[info] Basic Informations about HOX, sense and the universe

[ChriKn]

Hy community,
I once was a newbie on XDA (and still am ^^), but with the time I understood more and more things, now I want to give back and condensate the Information I got to answer questions I see often in multiple threads.
there are more and more questions about sense and roms and SOFF and if your phone can control your mind if you take an image of a brain as your wallpaper...

So here is the
officially unofficial "Question's you better not ask"
thread.​

Feel free to add your 2 cents in the comments, I will try to keep this updated with your ideas

The goal of this thread is to inform the users, in order to avoid them asking those things and getting angry answers or blocking real dev work on threads.

Does this AOKP/CM9/AOSP Rom have sense ? :silly:

No ! It's like if you were asking if Linux has windows in it, if a Ferrari has a Dacia in it...

Explanation : Sense is a framework, it's like wrapped over the android OS. AOKP/AOSP/CM9 based roms are free of this framework and based on the original google android source code.
In the same idea, a sense rom doesn't contain CM9, but you can make it look like with themes or a "de-sensing".

For this exact reason, you need to wipe your phone before installing a non-sense rom over a sense one (or the other side) (even if you should wipe when going from one rom to another, sense or not.

Does this AOKP/CM9/AOSP rom contain the sense cam

No, It has to do with what is written in the first explanation.

Explanation : Most sense apps and widgets are linked to the sense framework, some more, some less, making it theoretically possible to port those apps to a fully sense framework free environement. However, the camera is solidely attached to the framework, it may be possible, but don't hope for it soon

Can I flash the boot.img from "rom A" on "rom B" ?

And still the answer is : NO ! you will end in a bootloop.

Explanation : The Boot.img contains many stuff like kernel, ramdisk... and this ramdisk is different for most of the rom's and a boot.img will only fully work with an adequate ramdisk.

However, you can repack the kernell with the zImage tool which is to be found in the forums.

Can I flash the modules of Kernel A while using Kernel B ?

Get used to it: no...

A specific module is for a specific Kernel. The end.

What is a RUU ?

the RUU (ROM UPDATE UTILITY)
its pretty much a FACTORY RESET master file, as it resets everything HBOOT/RADIO/ROM. (thanks bagofcrap24)

Hope I could help some of you
It's open to you to contribute to the community and help the once which have less knowledge than you
Cheers

 

[Laurentius26]

Waist

It's obvious you've spend 'a lot' of time with the intro of this thread.
But all you write is old news as all is written already, 'instructions enough'.
To my opinion this thread won't help anybody because people who don't like to read won't read anyway,
so this thread is another clutter, nothing more to my opinion as it don't bring anything new.

Mods please close?

Thanks!

 

[ChriKn]

It's obvious you've spend 'a lot' of time with the intro of this thread.
But all you write is old news as all is written already, 'instructions enough'.
To my opinion this thread won't help anybody because people who don't like to read won't read anyway,
so this thread is another clutter, nothing more to my opinion as it don't bring anything new.

Mods please close?

Thanks!

When I started on XDA I was searching for a recap like this, people not wanting to read throught hundreds of pages of a well-filled thread is not meaning they won't read a recapitulative thread...

Is a post trying to help others such a pain for you ? If this can help one person and avoid a single useless post on a single thread I will be more than happy.

I hope you can revise your judgment...

 

[Laurentius26]

You just created a extra thread, nope I won't revise my statement.
Probably you have good intensions, but to my opinion this thread is clutter and a waist.

When I started on XDA I was searching for a recap like this, people not wanting to read throught hundreds of pages of a well-filled thread is not meaning they won't read a recapitulative thread...

Is a post trying to help others such a pain for you ? If this can help one person and avoid a single useless post on a single thread I will be more than happy.

I hope you can revise your judgment...

 

[ChriKn]

You just created a extra thread, nope I won't revise my statement.
Probably you have good intensions, but to my opinion this thread is clutter and a waist.

The fact that you see I have good intensions is enough for me

 

[BarryH_GEG]

It's obvious you've spend 'a lot' of time with the intro of this thread.
But all you write is old news as all is written already, 'instructions enough'.
To my opinion this thread won't help anybody because people who don't like to read won't read anyway,
so this thread is another clutter, nothing more to my opinion as it don't bring anything new.

Mods please close?

Thanks!

I agree. This is the strangest forum I've participated in on XDA. Here's some personality categories I’ve observed.

* Narcissist’s - in spite of a topic or point being posted multiple times in an already open thread, people feel that they're experiencing of an issue is somehow more important than anyone/everyone else's. They have no problem starting a new thread saying "I know this has been posted before, but..." Hint: before you post, ask yourself are you posting for the benefit of others or for yourself?

* Newbies with Attitudes - Not picking on this user in particular but this is an excellent example.

I am totally furious about the fact that HTC released an ICS phone with a GB kernel. Sorry if it sounds negative but this is plain deception, and disrespect to its base of customers. Other vendors without mentioning the name has released their phone with a decent ICS kernel.

Not only is it naive, it's wrong. Had it been posted as a question "what's the difference between the 2.X and 3.X kernel?" the poster would have realized s/he's uninformed. Hint: instead of coming out with both guns blazing, ask a question rather than making a statement if you're not sure about what you're talking about.

* Martyrs - Yes, the One X has launch issues. More than it should. They're all well known by now. Similar to the narcissists, the martyrs relish reiterating the same complaints amongst themselves in page after page in a thread. Hint: No one here can help you. Rather than ***** pointlessly figure out how to get your problem resolved. I'm not having any problems but it took me all of five minutes to find the two most senior HTC execs in Europe that oversee customer service so those with issues could have someone to write to and seek help. Hint: Don't just post "bitches," post potential remedies.

There are other personality categories unique to the One X forum but you get my point. I love my One X but sure wish it came with SGS3 forum.

 

[mathijs727]

Can someone please tell me what a ruu is?
I'm used to Samsung devices.

Verstuurd van mijn HTC One X met Tapatalk

 

[Laurentius26]

Google it, but I understand that's hard for you if you always used Sumsung.

Can someone please tell me what a ruu is?
I'm used to Samsung devices.

Verstuurd van mijn HTC One X met Tapatalk

 

[Alex240188]

Can someone please tell me what a ruu is?
I'm used to Samsung devices.

Verstuurd van mijn HTC One X met Tapatalk

the RUU (ROM UPDATE UTILITY)
its pretty much a FACTORY RESET master file
as in it resets everything HBOOT/RADIO/ROM

the closest equivelent i can think of is like ODIN for samsung
you download the latest RUU for your phone
in my case generic (ruu_endeavor_u_ics_40_htc_europe_1.29.401.11_radio_1.1204.105.14_release_260491_signed_c9d22.exe)
plug your oneX in and run it, it will fully return your phone to stock

 

[ChriKn]

Can someone please tell me what a ruu is?
I'm used to Samsung devices.

Verstuurd van mijn HTC One X met Tapatalk

A RUU is the full ROM installation utility from HTC, using it will fully reset your phone to the same state when you bought it (only thing it won't change is the fact your phone is locked/unlocked if I remember well), can't tell you what it wouldb be in Samsung-land ut probably samsungs Odin flashable base rom.

Hope I could help

"burned" ^^

 

[Laurentius26]

Sweet. :cyclops: ^^

Hopefully when this thread has 56 pages people still bother to find the time to have a search about the answers.
And remember if you just search the word >> 'RUU'...... (top right corner of XDA )

But your time and effort is much appriciated I ques.

Time for me to live this thread it's own live and 'unscribe' as I'm getting nuts of the notifications already.

the RUU (ROM UPDATE UTILITY)
its pretty much a FACTORY RESET master file
as in it resets everything HBOOT/RADIO/ROM

the closest equivelent i can think of is like ODIN for samsung
you download the latest RUU for your phone
in my case generic (ruu_endeavor_u_ics_40_htc_europe_1.29.401.11_radio_1.1204.105.14_release_260491_signed_c9d22.exe)
plug your oneX in and run it, it will fully return your phone to stock

A RUU is the full ROM installation utility from HTC, using it will fully reset your phone to the same state when you bought it (only thing it won't change is the fact your phone is locked/unlocked if I remember well), can't tell you what it wouldb be in Samsung-land ut probably samsungs Odin flashable base rom.

Hope I could help

"burned" ^^

 

[ChriKn]

Sweet. :cyclops: ^^

Hopefully when this thread has 56 pages people still bother to find the time to have a search about the answers.
And remember if you just search the word >> 'RUU'...... (top right corner of XDA )

But your time and effort is much appriciated I ques.

Time for me to live this thread it's own live and 'unscribe' as I'm getting nuts of the notifications already.

Lords and Lady's, let me present you the angry person not even trying to see that the OP has been updated with the new question and answers.
Clap clap for his herpaderp !

Now please, let people decide themselves if they want to help each other and go kill some ants in your backyard, you need to cool down a bit...

 

[Laurentius26]

I'm not angry and I don't need to cool down but thank you!
Please, go read back and tell me what you learned from this thread?

Lords and Lady's, let me present you the angry person not even trying to see that the OP has been updated with the new answers.
Clap clap for his herpaderp !

 

[ChriKn]

I'm not angry, thank you!
Please, go read back and tell me what you learned from this thread?

That it seems to be your pleasure to ruin an effort to help people which might not be as well informed as you are, to criticize without any reasons they way I spend my free time trying to help (even if I only can offer a bit).

Go on, say what you want, my part of this discussion is done and I'm really sorry for this thread to have become such a mess because of one single person.

 

[Laurentius26]

Nope I'm not trying to ruin an effort, I'm just trying to make a point clear.
I already told the Op that I understand his effort.

That it seems to be your pleasure to ruin an effort to help people which might not be as well informed as you are, to criticize without any reasons they way I spend my free time trying to help (even if I only can offer a bit).

Go on, say what you want, my part of this discussion is done and I'm really sorry for this thread to have become such a mess because of one single person.

 

[BarryH_GEG]

That it seems to be your pleasure to ruin an effort to help people .

I find this especially galling considering that between us Laurentius26 and I have 1,600 "thanks" and you have a whopping 16. Your heart is in the right place, your approach needs work.

 

[ShyamSasi]

This might help new users to get them started @ XDA

To OP: Good work mate .. This is how most of us started

 

[orb3000]

Closing thread as we have already guides with the same topics you kindly posted here.
Besides going off topic