InDashNet Octa Core Lollipop Head Units Info Thread

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rubenjavier

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I've been in contact with Tomas from IndashNet regarding the lack of info from his units on the web, and I gave him a series of questions that I think many here wanted answered

What we know so far about the units from the site and Q&A:
CPU: Octa Core A7 (Allwinner A83/T8 series)
GPU: PowerVR SGX 544MP up to 700MHz
RAM: 2GB DDR3
Flash: 16GB eMMc
Internet: WCDMA HSPA / CDMA EVDO via USB
DVD: Optional
Radio: AM/FM
GPS: Yes Built In
Bluetooth: Yes
WiFi: Yes
DVR: USB Camera
Size: 2 Din
Rear View Camera: Yes, camera work immediatly start up (before Android fully boots up)
Car Audio: 4x25W
RCA's pre-amp voltage of the RCAs:​~2.5V​.
Steering Wheel Control: Optional
Screen: 800x600/1024x600 6.2-10.1 inches (New Extended Info: 7,8,9,10.1 inches will be 1024*600. 6.2 inches not now.)
Touch panel: Multitouch
OS: Android 4.4.4 - 5.1.1 in 2016 (apparently April 2016)
Video: 1080p, MP4, H264, WMV, AVI, RM,RMVB, VOB nd more
Audio: MP3, WMA, WAV and more
WEB: flash supported
Google GMS: Yes
Google Play: Yes
Voice Control: Yes
Bluetooth HFP
Bluetooth PBAP
Bluetooth A2DP (AVRCP 1.5 song info, AVRCP 1.6 song info + cover artwork possible with future sw update)
Screen Mirroring (Android & iOS devices)
GPS Audio Mixing: Audio Mixing with Radio/Audio Player/Video Player/AUX input in the latest version

The questions:

Q.-What is the exact CPU used on the new Octa Cores?
A.-​Allwinner A83/T8 series

Q.-What is the exact android version of Lollipop you are using right now? 5.1,? 5.1.1?
​A.-5.1.1​

Q.-The small octa core units of 7 inches can have a 1024x600 resolution?
​A.-Yes.
*(New Extended Info: 7,8,9,10.1 inches will be 1024*600. 6.2 inches not now.)

Q.-besides the embedded mic, does it has a secondary mic that you can place somewhere else? (usually android units have a lot of noise with a secondary mic overlaping with the embedded one, the best is to use the embedded for noise cancelling like in mobile phones)
​A.-Yes. External MIC is there.
*follow up question
Q.-When two mics are connected (internal and external), the internal is for noise cancelling?, the internal is turned off?, the internal and the external are both turned on?
​A.-Internal could be for noise cancelling but not yet.

Q.-how about the Buetooth? are the contacts shared from the phone like a regular radio with BT? or it can use the contacts from your android account?
​A.-Currently inside BT. ​but call from android contact can be done in future by SW update.

Q.-can you use steering wheels controls to call?
A.-​Yes.

Q.-can you use steering wheels controls to see contacts to call them?
​A.-No.​
*follow up question
Q.-When you said that you can Not use steering whhel controls see contacts and call them, are you talking about google contacts?, or are you talking about Bluetooth phone contacts? (usually when connected the phone by bluetoot you can see bluetooth phone contacts, select them and call them)
A.-I mean that we didn't provide call from Google contacts. You can call from BT built-in phone contacts.

Q.-can you use steering wheels controls to answers calls?
​A.-Yes.

Q.- can you use steering wheels controls for music and radio?
​A.-Yes​

Q.- can you use parking sensors?
​A.-If you mean camera. Yes.​
*follow up question
Q.-When I asked about support for parking sensors, I was talking about the generic proximity sensors that all other android Head Units support, you can get them from aliexpress for exmple
this are the sensors that Roadnav and Joying use:
http://www.roadnavi.com/product/crs8500v-parking-radar-for-car-dvd-w-4-sensors/
A.-​Not there now.

Q.-when you stream music from your mobile using bluetooth, the tracks have its info AND artwork(AVRCP 1.6)? or just the track info in text(AVRCP 1.5)?
​A.-No info. can be update by SW.
*follow up question
Q.-Right now you tell me that using A2DP we can get an update on the future to support AVRCP 1.6 (song info + cover artwork readed from the music file), what can we see about the song on the screen right now when we stream music with Bluetooth using A2DP from the phone?
A.-​Song info. Soon in Apr release.

Q.-can you play FLAC music files over A2DP?
​A.-Yes​

Q.-can you change the boot animation from a menu?, select a car brand symbol or something?
​A.-Yes​

Q.-can you set how long the unit stay in sleep mode when you turn off the car?
​A.-can be update by SW later

Q.- are you going to publish the lollipop source code like you did with kit kat?
A.-​We hope so. but need to make everything work stable.​

Q.-Do you support screen mirroring from android phone to the screen? (like joying)
A.-​Yes. Exactly the same.

Q.-Do you support screen mirroring from iphone to the screen? (like joying)
​​A.-Yes. Exactly the same.

Q.-What is the pre-amp voltage of the RCAs?
A.-​~2.5V​.

Q.-Will reverse camera work from immediate start up (before Android fully boots up)?
​A.-Immediate​

Q.-Any information on the FM radio chip?
​A.-There several options from ST to NXP.
(need to get back to this question, to get a list of the options available at this time)

Q.-Any information on 3G (or 4G) dongle compatibility?
A.-20+ 3G​ dongles are working(UMTS/HSPA, EVDO).
(need to get back to this question, to get a list of the options available at this time, and about 4G dongles)

Q.-What canbus features will work with the dedicated Audi car model units? caller ID in DIS
​A.-Canbus need longer time to confirm.​
(I also asked about my Peugeot 307 CAN BUS integration, giving him the model/year of the car, and a couple of CANBUS decoders that works with other HU from the people at connects2, and he said he'll look in to it and get back to me next week)

Q.-Can it Mix Audio Sources with GPS
A.-In the latest version it can Mix Audio with Radio/Audio Player/Video Player/AUX input


They have also released screenshots of the new Android Lollipop Interface:
https://plus.google.com/photos/1124...970&ssid=f3521e60-8bd3-4bc9-b52a-5b0c23583714

And here is the video of the new Lollipop Hed Units boot up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCodlTmwQjw

Here its a video of the Unit working with Lollipop 5.1.1 and Playstore, credits goes to touchpt12 for the moded image and video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-twzN2Zfpbc&feature=youtu.be

This is what I've got so far, if somebody has more info, videos, photos, experiences, please share them
Also if anyone has other questions or ideas, lets put it all in this thread to contact Thoms from InDashNet and send them to him

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*****PHOTOS*****

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***Generic 2DIN Model:
(there are other manufacturer specific models)

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*****Android Auto on Lollipop 5.1.1 img:

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*****Lollipop 5.1.1 interface:

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rubenjavier

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Resources

InDashNet G+ Community
https://plus.google.com/communities/115500164891031633970

InDashNet Octa Core Head Unit Official Developer's Guide
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Nj9XViGv_6UFRUbE42YndlOW8/view?pref=2&pli=1

InDashNet Octa Core Head Unit Official SW & Tools repository
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8Nj9XViGv_6TkpERXRJcnNjRFk&usp=drive_web#list
(this repository already contains instructions and Android 5.1.1 images with Playstore for Head Units with 1024 and 800 resolutions)

***************************************************************************************************
OK guys, we have root :D :D :D :D :D :D
this is what I did
.-went to InDashNet Octa Core Head Unit Official SW & Tools repository
.-downloaded update.apk
.-downloaded root_update.zip
.-installed update.apk (turns out this wasnt necessary for my developer unit, since developer units already have this update.apk)
.-TURNED OFF WIFI (very important)
.-opened update app
.-update app complains about no network and activate a button to find update zip locally
.-navigate to root_update.zip and select it
.-automatic restart and automatic install of SuperSU
.-go to apps and open SuperSU
.-accept the update request from SuperSU and restart
.-after restart, SuperSU sends a notification in the bar requesting another update and restart... accept that too
.-after restart, go to apps and open Es File Explorer... go to menu, Tools, activate root and accept the permission request
.-navigate to the root folder as root user and delete everything, then reflash because you just broke your unit (JUST KIDDING DONT DO THIS)

...now you are master of your domain
enjoy
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(obsolete) InDashNet Android 4.4.4 github source
https://github.com/indashnet/InDashNet.Open.UN2000

(obsolete) Android 5.1.1 Lollipop test version image with working Play Store (April 17 2016), credit to touchpt12
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24499762636001953

(obsolete) Android 5.1.1 Lollipop test version image (April 10 2016), credit to CompletelyNumb
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B8Nj9XViGv_6MHh5cEdydkE3NjQ

(obsolete) Useful links, Credit to touchpt12
(obsolete) Android 4.4 Image (March 2016 Update):
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=53783

(obsolete) Tools (to update head unit and extract the .img file):
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=53785

(obsolete) All Updates Provided By Thomas:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=53787

(obsolete) APK (folder of apps that may be useful):
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=53784
 
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swyner

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awesome start. Thanks bud. Can you add to your questions: 1) what is the pre-amp voltage of the RCAs? 2) will reverse camera work from immediate start up (ie before Android fully boots up)? 3) any information on the FM radio chip? I would like to ensure it's of high quality. 4) Any information on 3G (or 4G) dongle compatibility? This is very hit or miss with all android units. 5) What canbus stuff will work with the dedicated car model units? caller ID in DIS (ie in Audi), climate control info on Android unit, etc

Thanks
 
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touchpt12

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Thanks rubenjavier for putting this forum up. I was going to start a software repository for any files that Thomas provides on the Indashnet Google page (and others). Will compile everything and post a link when I am done.
 

rubenjavier

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@swyner
Sure, I'll add them to the next batch of questions, I've also informed Thomas that we have this thread now for questions and ideas from the community
@touchpt12
That would be great, I think that this units could provide an oportunity to really own your hardware and have great customization in looks and funtionality... lets show Thomas and InDashNet that the interest is real, so we can get an updated repository with lollipop
with the help of the community we can add more CAN BUS vehicles to the officialy supported list of the site, it would be a win-win situation
 
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CompletelyNumb

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Just to note, there is a plug in for an external mic, it is not included. In case the answer was vague to anyone.

The unit also has an adapter for two USB ports only, and wifi is not internal, it is supplied as a USB dongle, so you effectively only have one USB port. there is a second pin connector labelled as "Rear USB", but the HU didn't come with anything to plug in there. None of the factory cut ports in the rear have electronics in them, all are supplied via pin connectors. I'll upload pics tomorrow.

---------- Post added at 06:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:32 PM ----------

The 5.1 update was also released today. I'll be doing a fresh install of it tomorrow.
 

Flemischguy

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Just to note, there is a plug in for an external mic, it is not included. In case the answer was vague to anyone.

The unit also has an adapter for two USB ports only, and wifi is not internal, it is supplied as a USB dongle, so you effectively only have one USB port. there is a second pin connector labelled as "Rear USB", but the HU didn't come with anything to plug in there. None of the factory cut ports in the rear have electronics in them, all are supplied via pin connectors. I'll upload pics tomorrow.

---------- Post added at 06:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:32 PM ----------

The 5.1 update was also released today. I'll be doing a fresh install of it tomorrow.


It is a good thought to have a external wifi dongle, because the internal wifi reception is very very weak in a lot of Android units, but will it mean that you can hook up an 2.4/5.0 ghz ac wifi usb dongle on that device?
 

touchpt12

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Just to note, there is a plug in for an external mic, it is not included. In case the answer was vague to anyone.

The unit also has an adapter for two USB ports only, and wifi is not internal, it is supplied as a USB dongle, so you effectively only have one USB port. there is a second pin connector labelled as "Rear USB", but the HU didn't come with anything to plug in there. None of the factory cut ports in the rear have electronics in them, all are supplied via pin connectors. I'll upload pics tomorrow.

---------- Post added at 06:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:32 PM ----------

The 5.1 update was also released today. I'll be doing a fresh install of it tomorrow.

Where did you see the 5.1 update? Please provide the link so that it can be shared on the forum... thanks.
 

touchpt12

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rubenjavier

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Thomas emailed it to me yesterday. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8Nj9XViGv_6Z3lOUWtTZE1Qczg

---------- Post added at 10:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:13 AM ----------

Pictures: http://imgur.com/a/qOpDU

Thanks for the awesome photos,
for the look of your CAB-BUS box maybe I can get one from roadnavi for my Peugeot 307 (right now is not on the list from InDashNet) and it could work
this is the roadnavi box (selecting model C017)
http://www.roadnavi.com/product/can-bus-decoder-for-roadnavi-s90-s100-s150-s160/
can you compare your CAN BUS box with those?

One question: did you requested a Unit for a specific car model/rach? which one?

did you mind if I add later your pictures to the info post?
Thanks
 

rubenjavier

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HERE ARE SOME USEFUL LINKS FOR OUR HEADUNITS:

Android 4.4 Image (March 2016 Update):
http://www.mediafire.com/download/v41izwq49imlrx7/ZX8802_V3.00IB_PV5R0050.img.zip

Tools (to update head unit and extract the .img file):
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pctoz2tl7htw7/Tools

All Updates Provided By Thomas:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ljlan39lqjxvq/Updates

APK (folder of apps that may be useful):
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/on35ahvrkc1pf/APK

Thanks man!!!, awesome share
did you mind if I put the links on the info section, or the second post, to have a resources place
with credits to you?
 

transitoyspace

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rubenjavier

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update is for some of his apps I believe. 69mb only. Changelog just states "app only"
So if its true and Thomas claims its Lollipop, then its just like the rest of the "lollipop android head units". Nothing but a modified Kit Kat.

I checked the zip, and this are just new versions of the stock apps and launcher
apps like BT, DVD, Music, File Explorer, Aux cam, etc., not even the new boot animation
I dont think the lollipop version is even on a public repository yet, with some luck, sometime this month
 

transitoyspace

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I checked the zip, and this are just new versions of the stock apps and launcher
apps like BT, DVD, Music, File Explorer, Aux cam, etc., not even the new boot animation
I dont think the lollipop version is even on a public repository yet, with some luck, sometime this month

i looked at the video alot. I kinda have a feeling its a video playing vs real thing.
The compression on the screen vs his iphone in the video are off. (a composited video would explain different compression artifacts)
 

swyner

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What bugs me is apparently the user was "told" 5.1 was ready for download and it was not at all. Maybe miscommunication but a little worrisome. And where is Thomas now? I would think he could get on here and clear the air to start people trusting him.
 

CompletelyNumb

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I'll email him back, could be a miscommunication. I asked specifically when the software would be updated, and he replied with that. I meant lollipop, but the language barrier may have interfered with that.
 

CompletelyNumb

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Installed it in the truck today, but couldn't get the software loaded. Seems the supplied software doesn't work. DragonFace doesn't recognize the IMG file, and PhoenixCard says it's writing properly but the card is always empty.

I'll try again tomorrow with another disk imaging program, and failing that create my own image from the source.
 

rubenjavier

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Got somemore answers from Thomas, including CPU and lollipop version, I'll put them here and also update the first post with the info

Q.-What is the exact CPU used on the new Octa Cores?
A.-​Allwinner A83/T8 series ​

Q.-What is the exact android version of Lollipop you are using right now? 5.1,? 5.1.1?
​A.-5.1.1​

Q.-When two mics are connected (internal and external), the internal is for noise cancelling?, the internal is turned off?, the internal and the external are both turned on?
​A.-Internal could be for noise cancelling but not yet.

Q.-When you said that you can Not use steering whhel controls see contacts and call them, are you talking about google contacts?, or are you talking about Bluetooth phone contacts? (usually when connected the phone by bluetoot you can see bluetooth phone contacts, select them and call them)
A.-I mean that we didn't provide call from Google contacts. You can call from BT built-in phone contacts.

Q.-When I asked about support for parking sensors, I was talking about the generic proximity sensors that all other android Head Units support, you can get them from aliexpress for exmple
this are the sensors that Roadnav and Joying use:
http://www.roadnavi.com/product/crs8500v-parking-radar-for-car-dvd-w-4-sensors/
A.-​Not there now.

Q.-Right now you tell me that using A2DP we can get an update on the future to support AVRCP 1.6 (song info + cover artwork readed from the music file), what can we see about the song on the screen right now when we stream music with Bluetooth using A2DP from the phone?
A.-​Song info. Soon in Apr release.

Q.-Do you support screen mirroring from android phone to the screen? (like joying)
A.-​Yes. Exactly the same.

Q.-Do you support screen mirroring from iphone to the screen? (like joying)
​​A.-Yes. Exactly the same.
 

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    Just heard from Thomas. New update will be released this week addressing many of the issues noted in the log. I hope he provides a change log but he confirmed after this release, he will be moving is efforts to the Google Music and Apple Music issues. Awesome!!
    4
    Thanks man, definitely something I need to look at. This could also explain the frequent 'Optimizing apps' dialog I get, makes me believe it boots with a cleared cache partition if it does. In the meantime, I sincerely hope the Radio-Back-Button-issue is resolved soon, it drives me crazy! :silly:

    A quick cure version is coming to remove the 'evil back' function. :) Also the mode/mix audio will be removed.
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    Hi all,

    Just got a reply from Thomas on the G+ page about some documentation for the OctaCore Developer unit. Here is the literal quote:
    All documents, tools and SW update will be released here:

    goo.gl/ROAT9A

    "Developer Guide" is also uploaded there.
    direct acess: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Nj9XViGv_6UFRUbE42YndlOW8/view

    For Developer Edition:
    1) No need to get into recovery as in normal booting mode, you can directly push any software into unit by ADB(with root user/right by default).
    2) Best way of re-flash IMG is by PhoenixSuit via USB device(same one of ADB).
    3) If you want to release your IMG, please test it by adb. Then pack your modification by IMG tool Dragonface.

    ! If your unit is coming with canbus box, you may need to get into factory setting after full IMG re-flash.

    I pointed Thomas to XDA, but he seems to use the G+ community for his communications. He wants to create one post that he will update with new information, so we can make a deeplink.
    So in the meantime, go and have a look on his Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8Nj9XViGv_6TkpERXRJcnNjRFk&usp=drive_web#list
    @rubenjavier, can you update the first post again? Thanks!
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    do you get root user right of adb? If yes, you don't need recovery, fastboot etc.
    1) If some thing wrong, you can always re-flash full IMG via USB device/slave to get system back.
    2) Once you get system back, play with adb with root user right is much easier(adb push, adb install).
    3) You can pack your own IMG with the tool DragonFace.



    I just got my developers unit and had a chance to try out a few things, but have managed to get it stuck in an infinite boot cycle trying to 'optimize apps' when trying to install the amazon marketplace. I'd like to reflash with the image that includes play services linked on the top post but not sure how to get it into recovery mode. Any advice would be great. Thanks in advance!

    ---------- Post added at 02:50 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:58 AM ----------

    Ok, I managed to get it into fastboot mode using adb reboot bootloader and I can see the device with the fastboot command. Which partition is ZX8802-51_V3.00IB_PV5R0058_EN.img supposed to be flashed to? I havent had to do this in a while and remember doing it with an update.zip to flashall or having a complete set of img file for the bootloader and radio.

    Help! my unit wont boot, just as I was beginning to have some fun.
    3
    Well from what I can see the unit looks promising in its stage. In eager to replace my newsmy and it's so hard not to jump in on the sale they have going on. I'm just a little concerned with the overall development & the FM signal issues. If it's bad in a GM product then it's going to be horrible in my vw with their antenna setup.

    Plus I've asked in-dash (not sure who's answering the emails) a couple questions regarding the canbus and the answers haven't been the best. Not really wanting to spend another $600cdn on a radio and find out it's worse then my half functioning newsmy.

    Anyone out there with one of these units using it as a daily commuter device? Can they shine some light on the questions I've asked?

    Sent from my LG-D852 using Tapatalk

    Exactly...I have an Audi so I share your concerns with the FM radio reception issues.....it's so frustrating that we as consumers value flashy, bells and whistles, CPU, RAM, OS versions that really do not help a CAR STEREO perform the basic functions first. Not blaming the manufacturers since they just make what the masses want....in this case a "cheaper" car stereo that pretends to be a tablet so you can surf the internet, play games and do all these fancy things while driving (not). There are a few sellers out there (Tommy from AVIN) that actually know what I am talking about and spend time optimizing the Android based head unit for it's core functions of playing music, providing GPS. They also understand that choosing proper hardware first is key....you can do all you want to the software but if the damn FM radio chip is garbage, it won't ever work.
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