I'm throwing a party and you should come **GS5 ROOT THREAD**

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windstrings

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Except there was a notice posted of what the 'changes' were going to be, and you didn't even update the OS to 4.4.3 or whatever.
Sigh... there are so many notices to say nothing of some people having other demands on their lives than nearly memorizing multiple forums' posts... talk about low S/N ratio....

It was the kernel, and yes, developed by VZW to squash Towelroot, but it failed, because you can still keep root with the new 'OTA'.. There's a couple threads on it around here.
"Keep root" meaning towelroot rooting or the NGC NE9 ODIN dance or something different? There are far too many competing sources of "notices". See above re: low S/N ratios.
 

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Yep, IMO it's irresponsible to recommend doing an OTA after tw...
Having the same bad Council here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54696303

They gonna be there to fix the mess?
No.. Nor do they care.... That's bannable stuff!
Please show me where I recommended taking the OTA. All I did was answer his questions about the OTA breaking root and confirmed there is a workaround to reroot with towelroot. I then suggested he thank muniz_ri for his work. Whether or not he decides to accept the OTA is entirely up to him. There may be things in the OTA that are important to him. Or he may not want to go through the process of freezing sdm 1.0. I agree that people who want to root and ROM should not take OTAs, but it's entirely his choice what he does or does not do with his phone. And you think I should be banned for that?
 
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Has anyone read the blackhat news about most of devices with unlocking the bootloader are am i late

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Haven't heard about this yet....
Also, in other news.
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Geohot will not be releasing any further updates. He is now working for Google to find and patch these and other exploits in not just Android code, but anything computer based that touches the internet.
 

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Sigh... there are so many notices to say nothing of some people having other demands on their lives than nearly memorizing multiple forums' posts... talk about low S/N ratio....



"Keep root" meaning towelroot rooting or the NGC NE9 ODIN dance or something different? There are far too many competing sources of "notices". See above re: low S/N ratios.
You really need to explain, the next guy will read your post and think it's safe but the next ota won't miss.
 

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I'm not sure who the above was intended for but...

1) Installed towelroot in mid-June

2) VZW pushes a big OTA upgrade. (late June or sometime in early July).

3) Installed OTA for the upgrade.

4) Reinstalled towelroot successfully.

5) VZW pushes The OTA That Broke Towelroot

6) Dumb call: remembering 3&4 above, I took TOTBT.

7) Bang head on wall repeatedly.

OK, that's what I did. If anyone else did that, I sure didn't say do it. And I damn sure am not saying it now!

What has me puzzled is:
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[...]but the next ota won't miss.
Is there a way to use towelroot again with TOTBT? I really think I'm indulging in wishful thinking but...
 

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I just meant dodging a bullet once means in the game of Russian roulette now the odds are higher you won't the next time... Meaning the more time that passes after can exploit is found, the more likely the patches will catch up and be released.

This far down the road from TR being released "or rather finding the exploit" it's next to suicide "Russian roulette" to keep trying ota updates.

Any benifits gained are gone if you now have to go backwards and learn how to root the old fashioned way because that update is gone too "to get back where you can root again".

We are not good stewards to just haphazardly say go ahead and do an OTA update unless we know they are not a novice..... But 9 times out if 10 they are a novice or they wouldn't even be asking such a basic question. ?
 

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I see your point and, had I screwed my head on straight, would have waited on the latest OTA for the reasons you cite.

Um, being pedantic, the only time the odds in Russian Roulette change is when the round goes off. Otherwise, assuming a six-shot cylinder, the odds remain 1 in 6 you won't survive your turn even after 5 spins of the cylinder. Once the gun goes off, odds improve to 0 in 6 you'll lose. Unless it's spin once, I pull the trigger, you pull the trigger and repeat, with a double action revolver. The odds change with every pull of the trigger. But you knew that... ;)
 

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Help .-.

This doesn't work on T-Mobile ' Note 3 .-. It says "this device is not supported" please fix it .-.
if it help I have:
Model Number: SM - N900T
Android Version: 4.4.2
Baseband Version: N900TUVUDNF4
Kernel Version: 3.4.0-22717132
Security Software Version: MDF v1.0 Release 3

PLEASE FIX THIS!! D': I have been waiting so long for an app to root this phone now I find one and it's not compatible with my phone :'(
 

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Read back in the thread a few pages - 1) GeoHot works for Google now. Hired to find and close exploits like the one towelroot used to root devices; 2) towelroot used a specific vulnerability in kernels dated before June 3. If your kernel is dated after June 3, the vulnerability has been patched and there is nothing GeoHot can "fix" to make towelroot work on your device; and related to that 3) either your phone has the vulnerability or it doesn't and towelroot either works to root your device or it doesn't and there is nothing GeoHot can do to fix towelroot to make it work for your device. Plus, like I said before GeoHot works for Google now so he can't create programs or apps that root phones by exploiting vulnerabilities he is supposed to now be fixing. Now that this same question has been answered for the 1,000,000th time in this thread, can we please get it closed?
 

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Read back in the thread a few pages - 1) GeoHot works for Google now. Hired to find and close exploits like the one towelroot used to root devices; 2) towelroot used a specific vulnerability in kernels dated before June 3. If your kernel is dated after June 3, the vulnerability has been patched and there is nothing GeoHot can "fix" to make towelroot work on your device; and related to that 3) either your phone has the vulnerability or it doesn't and towelroot either works to root your device or it doesn't and there is nothing GeoHot can do to fix towelroot to make it work for your device. Plus, like I said before GeoHot works for Google now so he can't create programs or apps that root phones by exploiting vulnerabilities he is supposed to now be fixing. Now that this same question has been answered for the 1,000,000th time in this thread, can we please get it closed?
Sorry I don't keep up with this much, I didn't know any of that, so then is there anyway you know of to like downgrade anything on my phone to make it work?
 
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Sorry I don't keep up with this much, I didn't know any of that, so then is there anyway you know of to like downgrade anything on my phone to make it work?
That's a question that is probably best asked in the T-Mobile note 3 section. You have a much better chance of getting an answer to your question there than here in the Verizon S5 section.
 
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