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Dani3I

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I wonder if I can create two (or more) user profiles on my android device, one of which I will use only open source stuff and everything else on the other.
As far as I know, it is possible to create several user profiles in Android that are isolated from each other.


I would probably install LineageOS for this as it doesn't have google play services pre-installed on it and it seems very "clean" in terms of these things (I have never used this system).
There is something like OpenGApps that allows you to install google play services but as far as I know it requires installation from twrp. So I suspect google play services will then be installed for all user profiles on the device.
So is there any possibility to install google services for one user only?


I also know that there is such a thing as microg (and Aurora stora). When I heard that there was such a thing as "LineageOS for microG" I thought it would be a very good option (on one android profile I just wouldn't use microg). But later I also found out that it is supposedly against the google policy and that they can ban my account for it, which I would prefer to avoid.

So I wanted to ask if the only option to do this is to install LineageOS, check what applications are installed by default, install OpenGApps to it and then disable all google related applications on one of the user profiles?

Does such disabling the application also ensure that Google will not be able to "work" on my device in any way? Does OpenGApps install any system level google stuff that will run in the background anyway?
And are OpenGApps not something that I should not install when I don't want to get a google ban?
 

jwoegerbauer

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    You are confusing (Open)GApps - Google themselves call them Google Mobile Services (GMS) - and Google Play Services what are two completely different things.

    Google Play Services is one of the most important parts of Android. It helps connect everything together and hold it all there. The Google Play Services are the interface to the Google Mobile Services as well as to the hardware functions of the Android device. Many of your apps use Google Play Services everyday.

    GMS is a bunch of apps what includes
    Google Play Store,
    Google Now,
    Google Play Music,
    Google Maps,
    Google+,
    Gmail,
    Google Photos,
    Youtube
    and the Android Device Manager.

    Knowing the difference it should be clear that GMS can get installed on a per-user basis whereas Google Play Services not.
     
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    Dani3I

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    You are confusing (Open)GApps - Google themselves call them Google Mobile Services (GMS) - and Google Play Services what are two completely different things.

    Google Play Services is one of the most important parts of Android. It helps connect everything together and hold it all there. The Google Play Services are the interface to the Google Mobile Services as well as to the hardware functions of the Android device. Many of your apps use Google Play Services everyday.

    GMS is a bunch of apps what includes
    Google Play Store,
    Google Now,
    Google Play Music,
    Google Maps,
    Google+,
    Gmail,
    Google Photos,
    Youtube
    and the Android Device Manager.

    Knowing the difference it should be clear that GMS can get installed on a per-user basis whereas Google Play Services not.
    Thanks for the clarification, although I still don't really know what you meant. I thought that google play services is the name for all those components that are needed to run, for example, the google play store. If the google play store needs also other components (?), then when I wrote google play services, I meant all the components that are needed to run the play store.
    In any case, I mean in practice whether I am able to install both the play store and the components needed for it only for one user in Android, but from what I understand it is not possible in your opinion.


    The questions at the end of my post probably still remain the same. I can only clarify that I meant more general cases in these questions:
    Does installing the play store (along with the necessary components) install any system-level Google stuff that will run in the background anyway even if I disable these apps?
    And isn't installing the play store (along with the necessary components) by hand something that I shouldn't be doing when I want to avoid a Google ban?
     

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    Again:
    Google Play Store simply is an ordinary user app as any other user app, too, nothing else. It itself installs , except some Android OS libraries, nothing. Only thing is it requires Google Play Services ( which are running in background ) to properly run. As already said: Google Play Services can only get installed once because it extends Android OS. And Android OS always is the same for all created users.

    Don't understand what you mean with "Google ban".
     
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    I would probably install LineageOS for this as it doesn't have google play services pre-installed on it and it seems very "clean" in terms of these things (I have never used this system).
    There is something like OpenGApps that allows you to install google play services but as far as I know it requires installation from twrp. So I suspect google play services will then be installed for all user profiles on the device.
    So is there any possibility to install google services for one user only?
    You can install those apps but you have to flash it via recovery. Also, you need to do that prior to booting into the os for the first time, which I think is related to encryption.
    If you already booted into your os, you need to boot into recovery and perform a factory data reset, then flash those gapps (as far as I know dirty flashing those gapps will introduce instability to those gapps. That's why you need a factory data reset).
    Keep in mind that factory reseting will delete all your person data.

    After you flashed it, those gapps will be available for every user

    I also know that there is such a thing as microg (and Aurora stora). When I heard that there was such a thing as "LineageOS for microG" I thought it would be a very good option (on one android profile I just wouldn't use microg). But later I also found out that it is supposedly against the google policy and that they can ban my account for it, which I would prefer to avoid.
    Aurora Store provides an anonymous google account. It's data isn't linked to you which means they cannot ban your account.

    So I wanted to ask if the only option to do this is to install LineageOS, check what applications are installed by default, install OpenGApps to it and then disable all google related applications on one of the user profiles?
    LOS comes without any google apps preinstalled. So first flash LOS, then OpenGApps (follow their official guide. They describe it there).
    And yes, after that you have to disable every google app you don't want to use for every new user profile.

    Does such disabling the application also ensure that Google will not be able to "work" on my device in any way? Does OpenGApps install any system level google stuff that will run in the background anyway?
    If you disable it for the current user, it won't run in any way, yes.
    OpenGApps itself shouldn't install anything on system level. But those apps will be installed on system level since you flash them to the system (using your recovery). However, if you disable them they won't run in the background.

    And are OpenGApps not something that I should not install when I don't want to get a google ban?
    I don't know.
     

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    You are confusing (Open)GApps - Google themselves call them Google Mobile Services (GMS) - and Google Play Services what are two completely different things.

    Google Play Services is one of the most important parts of Android. It helps connect everything together and hold it all there. The Google Play Services are the interface to the Google Mobile Services as well as to the hardware functions of the Android device. Many of your apps use Google Play Services everyday.

    GMS is a bunch of apps what includes
    Google Play Store,
    Google Now,
    Google Play Music,
    Google Maps,
    Google+,
    Gmail,
    Google Photos,
    Youtube
    and the Android Device Manager.

    Knowing the difference it should be clear that GMS can get installed on a per-user basis whereas Google Play Services not.
    Yep that's absolutely correct
     

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      You are confusing (Open)GApps - Google themselves call them Google Mobile Services (GMS) - and Google Play Services what are two completely different things.

      Google Play Services is one of the most important parts of Android. It helps connect everything together and hold it all there. The Google Play Services are the interface to the Google Mobile Services as well as to the hardware functions of the Android device. Many of your apps use Google Play Services everyday.

      GMS is a bunch of apps what includes
      Google Play Store,
      Google Now,
      Google Play Music,
      Google Maps,
      Google+,
      Gmail,
      Google Photos,
      Youtube
      and the Android Device Manager.

      Knowing the difference it should be clear that GMS can get installed on a per-user basis whereas Google Play Services not.
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      Again:
      Google Play Store simply is an ordinary user app as any other user app, too, nothing else. It itself installs , except some Android OS libraries, nothing. Only thing is it requires Google Play Services ( which are running in background ) to properly run. As already said: Google Play Services can only get installed once because it extends Android OS. And Android OS always is the same for all created users.

      Don't understand what you mean with "Google ban".
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