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spoiltz

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I bought my Galaxy SII, a few days back. At that time i had option to choose between I9100 and I9100G, as the vendor had both. So, i preferred I9100 over I9100G.
Many of you, may have got I9100G, recently, as it is the new stock available. Samsung is trying to replace the original SII, i.e. I9100 with I9100G, in the markets of INDIA, MALAYSIA & SINGAPORE.
This is to fulfill the demands of GALAXY SII, which has increased vastly. So, to fulfill the demand, before it dies out, SAMSUNG has quietly slipped I9100G version, which has PowerVR TI OMAP 4430 processor, and not the Exynos 4210.

So, what i have researched and found out is that, it is better, if you can get an I9100, before it extincts, instead of getting stuck with "G".
By no means, i am saying that, I9100G, is bad, what i am trying to say here is that, its not as good as I9100's Exynos.

Some major differences which i found out are:-

1. Galaxy SII I9100 will be the first in the GALAXY family, to get an ICS update.

2. Exynos processors still have huge RAW power.

3. The isuue is GPU used in I9100G has PowerVR540 TI OMAP 4430, at 300 MHz,which is single core and weak, compared to MALI400MP+, which is quadcore inside Exynos.
******I am talking about GPU, and not single or dual core CPU******

4. Regarding future updates, I9100G users may be isolated, as I9100G is not replacing original I9100 in EU, and so many other countries.

5. Also, the development support for I9100, is much much much greater than I9100G. As majority of the community still uses I9100.

6. The overheating problem is very less in I9100G, as compared to I9100.

7. Battery, too performs well in I9100G.

8. But, both overheating, and battery improvement, doesn't comes without cost. I9100G doesn't gets overheated, because its cpu is clocked max at 1.008 Ghz, unlike 1.2Ghz in I9100. Same, helps with improved battery.

Well, these were the major issues which i pointed out.
Also, here i am just trying to convey knowledge, which i gained to others.I have not posted this to decide whats superior, its just a comaprison.

Any Opinions, or views is warmly welcomed.
 

ambar_hitman

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Nice post. I suggest you head to Indian Galaxy SII owner thread for more details.
The Indian I9100G got an official 2.3.6 update via Samsung KIES and I9100 DIDNT get any update. Its still stuck on 2.3.3 in India, where as most of the world got 2.3.6 1-2 weeks back. So in short, Samsung has stopped supporting FW update for I9100 via KIES and OTA.

Check the thread for more details. Members are posting Samsung India on Facebook, Twitter, their customer support chat etc etc. Only way to upgrade Indian I9100 is to flash European Firmware.
 

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I bought my Galaxy SII, a few days back. At that time i had option to choose between I9100 and I9100G, as the vendor had both. So, i preferred I9100 over I9100G.
Many of you, may have got I9100G, recently, as it is the new stock available. Samsung is trying to replace the original SII, i.e. I9100 with I9100G, in the markets of INDIA, MALAYSIA & SINGAPORE.
This is to fulfill the demands of GALAXY SII, which has increased vastly. So, to fulfill the demand, before it dies out, SAMSUNG has quietly slipped I9100G version, which has PowerVR TI OMAP 4430 processor, and not the Exynos 4210.

So, what i have researched and found out is that, it is better, if you can get an I9100, before it extincts, instead of getting stuck with "G".
By no means, i am saying that, I9100G, is bad, what i am trying to say here is that, its not as good as I9100's Exynos.

Some major differences which i found out are:-

1. Galaxy SII I9100 will be the first in the GALAXY family, to get an ICS update.

2. Exynos processors still have huge RAW power.

3. The isuue is GPU used in I9100G has PowerVR540 TI OMAP 4430, at 300 MHz,which is single core and weak, compared to MALI400MP+, which is quadcore inside Exynos.
******I am talking about GPU, and not single or dual core CPU******

4. Regarding future updates, I9100G users may be isolated, as I9100G is not replacing original I9100 in EU, and so many other countries.

5. Also, the development support for I9100, is much much much greater than I9100G. As majority of the community still uses I9100.

6. The overheating problem is very less in I9100G, as compared to I9100.

7. Battery, too performs well in I9100G.

8. But, both overheating, and battery improvement, doesn't comes without cost. I9100G doesn't gets overheated, because its cpu is clocked max at 1.008 Ghz, unlike 1.2Ghz in I9100. Same, helps with improved battery.

Well, these were the major issues which i pointed out.
Also, here i am just trying to convey knowledge, which i gained to others.I have not posted this to decide whats superior, its just a comaprison.

Any Opinions, or views is warmly welcomed.

I9100G is better for porting cyanogenmod etc.
TI is a very good Soc vendor

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^Yeah, that is a plus point of I9100G. The TI OMAP processor is very dev friendly, thanks to its source being released and its presence in many phones like Optimus 2X, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Moto Razr etc. This is one of the reasons why 2.3.6 update of I9100G was released earlier than I9100 in India. I bet ICS porting will also be easy as Galaxy Nexus is also using Ti OMAP (4460 instead of 4430) but same Power VR GPU.
Expect ports of all major ROMS soon. CM9 and MIUI ports are already confirmed.

Also, the I9100G sound quality is better than I9100, thanks to OMAP processor. We all know about the audio quality of S2 from the Anandtech article, which criticizes the Ymaha DAC used on I9100.
 

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The Mali GPU isn't quad core, doesn't mean it says 4 cores its quad, e.g my amd gpu has 600 cores, so whats that?

The Mali GPU is a single core in the SGS2, it is better than the SGX543 which Apple A5 chip uses but has 2 SGX543 which is why it outperforms all GPU even Tegra 3 which atm is the best single GPU.
 

spoiltz

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Nice post. I suggest you head to Indian Galaxy SII owner thread for more details.
The Indian I9100G got an official 2.3.6 update via Samsung KIES and I9100 DIDNT get any update. Its still stuck on 2.3.3 in India, where as most of the world got 2.3.6 1-2 weeks back. So in short, Samsung has stopped supporting FW update for I9100 via KIES and OTA.

Check the thread for more details. Members are posting Samsung India on Facebook, Twitter, their customer support chat etc etc. Only way to upgrade Indian I9100 is to flash European Firmware.



The official support for indian i9100, is not closed.
Still, the phone will get ICS, confirmed it via Samsung India.
 

spoiltz

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^Yeah, that is a plus point of I9100G. The TI OMAP processor is very dev friendly, thanks to its source being released and its presence in many phones like Optimus 2X, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Moto Razr etc. This is one of the reasons why 2.3.6 update of I9100G was released earlier than I9100 in India. I bet ICS porting will also be easy as Galaxy Nexus is also using Ti OMAP (4460 instead of 4430) but same Power VR GPU.
Expect ports of all major ROMS soon. CM9 and MIUI ports are already confirmed.

Also, the I9100G sound quality is better than I9100, thanks to OMAP processor. We all know about the audio quality of S2 from the Anandtech article, which criticizes the Ymaha DAC used on I9100.

Both the phones got pro's as well as con's.
I9100 still got better development support, as it is available in majority of countries. Whereas, I9100G will only be pushed to India, Vietnam, Malaysia & Singapore Markets.
Updates which are being developed, will be first pushed to I9100, as its community is vast.
It doesn't matters, if an update is being pushed to India or not.Actually, this is the point of us being here, that if we don't get something, and are not satisfied, we can look at development at xda. A EU firmware, or any other firmware, doesn't really matters.

Same thing applies, with I9100G, it really doesn't matters, what you have got with it, there is always development, as long as devs support it.

For now, I9100 got better support, as it was here from a long time. Now, that I9100G is here, it too will get supported.

Rest TI OMAP4430 PoverVR540, too is on par with Exynos 4210.
 

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I9100G replacing I9100 is not true, Until the stock arrives for I9100 , the"G" series will be replacing it.

The thing is, to meet the demands of I9100, Samsung pushed I9100G, quietly, so that the demand doesn't dies out.
Also, as i was informed by the Samsung People, was that I9100G, will be available from now on.
 

ambar_hitman

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The official support for indian i9100, is not closed.
Still, the phone will get ICS, confirmed it via Samsung India.
Can you confirm why 2.3.6 or 2.3.5 or even 2.3.4 not released for I9100 in India?
Also, all online retailers selling I9100 have increased their prices in one day, hinting that I9100 stocks are limited.

I9100G replacing I9100 is not true, Until the stock arrives for I9100 , the"G" series will be replacing it.

Unfortunately, most Asia-Pacific markets wont be having I9100 anymore. Its already stopped in Malaysia, even proper I9100G boxes are there. They announced it on their Facebook as well. Soon, it will be the same in India.
 
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OMAP is better than Samsung chipset.
Okay, the processor is almost equal to Exynos.
Only Mali 400 is beating SGX540 (I've it good?).

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OMAP is better than Samsung chipset.
Okay, the processor is almost equal to Exynos.
Only Mali 400 is beating SGX540 (I've it good?).

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Wrong. The Exynos chipset is the fastest processor on a phone to date.
The OMAP4430 in the G is not anywhere near as good as the Exynos.
The Mali-400 is faster then the SGX540 by a mile.
The 9100G has inferior performance then the 9100.
 

netchip

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Wrong. The Exynos chipset is the fastest processor on a phone to date.
The OMAP4430 in the G is not anywhere near as good as the Exynos.
The Mali-400 is faster then the SGX540 by a mile.
The 9100G has inferior performance then the 9100.

OMAP 4430 == OMAP 4460 the last one get 7000 antutu WITHOUT OCing, LOL

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spoiltz

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OMAP is better than Samsung chipset.
Okay, the processor is almost equal to Exynos.
Only Mali 400 is beating SGX540 (I've it good?).

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U are right buddy, Mali 400 beats SGX540.
Also, Exynos was the chipset designed for best phones of samsung. TI OMAP, is comparitively not so new, and nxt gen.
 

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I've seen Mali lose in some open gl benchmarks to sgx 540 in the optimus 3D an when it does beat Mali its not by a lot an I think To has best gpus that's y Samsung used it in the Og Galaxy

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And here i was worrying so much that ive gotten myself a i9100g. After hearing that the CPU was only clocked at 1ghz, and was built with a completely different chipset, i felt cheated. I was also worried about the amount of DEV support that my phone would be receiving...But after reading this thread a little i guess it gave me some confidence in my phone :D

Is there a reason why the i9100g version was only clocked at 1gz? because ive clocked it to 1.2ghz most of the time...im afraid that might cause problem :(
 
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Im from Malaysia here.. its a quite a debate seeing galaxy nexus potential users saying the exynos aint that superb compared to the G variant.. but im not seeing any ICS yet to it despite it having omap just like galaxy nexus itself..

And they compared about the DAC.. is yamaha dac is that bad and is the one in the G variant is damn good till voodoo sound applicable? Thats a debate indeed

I own a 9100 non G and happy with the support it has from the devs for now.. best to say that for now if ur flashing custom roms and kernel, go for the original sgs2 instead of the G variant.. thats all.. the rest is too argumentative

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And here i was worrying so much that ive gotten myself a i9100g. After hearing that the CPU was only clocked at 1ghz, and was built with a completely different chipset, i felt cheated. I was also worried about the amount of DEV support that my phone would be receiving...But after reading this thread a little i guess it gave me some confidence in my phone :D

Is there a reason why the i9100g version was only clocked at 1gz? because ive clocked it to 1.2ghz most of the time...im afraid that might cause problem :(

I9100G , is clocked at 1ghz, is a good thing for "G".
It doesn't overheats, easily, as I9100 variant.
Also, the battery life is better.
 
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    I bought my Galaxy SII, a few days back. At that time i had option to choose between I9100 and I9100G, as the vendor had both. So, i preferred I9100 over I9100G.
    Many of you, may have got I9100G, recently, as it is the new stock available. Samsung is trying to replace the original SII, i.e. I9100 with I9100G, in the markets of INDIA, MALAYSIA & SINGAPORE.
    This is to fulfill the demands of GALAXY SII, which has increased vastly. So, to fulfill the demand, before it dies out, SAMSUNG has quietly slipped I9100G version, which has PowerVR TI OMAP 4430 processor, and not the Exynos 4210.

    So, what i have researched and found out is that, it is better, if you can get an I9100, before it extincts, instead of getting stuck with "G".
    By no means, i am saying that, I9100G, is bad, what i am trying to say here is that, its not as good as I9100's Exynos.

    Some major differences which i found out are:-

    1. Galaxy SII I9100 will be the first in the GALAXY family, to get an ICS update.

    2. Exynos processors still have huge RAW power.

    3. The isuue is GPU used in I9100G has PowerVR540 TI OMAP 4430, at 300 MHz,which is single core and weak, compared to MALI400MP+, which is quadcore inside Exynos.
    ******I am talking about GPU, and not single or dual core CPU******

    4. Regarding future updates, I9100G users may be isolated, as I9100G is not replacing original I9100 in EU, and so many other countries.

    5. Also, the development support for I9100, is much much much greater than I9100G. As majority of the community still uses I9100.

    6. The overheating problem is very less in I9100G, as compared to I9100.

    7. Battery, too performs well in I9100G.

    8. But, both overheating, and battery improvement, doesn't comes without cost. I9100G doesn't gets overheated, because its cpu is clocked max at 1.008 Ghz, unlike 1.2Ghz in I9100. Same, helps with improved battery.

    Well, these were the major issues which i pointed out.
    Also, here i am just trying to convey knowledge, which i gained to others.I have not posted this to decide whats superior, its just a comaprison.

    Any Opinions, or views is warmly welcomed.
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    Just pointless..

    First off.. I9100 > I9100G (as far as technical specs and raw power go) The I9100 has a more powerful processor and GPU, Everything else is pretty much exactly the same!!
    Now, as far as user experience goes, I think under normal everyday use you'd be hard pressed to notice much difference. So for those who like to have a phone with plenty of excess raw power, the I9100 is the far better option, but for those who are only concerned about it running what is currently available, there will be no difference between either. Its just the same as how a hardcore gamer will by a computer far more powerful than what they need, as they want a guarantee that it will be able to run whatever they throw at it both now and in the future without having to run the system at its maximum to do so.

    Secondly, using benchmarks to try and prove that even with a less powerful processor and GPU, the phone is just as fast, if not faster, is an absolutely pointless exercise. Benchmarks are not an accurate display of a phones actual abilities at all. A benchmarking program is only as good as the methods they use. So ones like Antutu which are built to work on any android device do not take advantage of chipset specific functions, or even the more advanced features that high end devices use. You will notice that each time you run a benchmark on your phone, the result will be different. There are a few reasons why that happens, but I don't need to explain them as the shear fact that the result differs with every run of the benchmarks is enough to prove that they are not reliable for comparing a devices actual performance.

    Thirdly, using the Galaxy Nexus as any sort of reasoning as to which variant of the SGSII is better is completely irrelevant! The Galaxy Nexus is a Google designed device. Samsung is just manufacturing it. The Galaxy Nexus is not a "next model up" from the SGSII, it is merely a reasonably high spec'd flagship for ICS. This is why Google chose the processor and GPU that they did, because the Android API virtual device uses these processors as "default". This is why ICS is available (I am not counting the leaked alpha & beta releases) on the Galaxy Nexus, and not on the SGSII as yet. The chipsets were not chosen for better performance, just for compatibility with ICS.

    Fourthly, both the I9100 & I9100G have 1GB (1024mb) of system RAM. This is shared between CPU and GPU. And because the I9100 has a more powerful GPU, it is allocated more of the RAM for its use. So yes the I9100G has more "available" RAM. but yet again this is irrelevant as the Android operating system has processes in place to clear the memory of unnecessary processes to make sure there is always enough RAM for running programs. So having a few extra MB of available RAM provides absolutely no performance boost at all.

    Lastly, the I9100 currently has better dev support as it has been out for a while and plenty of devs have one to work with. But give it time and the dev support for the I9100G will grow and there will be plenty of custom ROMs & Kernels available for use. Also, for those that brought in comments about banding and such other display issues, both devices are using exactly the same screens, any display issues you are having are software related, not hardware.

    So, the final verdict is.. Yes the I9100 is more powerful than the I9100G. Does this matter.. NO! In the end regardless of which variant you happen to own, you still have a very high end device that is more than capable of doing pretty much anything you want it to currently. Owners of the I9100G shouldn't be upset with their device, it may not have much dev support at the moment, but this will grow as more and more devs start working on them. We should all just be happy the we are owners of one of the BEST (if not THE best) phones on the market at present and that we didn't fall for the Apple hype and buy an iPhail (iPhone) in any variant. We have android devices because we like to be able to do what we want when we want with our phones and not be restricted.
    So regardless of which variant of the SGSII you own, just be happy and enjoy it!!

    ---------- Post added at 04:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:21 PM ----------

    This thread was turned from an informative post providing information as to the differences between the variants in to an Apple-Fanboy type "My phone is better than yours" argument. We are meant to be a community of users and devs working together to make our phones (regardless of variant, model, etc) better for everybody. My above post is intended to bring to light how pointless some of the arguments that were brought up really are. If there is any confusion about anything in my above post, please feel free to let me know, and I will clarify. :-D
    Everytime we try to play the "this is better than that" game with our phones, we are only setting ourselves up for failure. As the only key thing about a phone is user experience. If the user is happy with how the device looks, feels, and works, then WIN! If they are not, then we work to make it better! :-D Simple as that!
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    ambar_hitman said:
    With this sensible post above, lets lock this thread before any other I9100/G user comes running around posting benchmarks and other sh*t.

    Seems like a fair idea, to prevent further misinformation being posted by i9100-G users.

    There will likely always be more development for the I9100, simply due to it being the true international edition which was sold on launch day in the UK and EU, and imported into America.

    As such, if buying a device for the custom development, be sure to go for the non-G edition, at least for the foreseeable future. I don't really envisage it reaching even a fraction of the non-G model's levels of activity.
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    ^Yeah, that is a plus point of I9100G. The TI OMAP processor is very dev friendly, thanks to its source being released and its presence in many phones like Optimus 2X, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Moto Razr etc. This is one of the reasons why 2.3.6 update of I9100G was released earlier than I9100 in India. I bet ICS porting will also be easy as Galaxy Nexus is also using Ti OMAP (4460 instead of 4430) but same Power VR GPU.
    Expect ports of all major ROMS soon. CM9 and MIUI ports are already confirmed.

    Also, the I9100G sound quality is better than I9100, thanks to OMAP processor. We all know about the audio quality of S2 from the Anandtech article, which criticizes the Ymaha DAC used on I9100.
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    Development my foot. The 'G' versions are exclusive to Middle East & Asia where the 2.3.6 updates are already out. The non G versions haven't got that update yet. Plus the G version is issue less. No pink spot. No lag. No dead pixel & no over heating. And yes, having used both G & non G versions. The G has much better battery backup :D
    Same here in India. No update released for I9100 but I9100G already got 2.3.6. So, if you want mods, go for I9100 or else get I9100G.
    As I posted earlier, the benchmark difference in I9100 and G is merely 300 pts in Antutu. The mali and Exonys is definitely better and powerful, but there are very few apps that utilize that power. All games run fine, all videos run fine, the UI is smooth as butter and no heating at all on I9100G. So, who needs that extra power, and for what? Only for your e-pen*s?