[ICS] CM9.1 Android 4.0.4 for the Defy - now with 2ndboot kernels

[campo8558]

1. Yes you can.
2. No you don't have to use multiboot.

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Thanks for the reply. Another question :

- I want to use multiboot. I've installed and it seems to work. How can I install this rom in the 2nd-boot ?

Cheers,
Stefano.

 

[Hasuris]

unbelievable that someone is still on cm7 or cm9... i'm missing so many functions of jellybean (at least the expanded notifications) when having another device than my defy since cm10 at hand...

And to me JB was slooooooowwwwww.... cm7 is A LOT faster. Apps like whatsapp open almost instantly (on JB you have to wait quite a few seconds). I had an incident on CM10 were I had to make a call RIGHT NOW, I tried to open the call-app but nothing happend. I had to kill the process and try again, by that time, it was too late. It was a dealbreaker for me.

Many apps don't work on 2.3.x anymore. CM9 is not as fast as CM7 but still faster than CM10 and all apps are working again I can live with some minor features missing.

 

[UncleDan]

Which is the most "stable" release from walter79 and is there any mirror other than his skydrive? Thanks.

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[disadjusted]

And to me JB was slooooooowwwwww.... cm7 is A LOT faster. Apps like whatsapp open almost instantly (on JB you have to wait quite a few seconds). I had an incident on CM10 were I had to make a call RIGHT NOW, I tried to open the call-app but nothing happend. I had to kill the process and try again, by that time, it was too late. It was a dealbreaker for me.

Many apps don't work on 2.3.x anymore. CM9 is not as fast as CM7 but still faster than CM10 and all apps are working again I can live with some minor features missing.

try newer builds. those perform very well, when phone app is cached it also opens immediately, otherwise it takes perhaps 1 sec. greenify helps a lot to prevent other apps from slowing down your phone... what is the main culprit, because ICS/JB needs more RAM than GB... where this also can happen with lots of apps open.

when you don't need BT i recommend cm10.1, the latest build from 07-09 is blazing fast! not comparable with older builds from 2012... that indeed have been kind of slow in certain situations...

 

[Hasuris]

try newer builds. those perform very well, when phone app is cached it also opens immediately, otherwise it takes perhaps 1 sec. greenify helps a lot to prevent other apps from slowing down your phone... what is the main culprit, because ICS/JB needs more RAM than GB... where this also can happen with lots of apps open.

when you don't need BT i recommend cm10.1, the latest build from 07-09 is blazing fast! not comparable with older builds from 2012... that indeed have been kind of slow in certain situations...

The last build I used was CM10 3.07.2013. I tried them all, doesn't really make a difference. I greenify the s*** out of my phone, always. But you can't do anything about the OS that is slowing down the phone. The newer the androidversion is, the more weight it puts on the hardware. Makes sense when you take the rapid development of the androidphones into account. We have quadcorephones now with 2gb ram, and the current OS is build with these phones in mind. Don't now about CM10.2 but I red it needs even more ram than previous CMs, so I really don't see, how this could be any better. I don't care how "snappy" I can scroll between homescrees. My phone has to be fast at opening apps. The more memory there is to do that, the better.

 

[Shubhamqweasd]

actually more ram doesn't mean faster UI or faster opening apps ..
the OS has to be optimized for the hardware ..
several phones with just 512MB ram have super smooth JB running ,some even has official support ...
the thing is , 4.x.x roms are not optimized for OMAP3 hardware because , there is no kernel 3.x working on it , it takes many components like hwcomposer ,ION etc.. to make it work good..

 

[campo8558]

Ok guys, a big problem. I try to flash the rom but anything works. I follow this guide. So i flashed before the nightly from http://defy.wdscript.fr/defyplus-cm9/ then the kernel ( CM9-ICS-MR0-111207-jordan-KERNEL-2.3.4-Quarx.zip ) and the I flashed again the CM9 nightly and the gapps. But the phone gave me a bootloader error and it stops. what can I do ?


Ok, I reflashed the sbf file with RSD. Everything ok now. So, where I went wrong ?

 

[niksy+]

Ok guys, a big problem. I try to flash the rom but anything works. I follow this guide. So i flashed before the nightly from http://defy.wdscript.fr/defyplus-cm9/ then the kernel ( CM9-ICS-MR0-111207-jordan-KERNEL-2.3.4-Quarx.zip ) and the I flashed again the CM9 nightly and the gapps. But the phone gave me a bootloader error and it stops. what can I do ?


Ok, I reflashed the sbf file with RSD. Everything ok now. So, where I went wrong ?

"...from Froyo stock" says the guide. Were you on Froyo stock?

Anyway, what build have you tried flashing? Walter79'2 build is recommended. It uses the 2ndBoot kernel that is contained within the ROM and is therefore the easiest to flash. You just need that build and the correct gapps zip. No additional fixes (kernels etc) needed.

If you read the last page, though, you would know that there's an update that fixes some important bugs coming from him soon, so maybe you should wait for that

 

[campo8558]

"...from Froyo stock" says the guide. Were you on Froyo stock?

Anyway, what build have you tried flashing? Walter79'2 build is recommended. It uses the 2ndBoot kernel that is contained within the ROM and is therefore the easiest to flash. You just need that build and the correct gapps zip. No additional fixes (kernels etc) needed.

If you read the last page, though, you would know that there's an update that fixes some important bugs coming from him soon, so maybe you should wait for that

No I'm on Gingerbread, but I asked ( here ). Where is Walter792 build ? I flashed the last nightly, taken from here . I need a stable ROM, because the phone isn't mine, but it's a gift for my girlfriend.

 

[niksy+]

No I'm on Gingerbread, but I asked ( here ). Where is Walter792 build ? I flashed the last nightly, taken from here . I need a stable ROM, because the phone isn't mine, but it's a gift for my girlfriend.

You can find his build in his SkyDrive ( https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=b688...B688C895D58E70D4!266&authkey=!AILWEgk88UP71_s )

There's a bug currently that if the battery goes down to 0% you can't charge it, it won't boot. But he said that's fixed and that he's working on a new build currently.

Not my business, but have you considered some of the MIUI GB ROM's? Although my girl doesn't like MIUI one bit... But that's irrelevant, I guess.

I can't help you more on the CM9 issue, since I'm not using it (and I haven't been for the past year now, ever since CM10 showed up), so I don't really remember which build is what, but as I said, I know walter's is 2ndBoot and I know that people really like it, at least from the comments

If you've got questions on non-CM9 stuff, feel free to pm me, I guess :silly:

 

[campo8558]

You can find his build in his SkyDrive ( https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=b688...B688C895D58E70D4!266&authkey=!AILWEgk88UP71_s )

There's a bug currently that if the battery goes down to 0% you can't charge it, it won't boot. But he said that's fixed and that he's working on a new build currently.

Not my business, but have you considered some of the MIUI GB ROM's? Although my girl doesn't like MIUI one bit... But that's irrelevant, I guess.

I can't help you more on the CM9 issue, since I'm not using it (and I haven't been for the past year now, ever since CM10 showed up), so I don't really remember which build is what, but as I said, I know walter's is 2ndBoot and I know that people really like it, at least from the comments

If you've got questions on non-CM9 stuff, feel free to pm me, I guess :silly:

MIUI, I've never used. I'll try. if it were up to me, I don't change anything, but the phone with the ROM stock has some problem. it has random reboot when mobile data is enabled, and it's totally unusable. So a new ROM it's the only way to fix the problem...I hope.

Cheers,
Stefano.

 

[K3n H1mur4]

MIUI, I've never used. I'll try. if it were up to me, I don't change anything, but the phone with the ROM stock has some problem. it has random reboot when mobile data is enabled, and it's totally unusable. So a new ROM it's the only way to fix the problem...I hope.

Cheers,
Stefano.

Best option would be MIUI GB (Pikachu Edition might be a good one) or MS2Ginger, considering it's for a person without CFW knowledge. I flashed MS2Ginger on a friend's girlfriend phone a couple months ago (was on stock froyo) and she haven't complained since, actually said it was great when I asked. For stability and stuff, GB-based ROMs are the best, though I haven't had any issues with my Defy in CM9 (was on 10.1 for over a year, but reverted back to CM9, after trying several ROMs, since I got a new phone and my Defy turned into a secondary phone). I'd keep an eye for the update @niksy+ said, though, since more and more apps on Play Store are requiring 4.0+ now, and 4.3 is already out there (lots of apps usually support about 3-4 Android versions older than the latest one, because they need the most recent API version they can while keeping compatibility with most phones - 4.0+ represents over 60% of Android now, while Gingerbread and earlier versions stand up for the rest of these, GB with over 30%)

 

[Hasuris]

@walter79 can increase the volume steps from 15 to 30 or more? It's the only complaint I have with this rom. I can't set the volume for the headphones right, it's either too high or too low. I tried to adjust the steps myself in the framework.jar but so far no luck.

Edit: nevermind, got it working. Now the rom is perfect!

 

[sonymanw]

simlock removed?

 

[rekcah_ogami]

Just want to ask...

Would it be possible for Defy to get 4.X+? Or this'd only be a UI upgrade?

 

[niksy+]

Just want to ask...

Would it be possible for Defy to get 4.X+? Or this'd only be a UI upgrade?

Mate, we've already got it all - 4.1, 4.2 and 4.3. Check out CM10, CM10.1 and CM10.2, for example. There are more Jelly Bean ROMs out there, browse the forums a bit :silly:

 

[K3n H1mur4]

Just want to ask...

Would it be possible for Defy to get 4.X+? Or this'd only be a UI upgrade?

I think you've mistaken a new Android version for the updates provided on the official channels. We obviously need some files (like some drivers and etc) which are the same as the ones used in 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 (because there aren't newer versions of them), but we do have Android 4.x in our phones, with full (or nearly full) functionality. As far as I know, all the goodies introduced in ICS are here on CM9, the same for CM10. For 10.1+, we have a few limitations: photo sphere, i.e., will never work, because the Defy has no gyroscope (needed for PS to work properly), but any device without gyroscope which has official 4.2 (if there are any) also won't be able to produce photo spheres either. Some other limitations go to the lack of up-to-date drivers, or because our devices don't have (officially) a 3.x kernel. But, as much as hardware and software (including the ones created by our always hardworking devs, like Quarx, Blechd0se and many others, without any help from Motorola - like the new WiFi drivers used in most of 4.1+ ROMs around here) allow, we do have 4.x on our devices. I'm not quite sure KitKat will be available because the Defy is kinda old now (almost on its 3rd birthday party), and many devs prefer to focus their work on devices with better official support and newer ones with hardware able to handle all the new features being introduced by each version, but we can always have hope.
You can be sure Motorola won't provide any new updates to your Defy, but the independent devs community will give you some support while they can.

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[rekcah_ogami]

I think you've mistaken a new Android version for the updates provided on the official channels. We obviously need some files (like some drivers and etc) which are the same as the ones used in 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 (because there aren't newer versions of them), but we do have Android 4.x in our phones, with full (or nearly full) functionality. As far as I know, all the goodies introduced in ICS are here on CM9, the same for CM10. For 10.1+, we have a few limitations: photo sphere, i.e., will never work, because the Defy has no gyroscope (needed for PS to work properly), but any device without gyroscope which has official 4.2 (if there are any) also won't be able to produce photo spheres either. Some other limitations go to the lack of up-to-date drivers, or because our devices don't have (officially) a 3.x kernel. But, as much as hardware and software (including the ones created by our always hardworking devs, like Quarx, Blechd0se and many others, without any help from Motorola - like the new WiFi drivers used in most of 4.1+ ROMs around here) allow, we do have 4.x on our devices. I'm not quite sure KitKat will be available because the Defy is kinda old now (almost on its 3rd birthday party), and many devs prefer to focus their work on devices with better official support and newer ones with hardware able to handle all the new features being introduced by each version, but we can always have hope.
You can be sure Motorola won't provide any new updates to your Defy, but the independent devs community will give you some support while they can.

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Thanks for the reply. I understand that even though I really don't want to let go of my Defy - since I believe I'm one of the few who had this since it's launch - it will be topped off by some new phone with better hardware.

I was just concerned about apps that need 4.X to work. Like this one --- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282900

I'm actually okay with the ROM that I'm using, (CM7.2.0-RC0-Defy-KANG) but of course, if it so happens that I need to update it just for the sake of using 4.X apps, then I'm willing to give it a shot.

 

[dacecar]

Build is up. Check my skydrive folder. Data and cache will work only with ext3.

Rom is a mix of quarx and epsylons cm9 source, 2nd-boot from cm10.1 and kernel from MS2Ginger.

Hello @walter79
I took some time using your cm9.1 rom and it works really well
have you thought of doing any update?
greetings and thanks in advance

 

[prashob131]

I need a Rom with good battery backup...which one should i choose cm9.1 or cm 10 ? or any other ? someone please reply...

Currently on whiteRabbit getting good battery backup but some apps needs ICS+