready for prime time yet. I also have constant issues with it. Hopefully the reply goes through this time
 

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so what does this mean?
i just got a brand new 3a XL
i updated it to 11 and now the phone has so many issues that it is not even useable for me anymore, i need to go back to 9 or flash a custom ROM
so can i downgrade it to pie or dirty flash a stock pie rom and then install TWRP on it and flash a custom rom?
or am i now stuck on a 11 with no way to flash to an older stock rom or custom rom or install TWRP?
also if you install TWRP on 9 then i assume you can still flash a stock 10 or 11 rom and revert back to 9 right
Haven't seen a reply
i see you quoted my post but it is blank
also i am having major problems navigating this new site now , it logs me out whenever i do anything or move between pages and then i can no longer log in it gives an error " Security error occurred. Please press back, refresh the page, and try again. "
on chrome
Did you see the reply this time?
 

gdroid666

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Haven't seen a reply

Did you see the reply this time?
yes i can see it
the problems i have are
1)using assistant via "hey Google" does not respond to what i say, instead it brings up a menu of suggestions , and i have to repeat myself
or sometimes it won't work at all just says can't reach google try again later
2) smart lock trusted device does not work it constantly relocks my phone after minutes no matter what trusted bluetooth devices are paired , not only annoying but dangerously distracting while driving"
3) problems with android auto and android auto with assistant ,
4) bug where pressing the volume rocker to adjust media or ringer volume (in either direction) causes all sound, media or ringer to just stop
5)problems with the accessing the phone screen while in a call
when i pull the phone from my ear and go to use the screen when in a call the screen goes off and is not responsive to touch then it goes on for a split second , then off, then on, then off , then on
seems like the software service that controls the (light?) sensor that detects if the phone is being held to your ear is not working right, i had issues with this on my nexus 6p too though but it had a different sort of behavior , it would just be black and unresponsive and i had to press the power button to wake the screen again, and i had to stop using power button ends call cause it would end the call whenever i needed to use my screen while in a call and the glitch happened and kept the screen from waking when i pulled away from my ear
6) sometimes get glitches with the app switcher/recents
sometimes the "pill" gesture does not respond and i can not bring it up at all,
and the animations are all glitched out too nearly all the time
animations are a mess jumpy, glitchy ,shaky
it's going to give someone a seizure
7) no visual VM tab in the stock phone dialer app
this was working on 9 on another 3aXL ut stopped after update to 10 ,same carrier but this had been a problem on the nexus 6p too
off /on issue , mostly off
8) texting photos to IOS devices does not go through now

i thought it said you could install TWRP on the 3a XL if you were on Android 9

so what i was asking is, what happens if you dirty flash a stock Android 9 ROM? then would i be able to install TWRP from there
or i can not do it now since i updated it to 11?

I am just curious if it can be done, I will probably just take your advice and stay on 11 for now though and hope there is aoe improvements in android 12 developer preview
i am not at all hopeful though

and after testing my old phone some of the same assistant and auto bugs are on those devices too so i guess it is just issues with assistant that cropped up the same ties i updated
 

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yes i can see it
the problems i have are
1)using assistant via "hey Google" does not respond to what i say, instead it brings up a menu of suggestions , and i have to repeat myself
or sometimes it won't work at all just says can't reach google try again later

Cant comment on this as I dont use assistant

2) smart lock trusted device does not work it constantly relocks my phone after minutes no matter what trusted bluetooth devices are paired , not only annoying but dangerously distracting while driving"

Dont use smartlock either

3) problems with android auto and android auto with assistant ,

Dont use android auto either

4) bug where pressing the volume rocker to adjust media or ringer volume (in either direction) causes all sound, media or ringer to just stop

Never had this happen and had this phone on both stock 10 and 11 and also on LOS 17.1

5)problems with the accessing the phone screen while in a call
when i pull the phone from my ear and go to use the screen when in a call the screen goes off and is not responsive to touch then it goes on for a split second , then off, then on, then off , then on
seems like the software service that controls the (light?) sensor that detects if the phone is being held to your ear is not working right, i had issues with this on my nexus 6p too though but it had a different sort of behavior , it would just be black and unresponsive and i had to press the power button to wake the screen again, and i had to stop using power button ends call cause it would end the call whenever i needed to use my screen while in a call and the glitch happened and kept the screen from waking when i pulled away from my ear

Never had this happen with any of the above roms either
Could your tempered glass somehow be blocking the sensor as I have heard of symptoms like that being caused by one.

6) sometimes get glitches with the app switcher/recents
sometimes the "pill" gesture does not respond and i can not bring it up at all,
and the animations are all glitched out too nearly all the time
animations are a mess jumpy, glitchy ,shaky
it's going to give someone a seizure

Not helpful I know but also never seen this occur in all my time using many android phones

7) no visual VM tab in the stock phone dialer app
this was working on 9 on another 3aXL ut stopped after update to 10 ,same carrier but this had been a problem on the nexus 6p too
off /on issue , mostly off

Only seen this when your not using the correct/default stock phone apk

8) texting photos to IOS devices does not go through now

I text stuff to iphones all the time, could be a carrier or apn issue

i thought it said you could install TWRP on the 3a XL if you were on Android 9

I was never on android 9 on this phone but I believe thats correct. However you would lose all security updates for well over a year and a half or so. I BELIEVE the last android 9 rom update was aug 2019

so what i was asking is, what happens if you dirty flash a stock Android 9 ROM? then would i be able to install TWRP from there
or i can not do it now since i updated it to 11?

You could go back but it would not be advised and since twrp shares the boot partition as soon as you flashed any rom greater the android 9 you would lose twrp.

I am just curious if it can be done, I will probably just take your advice and stay on 11 for now though and hope there is aoe improvements in android 12 developer preview
i am not at all hopeful though

and after testing my old phone some of the same assistant and auto bugs are on those devices too so i guess it is just issues with assistant that cropped up the same ties i updated

ugh I really am not liking this new forum format. I answered each of your line items under each number but it really isnt showing up very well.

Sorry it has taken so long to respond but i wanted to give a complete answer. Given all the issues you are having and that in my personal opinion going back to 9 really isnt a good idea I would recommend giving los 17.1 a try. It will NOT get you twrp but it is based on android 10, and updated weekly. The only downside to LOS 17.1 is that there is literally no support at all. Even the responsibvle dm's I dont believe even own our phone. That said it ran perfactly for me except a wierd 911 issue that may or may not have been due to LOS. I am seriously thinking of going back to LOS myself, am just really lazy as I would have to redo my entire phone and start with a clean android 10 stock flash.
 

41rw4lk

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When you have backup religion: 'tWRp IsNt NEedEd ANyMoRE'

Yet nobody can answer OP's question.
There is no alternative for our device running 10 or 11. If we had a device tree newer than 9 we could probably get an auto build from teamwin, but as of now there is none.
As for backing up, most things are backed up using cloud services, not to mention twrp isn't so elegant on a/b devices. You have to reinstall after updates, it can interfere with built in updaters, and restoring backups on a/b devices seem to cause more problems that anything.
 
There is no alternative for our device running 10 or 11. If we had a device tree newer than 9 we could probably get an auto build from teamwin, but as of now there is none.
As for backing up, most things are backed up using cloud services, not to mention twrp isn't so elegant on a/b devices. You have to reinstall after updates, it can interfere with built in updaters, and restoring backups on a/b devices seem to cause more problems that anything.
An often repeated mantra it seems that has little to do with creating and restoring partition images. Where I might agree is the lack of need for an elaborate gui to perform update and flash procedures. Seems LOS recovery could fit a dd function into the recovery partition. But lack of user control over boot slot after a crap system update is all the code politics I need to know. No wonder DU folded up.
 
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    so what does this mean?
    i just got a brand new 3a XL
    i updated it to 11 and now the phone has so many issues that it is not even useable for me anymore, i need to go back to 9 or flash a custom ROM
    so can i downgrade it to pie or dirty flash a stock pie rom and then install TWRP on it and flash a custom rom?
    or am i now stuck on a 11 with no way to flash to an older stock rom or custom rom or install TWRP?
    also if you install TWRP on 9 then i assume you can still flash a stock 10 or 11 rom and revert back to 9 right