I wish we had AOSP

[nsciucco]

I'll donate 50$ to the first person to release a bootable AOSP/CM ROM

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[micmars]

I would like to think that works, but I hardly see the value of conditional contributions for work on this scale. I'm not one to think that only one means can accomplish an end, but to me that's an awfully small amount of money when assayed against the work involved.

I've seen AOSP builds done where the dev accepts no donations whatsoever. They do it for the sake of doing. I've seen it done where the dev accepts donations, but I'm unclear as to whether a bounty was the impetus.

I believe that time is the primary driver here. In time, an AOSP dev will take on this phone as a personal hell. Then you shall have your AOSP rom, and I'd suggest tossing the fifty at the man doing the unbelievable amount of labor involved. Perhaps offer to test, as well.

As noted, I hope I'm wrong.

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[tonyevo52]

I'm coming to Note 3 from HTC EVO LTE and from what I see, development is way behind, not even worth rooting this phone at this point. There's a couple of roms out there, but there seems to be a lot of uncertainty on how to do things here. Maybe it's just me though...

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[micmars]

I'm coming to Note 3 from HTC EVO LTE and from what I see, development is way behind, not even worth rooting this phone at this point. There's a couple of there, but there seems to be a lot of uncertainty on how to do things here.

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It's an outstanding group. We have some of the best devs on xda. It's a new phone, and I am proud of what has been accomplished. If the development work is at an unsatisfying level for you, then move on, please, and I wish you well. I hope you find that for which you seek.

Or stay and support the excellent work that's being done. Either is an excellent option. Give this group time. You haven't seen anything yet.

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[mhutton]

It's an outstanding group. We have some of the best devs on xda. It's a new phone, and I am proud of what has been accomplished. If the development work is at an unsatisfying level for you, then move on, please, and I wish you well. I hope you find that for which you seek.

Or stay and support the excellent work that's being done. Either is an excellent option. Give this group time. You haven't seen anything yet.

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@micmars I would have to absolutely agree. Every Dev we have here on the note 3 is outstanding and always very helpful. They go absolutely above and beyond for what they get in return. I couldn't be happier with them or there ROM'S. I'll take quality over quality any day.


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[tonyevo52]

I'm not knocking what you all are doing and I like this phone so far, I'm just saying that coming from a phone that had countless roms to one where It's not worth rooting yet is disappointing. And yes, I understand it's a new phone and it takes time. But I do appreciate what the devs do, it was not my intention to bust on anyone...

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[micmars]

I'm not knocking what you all are doing and I like this phone so far, I'm just saying that coming from a phone that had countless roms to one where It's not worth rooting yet is disappointing. And yes, I understand it's a new phone and it takes time. But I do appreciate what the devs do, it was not my intention to bust on anyone...

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Didn't think you were. I was, however, putting my thoughts out there for you and for the devs that work their butts off. Whether you meant to give offense is of less concern to me than those whom might have received it as such.

I do think that the observation is harbored by many, but I think the situation is as good as one could hope. Consider that this is a CDMA device, on the 3rd largest network, and a niche phone. It explains a lot of what you've duly noted. I think, relatively speaking, the level of development is quite strong, and will get much better with the passing of the new year.

Ultimately, I'm glad you are enjoying the phone.

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[nsciucco]

I am very grateful to the DEVS here. Truthfully if I had a decent Linux machine I would do it myself

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[wojo797]

I would like to think that works, but I hardly see the value of conditional contributiofantastically. on this scale. I'm not one to think that only one means can accomplish an end, but to me that's an awfully small amount of money when assayed against the work involved.

I've seen AOSP builds done where the dev accepts no donations whatsoever. They do it for the sake of doing. I've seen it done where the dev accepts donations, but I'm unclear as to whether a bounty was the impetus.

I believe that time is the primary driver here. In time, an AOSP dev will take on this phone as a personal hell. Then you shall have your AOSP rom, and I'd suggest tossing the fifty at the man doing the unbelievable amount of labor involved. Perhaps offer to test, as well.

As noted, I hope I'm wrong.

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"Condition contributions" are exactly what brought Sbrissen to the note 2 and ktoonz to the s4. Which worked out fantastically. I know I would personally throw in at least 50 for a sbrissen over here ( he has Verizon but did it for sprint too). although thanks for josh beach and freeza for all the work they do. I prefer aosp , although jellybomb is a beautiful thing.

 

[lazerus06]

To be honest, I could take or leave AOSP. On my Note 2, I would flash an AOSP ROM but would soon start to miss some of the TW features that were native to Samsung phones. Sure there were some third party apps that did some of the Spen functionality, but none were as good as what Samsung did. I actually like the Samsung camera as well.
For some, saying "Pure Android is the only way to go man..." is a little silly to me. Those people are starting to become the Apple people of the Android world.
For me, installing one of the amazing Roms already here so I can customize what I want on the phone, plus a stock looking launcher like Nova equals the best of both worlds: The cool functionality of Touchwiz with the clean look of stock Android.

 

[swiss_knife77]

...We're growing. Slowly but surely. Patience is key in development. Extra donations of encouragement is good but..sometimes even the best motivating incentives can have hurdles because of the intricacies the devs encounter... It's a time game and most importantly it's about doing it right! Or as close to stable as possible =). Soon enough we'll all be breaking off a pice of our kit kat bars.

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[wojo797]

To be honest, I could take or leave AOSP. On my Note 2, I would flash an AOSP ROM but would soon start to miss some of the TW features that were native to Samsung phones. Sure there were some third party apps that did some of the Spen functionality, but none were as good as what Samsung did. I actually like the Samsung camera as well.
For some, saying "Pure Android is the only way to go man..." is a little silly to me. Those people are starting to become the Apple people of the Android world.
For me, installing one of the amazing Roms already here so I can customize what I want on the phone, plus a stock looking launcher like Nova equals the best of both worlds: The cool functionality of Touchwiz with the clean look of stock Android.

Sorry but for me pure android is the only way to go sorry I am proud to be one of those people.. Not a fan of bloat I will always be a Mac/Linux guy. I love simplicity and function...not a monster truck show...all flash and no substance. For the record I am not complaining.I love my note and the custom Roms I have the chance to use because of the developers hard work.

 

[micmars]

"Condition contributions" are exactly what brought Sbrissen to the note 2 and ktoonz to the s4. Which worked out fantastically. I know I would personally throw in at least 50 for a sbrissen over here ( he has Verizon but did it for sprint too). although thanks for josh beach and freeza for all the work they do. I prefer aosp , although jellybomb is a beautiful thing.

You'll note that what I wrote was speculative. That stated, I'd rather have the word of the devs you mention stating that a $50 bounty was that which triggered their initial foray into building an AOSP rom for a specific device. If you can point me towards that, I'll find it pretty cool.

I'll stand by my initial post, which averred that, though plausible, seems only part of the picture.

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[wojo797]

You'll note that what I wrote was speculative. That stated, I'd rather have the word of the devs you mention stating that a $50 bounty was that which triggered their initial foray into building an AOSP rom for a specific device. If you can point me towards that, I'll find it pretty cool.

I'll stand by my initial post, which averred that, though plausible, seems only part of the picture.

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No actually it was arranged I believe that the donations would be to buy them a device..never did I say a fifty dollar donarion would buy there services. Oh verbose one

 

[micmars]

Verbose, Yes...

No actually it was arranged I believe that the donations would be to buy them a device..never did I say a fifty dollar donarion would buy there services. Oh verbose one

Yes, but from the start I did say that I doubted $50 was sufficient. And yeah, I am verbose when I measure my words.

 

[wojo797]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019062

Just for a reference..threads not about you micmars... Quit trying to make it so...nonone cares if your wrong or right nor if you measure your words etc..the thread is about aosp on the n3. Back to the discussion please

Yes, but from the start I did say that I doubted $50 was sufficient. And yeah, I am verbose when I measure my words.

 

[micmars]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019062

Just for a reference..threads not about you micmars... Quit trying to make it so...nonone cares if your wrong or right nor if you measure your words etc..the thread is about aosp on the n3. Back to the discussion please

Thanks for the link, man. Like I said, that's cool.

Ya got me, you devil. I'm a narcissist, and love being reduced to stereotypes. It's the shiz. See, I made it about me again with this post.

And no, the thread is about fifty bucks offered for getting someone to build an AOSP rom for the Sprint Note 3.

Here's the thread that's unfettered by bounties,

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46799089

Developer of CyanogenMod is developing CM for our devices?

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[freeza]

I'm coming to Note 3 from HTC EVO LTE and from what I see, development is way behind, not even worth rooting this phone at this point. There's a couple of roms out there, but there seems to be a lot of uncertainty on how to do things here. Maybe it's just me though...

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Well, you're used to HTC phones and them having a ton of crap that needed to be fixed or modded in the first place. Welcome to Samsung.

"Condition contributions" are exactly what brought Sbrissen to the note 2 and ktoonz to the s4. Which worked out fantastically. I know I would personally throw in at least 50 for a sbrissen over here ( he has Verizon but did it for sprint too). although thanks for josh beach and freeza for all the work they do. I prefer aosp , although jellybomb is a beautiful thing.

You're welcome


The problem is you guys are failing to understand a few things:
-This phone is HIGH end, costing 700+ dollars.
-A lot of folks got their upgrades on the S4, HTC One, or Nexus 4.
-There are a lot more players in the game this time around. LG,Nexus 5, Motorola, etc. Much more diverse and people have spread out over phones.

About AOSP; lazerus06 said it perfectly. To install AOSP on this phone without proper support for its features is pretty much gimping the phone. I suppose there will always be the set-in-their-ways diehard AOSP fans, but for this phone it is ridiculous and irrelevant.

As for dev-fanboyism--the issue is that you guys overlook devs if they aren't your "favorite dev" which is pretty bad for development in general. I get it. You found someone who's work you enjoy and you want them to follow you to your next phone, but seriously. There are good devs here and yeah, there may not be 20 different ROMs to flash, but that's better for the forum. You're used to your old phones having 63 different ROMs all taking the same mods from the same people with only slight variations (themes, and maybe a mod or two) in said ROM. That's retarded. Nobody wants a clone of someone elses work with a different theme. Understandably, this can look like a lack of development for this phone, but on the contrary, it helps weed out would-be clone devs and hopefully will retain a good choice between a few ROMs that are incredibly different from each other.

As for kernel devs, I got into building my first kernel not even a month ago and let me tell you, these people are nobody to praise. I would never accept some bounty or even take part in one to pull someone over to build a kernel for my phone. Ktoon may be a cool person IRL, but online the dude has a big head and is terrible at taking suggestions, and fixing problems. For example, when I had the Galaxy S III on Sprint and had no experience in kernel development, I relied on other people's kernels and let me tell you, his was the most unstable, problematic kernel I've ever come across. I have on a few occasions tried to reach out to him via PM to get some of the problems, namely Bluetooth audio fixed and his reply to me was

Audio sent through my bluetooth headphones sounds like it's coming from a record player (cracking and popping) but all other audio sounds fine. If you want to fix it and need a tester, hit me up.

Im not seeing that, sounds like a governor not playing nice with your phone or too much UV?

No UV at all, and using the OnDemand gov. No overclock

Weird. These phones baffle me sometimes.

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Now to me that sounds like someone that doesn't care. If it were my kernel, I would not rest until an issue was fixed regardless if I had the problem on my phone or not.

Also, building kernels is not rocket science and with websites like GitHub around, you can kang someone's source, patches, mods, and features straight out of their repository without doing any real work yourself. It is actually quite easy to do if you don't plan on doing any original work. So, please don't fool yourself into thinking some of these kernel devs are people you need to throw money at to get to get decent development work. Because, the best developers aren't the ones who can be bought over to another phone.

 

[wojo797]

Thanks for the link, man. Like I said, that's cool.

Ya got me, you devil.about sobering else. I apologize I'm a narcissist, and love being reduced to stereotypes. It's the shiz. See, I made it about me again with this post.

And no, the thread is about fifty bucks offered for getting someone to build an AOSP rom for the Sprint Note 3.

Here's the thread that's unfettered by bounties,

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46799089

Developer of CyanogenMod is developing CM for our devices?

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Your right I actually did allow myself to get distracted from the original post and try to make it into something else..I apologize

 

[wojo797]

I'm still lost on what features I would lose with aosp? Touchwiz? I use nova anyway. S-pen? I rarely if ever use it..and all your losing is the hover function anyway. I hav owned the s3 ,n2 and s4 and always used aosp. With variants like rootbox and carbon I really don't see what I'm missing out on? Other than Samsung and sprint bloatware..I mean miniN3 is proof of how much junk is shoe horned onto our phones by the carriers and Samsung. I don't change prls? Although I don't think aosp is perfect it is nice having that option. I do prefer the stock camera and video player.I amsseriously not being a ahole here I am just asking.