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Note 3 models/frequencies/forums and how to spot a FAKE / CLONE

This forum is about Samsung Note 3 and it is NOT about clones or fakes. Asking for support on clones and fakes in any of the Samsung Note 3 forums is unacceptable!

Asking how to spot the differences between fakes/clones and "the real thing" is however acceptable, but given the fact that we now see 2-3 posts like that every day it is really becoming a major nuisance, so let's keep all this in a single place and avoid repeating the exact same questions again and again.

There is also a Note 3 Neo (N750/N7505) which is somehow similar in design to the Note 3 but with only 2 GB RAM and 1280*720 screen - there is a separate forum for those models here!

PLEASE DO NOT START ANY OTHER THREAD ASKING FOR THE SAME THING AGAIN AND AGAIN!

If you have new information relevant or new questions please post under this thread!

Currently there are many REAL Note 3 devices from Samsung, including (but not necessarily limited to) SM-N900, SM-N900(various letters), SM-N9000(various letters), SM-N9002, SM-N9005, SM-N9006, SM-N9008, SM-N9009. So far the overwhelming majority of the original devices have 32GB internal flash but there seem to be some 16GB devices listed/sold by reputable sellers in the world, so that will not be a good test. Please also note that (as I write this) there are 4 OTHER official Note 3 forums on xda - see links in the table-like list below.

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[B]Samsung Exynos models[/B]

MODEL	NAME / MARKET					XDA/LINK

N900[B][COLOR="Blue"] [/COLOR][/B] 	Exynos Version International			[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3"]HERE[/URL]

N900[B][COLOR="Blue"]0Q[/COLOR][/B] 	Exynos Version Turkey				[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3"]HERE[/URL]

[B]Qualcomm Snapdragon models[/B]

MODEL	NAME / MARKET		XDA/LINK 	2G  |  3G  |  4G (LTE,MHz)

N900[B][COLOR="Blue"]5[/COLOR][/B] 	International LTE	[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3"]HERE[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
	EU N9005ZWE		[URL="http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/galaxy-note/smartphones/SM-N9005ZWEBTU-spec"]SamsungUK[/URL]	850/900/1900/2100
	HK N9005ZKA		[URL="http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consumer/mobile/mobile-phones/smartphone/SM-N9005ZKATGY-spec"]SamsungHK[/URL]	800/850/900/1800/2100/2600

N900[B][COLOR="blue"]W8[/COLOR][/B] 	Americas non-US LTE	[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3"]HERE[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
	Canada, Mexic				850/1900/2100
	('happy' bootloader)			700/1900/2100

N900[B][COLOR="blue"]T[/COLOR][/B] 	US T-Mobile LTE		[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile"]FORUM[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
						850/1700/1900/2100
						700/1700/2100
						
N900[B][COLOR="blue"]P[/COLOR][/B] 	US Sprint 4G		[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint"]FORUM[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
						1900/2100
						CDMA800/CDMA1900, LTE1900

N900[B][COLOR="blue"]A[/COLOR][/B] 	US AT&T LTE		[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att"]FORUM[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
	(locked bootloader)			850/900/1900/2100
						700/850/1700/1900/2100

N900[B][COLOR="blue"]V[/COLOR][/B] 	US Verizon 4G		[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3"]FORUM[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
	(locked bootloader)			850/900/1900/2100
						CDMA800/1900, LTE700/1700/2100

N900[B][COLOR="blue"]S[/COLOR][/B] 	South Korea SK Telecom 	[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484602"]THREAD[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
						850/900/1900/2100
						700/850/1800
						
N900[B][COLOR="blue"]K[/COLOR][/B] 	South Korea KT Telecom 	[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484602"]THREAD[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
						? 2100
						? 900/1800
						
N900[B][COLOR="blue"]S[/COLOR][/B] 	South Korea LGU+ 	[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484602"]THREAD[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
						?
						?
N900[B][COLOR="blue"]R4[/COLOR][/B] 	US Cellular	 	?		850/900/1800/1900
						850/900/1900/2100
					CDMA800/1900, LTE700/850/1700/1900/2100

N900[B][COLOR="blue"]2[/COLOR][/B] 	China		 	 [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2592252"]Thread[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
						850/900/1900/2100
						NO 4G but 2nd SIM

N900[B][COLOR="blue"]6[/COLOR][/B] 	China dual-SIM	 	[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495375"]Thread[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
						850/900/1900/2100
						NO 4G but 2nd SIM
						
N900[B][COLOR="blue"]7[/COLOR][/B] 	dual-SIM TD-LTE  	?		850/900/1800/1900
						850/900/1900/2100
			2nd SIM LTE2100 (B1), LTE850 (B5), LTE1800 (B3),
			LTE2600 (B7), LTE900 (B8), TD-LTE2600 (B38), TD-LTE2300 (B40)
						
N900[B][COLOR="blue"]9[/COLOR][/B] 	CDMA	 ?	 	?		?


The exact same letters CAN be found on some of the clones, so that is also not a good/definitive test.

Also some of the information displayed by system-information programs CAN BE FAKED - there are now clones that report 1920x1080 screens and 3GB RAM (which in itself should be a red flag since for instance an original N9005 should report around 2.38GB in RAM Manager, the rest being mapped to video/3D).

At this moment the best way to check if a phone is a clone/fake seems to be the SPen - the original Samsung pen is a device (similar/compatible with certain Wacom pens/digitizers) that is wireless-powered from about 10-20 mm away from screen of an original Note and on the home screen from about 10mm away the special pen hardware will provide a position (without any contact) and you will see a pointer and eventually some "hoover" actions; you can also press the special button on the side and you will get the special circular menu (aircommand). So far no clone has such a digitizer/pen. (the aircommand when you REMOVE the pen from the Note3 CAN be easily faked, since that one is another sensor that only feels when the pen was removed).

The other dead giveaway is the actual screen and screen resolution - some of the clones also fake the reported screen resolution as 1920x1080 but on the fakes when you take a screenshot (with a palm gesture or with Home+Power) that one does NOT come as 1920x1080 but instead as something like 1280x720 (other known clones have 960x540 or so).

Also if you are accustomed to the Samsung AMOLED screens you can immediately see the difference to the LCD or even IPS screens - outdoor is harder but indoor if you force the brightness from lowest to highest you immediately see the backlight on LCD/IPS screens and the pure black on the AMOLED.

Please also note that no Samsung Note 3 has any Mediatek processor like MTK6589 , MT6572 , MTK6572 or similar, so all those are fakes.

Apparently none of the clones (so far) have NFC and/or IR. Also the battery is smaller.

Also a very good test seems to be the presence of Odin/Download mode (from full power off with Volume Down + Home + Power) and Recovery mode (from full power off with Volume Up + Home + Power).


Here are some threads on some of those clones/fakes (inside you can see how hard is to tell just by looking at the device, and you might also find extra specific support if you have one of those devices):

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2460620

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549036

Somewhere around there are even videos with some of those devices.

EDIT:

There are already some other excellent posts added to this thread, thank you very much to all the users that have contributed!

I feel the need to add that most advice so far is for the cases when you can test the device in your hands, in case that is not possible please just use your good judgement and if it looks too good to be true chances are that it is a fake.

I have also seen another difference that you might be able to spot before opening the original box - the Samsung box has at least 2 (most often now 3 with the one on region-lock) stickers/seals applied in such a way that you can not open the box without cutting those. One of them on Samsung phones also has a copy of the IMEI - which I believe for most real Samsung phones starts with 35 or so. None of the fakes that I have seen (on videos) have any of those.

EDIT:
Thanks to user sap7e here we also have a picture with some of the more visible differences!
 
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Well you could also hook it in Kies and it should say the real model too.
Also the packaging on fakes usually look like a copy rather than the real deal.
3rd, if it sells for cheap and from an unknown seller it's probably a fake a well.
That's why all my phones come from the carrier

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gazeddy

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if play store works down load CPU-z and check the details

Try getting into download mode. all of them ive seen cant
 
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Play store has the app "Genuine Galaxy S4/Note 3". It will tell you if the note 3 you have is real... - http://www.appszoom.com/android_applications/tools/genuine-galaxy-s4note-3_dcdxs.html

Someone else provided a link for it outside the google play store...

Just be aware if xPrivacy is installed and limits the apps ability to read all the information it needs it will say the Note 3 is NOT GENUINE...
I have 2 not genuine BUT real Note 3's. Turn xPrivacy off and they are real..
 
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@OP, Ive made the thread a sticky for a short period of time, Ive left a not in your post 1 reference to others.

Thank you.
 
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My 3 steps of checking.....

1. I'm pretty sure the Wacom digitizer is not real on the fakes. So if you get a fake Note 3, your S-pen is most likely just a piece of plastic with a print of the button instead of a physical button.

2. Type *#0*#, if you see a button called "TSP Hover" then you are good to go, else: FAKE.

3. No Samsung logo? FAKE!

^_^
 
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My 3 steps of checking.....

1. I'm pretty sure the Wacom digitizer is not real on the fakes. So if you get a fake Note 3, your S-pen is most likely just a piece of plastic with a print of the button instead of a physical button.

2. Type *#0*#, if you see a button called "TSM Hover" then you are good to go, else: FAKE.

3. No Samsung logo? FAKE!

^_^

Hi on my N9005 when i press *#0*# i get
TSP Hovering
SPEN Hovering

I dont get TSM Hovering

Why is that my S pen works fine can u tell me this means could my device be a clone ?
 

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Hi on my N9005 when i press *#0*# i get
TSP Hovering
SPEN Hovering

I dont get TSM Hovering

Why is that my S pen works fine can u tell me this means could my device be a clone ?

No clone, I think TSP Hovering is how is supposed to be and is just one of 10 or more testmode options), TSM might have been a typo.
 

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As a quick initial test, I put the Imei number into a mobile phone recycling site ( I use mazuma.com) and if it comes as unrecognized it is almost definitely fake.
 

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Play store has the app "Genuine Galaxy S4/Note 3". It will tell you if the note 3 you have is real... - http://www.appszoom.com/android_applications/tools/genuine-galaxy-s4note-3_dcdxs.html

Someone else provided a link for it outside the google play store...

Just be aware if xPrivacy is installed and limits the apps ability to read all the information it needs it will say the Note 3 is NOT GENUINE...
I have 2 not genuine BUT real Note 3's. Turn xPrivacy off and they are real..

That redirects to a Web page that then has a download link that redirects to the play store supposedly - but the play store says that it is no longer available. Please advise.

Sent from my Galaxy Note III; Previous owner/hacker of Galaxy S III, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X, HTC HD2, HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC Tilt, HTC 8525, O2 XDA II, O2 XDA.
 

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That redirects to a Web page that then has a download link that redirects to the play store supposedly - but the play store says that it is no longer available. Please advise.

Sent from my Galaxy Note III; Previous owner/hacker of Galaxy S III, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X, HTC HD2, HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC Tilt, HTC 8525, O2 XDA II, O2 XDA.

Can't tell you... Was available now not...
 

xclub_101

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That redirects to a Web page that then has a download link that redirects to the play store supposedly - but the play store says that it is no longer available. Please advise.

Sent from my Galaxy Note III; Previous owner/hacker of Galaxy S III, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X, HTC HD2, HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC Tilt, HTC 8525, O2 XDA II, O2 XDA.


Just test if the SPen works as expected (with the side button from the pen opening AirCommand); if you must have a second test look if Kies 3 recognizes the phone.
 

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"So far the overwhelming majority of the original devices have 32GB RAM but there seem to be some 16GB devices listed/sold by reputable sellers in the world, so that will not be a good test"

Looks like my note 3 is fake.
 

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32 gb ram? I have 3 :'D
Pls correct the op

hit 'thanks' if i helped you
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Wow... That's one very well done clone job!

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    Note 3 models/frequencies/forums and how to spot a FAKE / CLONE

    This forum is about Samsung Note 3 and it is NOT about clones or fakes. Asking for support on clones and fakes in any of the Samsung Note 3 forums is unacceptable!

    Asking how to spot the differences between fakes/clones and "the real thing" is however acceptable, but given the fact that we now see 2-3 posts like that every day it is really becoming a major nuisance, so let's keep all this in a single place and avoid repeating the exact same questions again and again.

    There is also a Note 3 Neo (N750/N7505) which is somehow similar in design to the Note 3 but with only 2 GB RAM and 1280*720 screen - there is a separate forum for those models here!

    PLEASE DO NOT START ANY OTHER THREAD ASKING FOR THE SAME THING AGAIN AND AGAIN!

    If you have new information relevant or new questions please post under this thread!

    Currently there are many REAL Note 3 devices from Samsung, including (but not necessarily limited to) SM-N900, SM-N900(various letters), SM-N9000(various letters), SM-N9002, SM-N9005, SM-N9006, SM-N9008, SM-N9009. So far the overwhelming majority of the original devices have 32GB internal flash but there seem to be some 16GB devices listed/sold by reputable sellers in the world, so that will not be a good test. Please also note that (as I write this) there are 4 OTHER official Note 3 forums on xda - see links in the table-like list below.

    Code:
    [B]Samsung Exynos models[/B]
    
    MODEL	NAME / MARKET					XDA/LINK
    
    N900[B][COLOR="Blue"] [/COLOR][/B] 	Exynos Version International			[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3"]HERE[/URL]
    
    N900[B][COLOR="Blue"]0Q[/COLOR][/B] 	Exynos Version Turkey				[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3"]HERE[/URL]
    
    [B]Qualcomm Snapdragon models[/B]
    
    MODEL	NAME / MARKET		XDA/LINK 	2G  |  3G  |  4G (LTE,MHz)
    
    N900[B][COLOR="Blue"]5[/COLOR][/B] 	International LTE	[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3"]HERE[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
    	EU N9005ZWE		[URL="http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/galaxy-note/smartphones/SM-N9005ZWEBTU-spec"]SamsungUK[/URL]	850/900/1900/2100
    	HK N9005ZKA		[URL="http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consumer/mobile/mobile-phones/smartphone/SM-N9005ZKATGY-spec"]SamsungHK[/URL]	800/850/900/1800/2100/2600
    
    N900[B][COLOR="blue"]W8[/COLOR][/B] 	Americas non-US LTE	[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3"]HERE[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
    	Canada, Mexic				850/1900/2100
    	('happy' bootloader)			700/1900/2100
    
    N900[B][COLOR="blue"]T[/COLOR][/B] 	US T-Mobile LTE		[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile"]FORUM[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
    						850/1700/1900/2100
    						700/1700/2100
    						
    N900[B][COLOR="blue"]P[/COLOR][/B] 	US Sprint 4G		[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint"]FORUM[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
    						1900/2100
    						CDMA800/CDMA1900, LTE1900
    
    N900[B][COLOR="blue"]A[/COLOR][/B] 	US AT&T LTE		[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att"]FORUM[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
    	(locked bootloader)			850/900/1900/2100
    						700/850/1700/1900/2100
    
    N900[B][COLOR="blue"]V[/COLOR][/B] 	US Verizon 4G		[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3"]FORUM[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
    	(locked bootloader)			850/900/1900/2100
    						CDMA800/1900, LTE700/1700/2100
    
    N900[B][COLOR="blue"]S[/COLOR][/B] 	South Korea SK Telecom 	[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484602"]THREAD[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
    						850/900/1900/2100
    						700/850/1800
    						
    N900[B][COLOR="blue"]K[/COLOR][/B] 	South Korea KT Telecom 	[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484602"]THREAD[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
    						? 2100
    						? 900/1800
    						
    N900[B][COLOR="blue"]S[/COLOR][/B] 	South Korea LGU+ 	[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484602"]THREAD[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
    						?
    						?
    N900[B][COLOR="blue"]R4[/COLOR][/B] 	US Cellular	 	?		850/900/1800/1900
    						850/900/1900/2100
    					CDMA800/1900, LTE700/850/1700/1900/2100
    
    N900[B][COLOR="blue"]2[/COLOR][/B] 	China		 	 [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2592252"]Thread[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
    						850/900/1900/2100
    						NO 4G but 2nd SIM
    
    N900[B][COLOR="blue"]6[/COLOR][/B] 	China dual-SIM	 	[URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495375"]Thread[/URL]		850/900/1800/1900
    						850/900/1900/2100
    						NO 4G but 2nd SIM
    						
    N900[B][COLOR="blue"]7[/COLOR][/B] 	dual-SIM TD-LTE  	?		850/900/1800/1900
    						850/900/1900/2100
    			2nd SIM LTE2100 (B1), LTE850 (B5), LTE1800 (B3),
    			LTE2600 (B7), LTE900 (B8), TD-LTE2600 (B38), TD-LTE2300 (B40)
    						
    N900[B][COLOR="blue"]9[/COLOR][/B] 	CDMA	 ?	 	?		?


    The exact same letters CAN be found on some of the clones, so that is also not a good/definitive test.

    Also some of the information displayed by system-information programs CAN BE FAKED - there are now clones that report 1920x1080 screens and 3GB RAM (which in itself should be a red flag since for instance an original N9005 should report around 2.38GB in RAM Manager, the rest being mapped to video/3D).

    At this moment the best way to check if a phone is a clone/fake seems to be the SPen - the original Samsung pen is a device (similar/compatible with certain Wacom pens/digitizers) that is wireless-powered from about 10-20 mm away from screen of an original Note and on the home screen from about 10mm away the special pen hardware will provide a position (without any contact) and you will see a pointer and eventually some "hoover" actions; you can also press the special button on the side and you will get the special circular menu (aircommand). So far no clone has such a digitizer/pen. (the aircommand when you REMOVE the pen from the Note3 CAN be easily faked, since that one is another sensor that only feels when the pen was removed).

    The other dead giveaway is the actual screen and screen resolution - some of the clones also fake the reported screen resolution as 1920x1080 but on the fakes when you take a screenshot (with a palm gesture or with Home+Power) that one does NOT come as 1920x1080 but instead as something like 1280x720 (other known clones have 960x540 or so).

    Also if you are accustomed to the Samsung AMOLED screens you can immediately see the difference to the LCD or even IPS screens - outdoor is harder but indoor if you force the brightness from lowest to highest you immediately see the backlight on LCD/IPS screens and the pure black on the AMOLED.

    Please also note that no Samsung Note 3 has any Mediatek processor like MTK6589 , MT6572 , MTK6572 or similar, so all those are fakes.

    Apparently none of the clones (so far) have NFC and/or IR. Also the battery is smaller.

    Also a very good test seems to be the presence of Odin/Download mode (from full power off with Volume Down + Home + Power) and Recovery mode (from full power off with Volume Up + Home + Power).


    Here are some threads on some of those clones/fakes (inside you can see how hard is to tell just by looking at the device, and you might also find extra specific support if you have one of those devices):

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2460620

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549036

    Somewhere around there are even videos with some of those devices.

    EDIT:

    There are already some other excellent posts added to this thread, thank you very much to all the users that have contributed!

    I feel the need to add that most advice so far is for the cases when you can test the device in your hands, in case that is not possible please just use your good judgement and if it looks too good to be true chances are that it is a fake.

    I have also seen another difference that you might be able to spot before opening the original box - the Samsung box has at least 2 (most often now 3 with the one on region-lock) stickers/seals applied in such a way that you can not open the box without cutting those. One of them on Samsung phones also has a copy of the IMEI - which I believe for most real Samsung phones starts with 35 or so. None of the fakes that I have seen (on videos) have any of those.

    EDIT:
    Thanks to user sap7e here we also have a picture with some of the more visible differences!
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    Spotting a clone/fake

    Folks,
    I just went through the trials and tribulations of trying to get my hands on a genuine Note 3 LTE. I thought I might post quickly about the twisted people out there that try and pass off clones as genuine.
    I drove two hours to potentially buy a handset of a girl on Saturday. Prior to meeting with her I asked her if the phone was genuine as I would be able to tell. I was assured it was. I was also told that the receipt could be obtained if necessary. Upon meeting the seller,I held the handset and immediately knew it was a fake. No two ways about it. I had planned on installing "Genuine Galaxy" from the play store but there was difficulty getting my data setup.
    In the end, I just took a screenshot to prove to the seller that I wasn't going to be taken for a fool. The Samsung method of swiping ones' hand across the screen so I used the volume down and power button. Viewing details of the screenshot reports a resolution of 854x480. I obviously said "No way". Another tell-tale sign was the S-Pen which was flimsy and didn't have a button on one side. Rather, the button is imprinted into the shiny, chrome-effect plastic. The seller insisted "her aunt" was obviously duped, and she was hurt and sorry, but there was a lack on conviction in her voice.
    On Sunday, I drove another 2 hours in a different direction to see meet with another seller. This experience was like comparing apples to oranges. Genuine guy, with a like-minded interest in mobile tech. Really easy to deal with and, he was selling a genuine Note 3.

    All in all, the weekend wasn't a total waste, but it took more than 600 kilometres to get something worthwhile.
    It pays to be weary of these unconscionable sellers who will lie through there teeth to make a sale.
    It's one thing selling something and telling it as it is, a clone or fake, not maintaining the item is the genuine article. I think that's the lesson to be learned when looking for a deal on second-hand items. Do your homework and if it looks to be good to be true, it probably is (cliché, I know)
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    why dont you install some sensor tester apps and find out how many sensor does it have . i still doubt that your phone may not be fake.

    BTW from where did you buy this phone?

    Unfortunately I bought it off Craigslist. I took it into the T-mobile Store to get my replacement...they looked at it and were amazed at how identical it was to the real Note...I mean spot on in every detail. Then they put it in recovery mode - STRAIGHT CHINESE!!! Anyway, someone wants to trade me a genuine Galaxy S4 f our it today at 3:30...I might do it, and give it to my wife for her LG L9...

    Sent from my SM-N900T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

    ---------- Post added at 02:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:38 PM ----------

    Now that you have both phones. Could you do a side by side comparison?

    Is there anything that really stands out to you? What differences have you noticed? Speed and quality? Thank you in advance for any information provided.

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    Yeah...The clone has no GPS, no 4G or HSAP+...no smart scroll, smart pause, or smart stay, only has 1 gig of ram, and the s-pen button is non existent. But it does have GLOBAL gesures, which is quite impressive!

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    Hell yes that's real! The pricing seems so reasonable, for a tablet with a Wacom digitizer -_-


    ps. If you couldn't catch the sarcasm, never trust low prices on these devices.
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    To check for a fake/clone, you guys can use my app Phone INFO to get information.

    If a fake one, there are not CSC INFO, as well as Manufacturing Date...

    @OP: please add this to the #1 if possible