Installing TWRP over CWM?

[Skyty]

Hello,

I am wondering if it is possible to install TWRP over top of CWM? When I initially rooted my phone CWM was installed, however to install a new rom I need TWRP. Is this possible?

Thanks,

 

[MrGoodtunes]

Hello,

I am wondering if it is possible to install TWRP over top of CWM? When I initially rooted my phone CWM was installed, however to install a new rom I need TWRP. Is this possible?

Thanks,

Yes. It's been a loong time. Best I can recall, I did the following:

1. Flash'd a ZIP of an old TWRP (couldn't find latest in ZIP file)
2. Rebooted into Recovery
3. Used old TWRP to flash IMG file of new TWRP

 

[Skyty]

Just to make sure I understand (as it's been a while since I rooted a phone or done anything like this).

1.) When you say flashed, do you mean in the TWRP app on the screen where you select your phone model?
2.) So if I flash TWRP (in the manner I described above assuming that's what you meant) and reboot into recovery it will overwrite Clockworkmod and then I'll be in TWRP recovery?
3.) If I do this with the most recent TWRP version I'm assuming this step will be unecessary?

My apologies if I misunderstood what you were trying to say! Thanks for taking the time to respond!

 

[MrGoodtunes]

...
1.) When you say flashed, do you mean in the TWRP app on the screen where you select your phone model?
2.) So if I flash TWRP (in the manner I described above assuming that's what you meant) and reboot into recovery it will overwrite Clockworkmod and then I'll be in TWRP recovery?
3.) If I do this with the most recent TWRP version I'm assuming this step will be unecessary?...

Quick answers: No, no, and maybe.

It appears that you may be confusing the TWRP app (which is basically useless bloat) with the actual TWRP recovery. You need to find and download the latest TWRP recovery for your device model. If you can find a ZIP of it, great; because CWM can then install TWRP recovery for you (so that when you reboot into recovery, you'll see TWRP instead of CWM). In my case, there was no ZIP available for the latest TWRP; it was available only as an IMG file. An old version of TWRP recovery, however, was and likely still is available in a ZIP file. So use CWM to install that ZIP of older TWRP, which can then install newer TWRP as an IMG file. I'm just a struggling noob myself, but I'm pretty sure CWM is not able to install an IMG file. Good luck!

 

[Skyty]

Quick answers: No, no, and maybe.

It appears that you may be confusing the TWRP app (which is basically useless bloat) with the actual TWRP recovery. You need to find and download the latest TWRP recovery for your device model. If you can find a ZIP of it, great; because CWM can then install TWRP recovery for you (so that when you reboot into recovery, you'll see TWRP instead of CWM). In my case, there was no ZIP available for the latest TWRP; it was available only as an IMG file. An old version of TWRP recovery, however, was and likely still is available in a ZIP file. So use CWM to install that ZIP of older TWRP, which can then install newer TWRP as an IMG file. I'm just a struggling noob myself, but I'm pretty sure CWM is not able to install an IMG file. Good luck!

Ahhhh, okay that makes sense. I think I follow. Now in another thread you mentioned that if I need to go back and restore I'd use TWRP to flash CWM, hen I can use CWM to recover my old nandroid backups.

A couple final questions. Will I need to do a wipe when I flash the old TWRP zip (side note, do you know a good place to find those)? If I need to go back to CWM is there any place I can find it to flash with TWRP?

Thanks for all your help!

 

[MrGoodtunes]

... if I need to go back and restore I'd use TWRP to flash CWM, hen I can use CWM to recover my old nandroid backups ...

Correct. That is IF you can find TWRP and CWM as ZIP files. I used to switch back and forth frequently, but that was years ago. TWRP is so much more useful, I no longer have anything CWM related nor the ZIPs; and can't even find where I got them. I'm pretty sure they were here on XDA. Spent some time searching, no luck. Then I tried Google. The first snippit nail'd it, here:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-mini/development/recovery-cwm-twrp-philz-t3182207

.... Will I need to do a wipe when I flash the old TWRP zip...

I never wiped. I seem to recall that when installing to the recovery partition, one of the steps I saw in the log was a wipe or maybe even a reformatting of that partition taking place along the way.

.... (side note, do you know a good place to find those)? If I need to go back to CWM is there any place I can find it to flash with TWRP?

They're both in the link (above).

.... Thanks for all your help!

That's what the [Thanks] button is for, here on xda.

 

[Skyty]

Correct. That is IF you can find TWRP and CWM as ZIP files. I used to switch back and forth frequently, but that was years ago. TWRP is so much more useful, I no longer have anything CWM related nor the ZIPs; and can't even find where I got them. I'm pretty sure they were here on XDA. Spent some time searching, no luck. Then I tried Google. The first snippit nail'd it, here:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-mini/development/recovery-cwm-twrp-philz-t3182207

I appreciate the link, however, I think those zips are for a different model of phone than mine. However, I think I possibly found versions that will work for me... Is there any real way to confirm?

The serranoltexx CWM Zip
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364980&page=99

The serranoltexx TWRP Zip
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347768468

However, I'm not 100% certain either of these will work, and I'm not sure how I'd figure that out.

That's what the [Thanks] button is for, here on xda.

Done!

 

[MrGoodtunes]

... those zips are for a different model of phone ...

OMG! You're right, those are for the Value Edition. I completely miss'd the "ve" in them. Sorry.

... I think I possibly found versions that will work for me..

The serranoltexx CWM Zip
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364980&page=99

The serranoltexx TWRP Zip
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347768468 ...

I remember using that very CWM zip version 6.0.5.1, so it should work okay. Good find.

I'm not familliar with that particular TWRP zip. It does clearly indicate being for the i9195 model; I'm just not sure about what "open" means at beginning of zip's filename. Still, worth a try. (If it fails, you can more easily find a TAR file of the most recent TWRP and use Odin to install it.)

 

[Skyty]

OMG! You're right, those are for the Value Edition. I completely miss'd the "ve" in them. Sorry.



I remember using that very CWM zip version 6.0.5.1, so it should work okay. Good find.

I'm not familliar with that particular TWRP zip. It does clearly indicate being for the i9195 model; I'm just not sure about what "open" means at beginning of zip's filename. Still, worth a try. (If it fails, you can more easily find a TAR file of the most recent TWRP and use Odin to install it.)

So, just thought I'd let you know that I'm up and running with LineageOS and I tested reverting back and forth to CWM and TWRP. Eveything seems in working order! I appreciate you help and have clicked the thanks button on your messages! All the best!

 

[MrGoodtunes]

... I tested reverting back and forth to CWM and TWRP. Eveything seems in working order!

That's excellent. It's really amazing how much we can do with this little S4mini device; thanks to the work of devs, several of whom are still providing updates. After all there's never been a more powerful device (other than S4mini VE) that weighs under 4 oz.

 

[Skyty]

That's excellent. It's really amazing how much we can do with this little S4mini device; thanks to the work of devs, several of whom are still providing updates. After all there's never been a more powerful device (other than S4mini VE) that weighs under 4 oz.

Yeah, its amazing! I've been able to breath new life into my old phone, I'm shocked at how well it runs on the S4; not as well as my newer phones, but better than before. Funnily enough, its actually running a newer version of Android than my S8 and S10e haha. Now onto those phones... been trying to get them both rooted but it's looking like a no go haha.