iPhone 4 vs Android (My Comparison)

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flarbear

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Android allows you to run an acitivity or a service in the background

Apple ties the multi tasking ability to the predefined services. The actual application does not continue running. So you can't create a different kind of app that requires a different kind of service on a custom API that will run in multitasking. Therefore Apple's implementation is rather called multi-threaded kernel than true multi tasking
I definitely want to see the true MT of Android continue, but it would be nice if they provided some built-in APIs for many of the common "background tasks" that most applications use so that they can be centralized and still active even if the application must be cleared from memory. Both have their advantages.

The way I see it, Android's MT is the most flexible.
Apple's is the most responsible from a battery and device responsiveness perspective.

But both would be better.
 

flarbear

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i think its funny that because the new iphone has video chat, but only over wifi, its a fail for apple. yet android doesnt even have video chat AT ALL (for the most part until the evo lol). wouldnt that be a fail for android since apple has it and android does not? btw i hate apple!
Hopefully this post was somewhat sarcastic?

I saw the same point made in a Businessweek article today - that iPhone 4 "gets jump on rivals with Video Calling". Huh?

iPhone 4 will have video calling when it appears in stores later this month. Meanwhile the Evo has had it since it shipped last week (before the iPhone 4 was even announced) and will have had it for nearly 3 weeks by the time iPhone 4 gets into customer's hands. How is that "getting the jump on" anybody?

And when the iPhone 4 arrives the video calling will be limited to WiFi, but the Evo's already works on either WiFi or cell data.

So, arriving 3 or so weeks late to the table with a comparatively feature-limited implementation of video calling is considered "getting the jump on"? And this is Businessweek, not an amateur Apple fan blogger. Have they ever heard of verifying their facts before publishing? Is it any wonder that people refer to a reality distortion field?

(And, if we don't want to be NA-centric, many phones in other countries - notably Asia - have had video calling on cell phones for years, but I'm not sure if Businessweek would call those "rivals" considering they cited Android phones specifically...)
 

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An argument I'm having

I shouldn't have gotten as personal as I did, but here you go.

friend: iphone4....All other phones will be rendered obsolete.

me: Lol can you view all websites with full flash? Nope. I can watch hulu, thedailyshow, play bejeweled or mindjolt games on facebook, any website with flash works flawlessly. IPhone will never be able to do that. Can you put music on, videos on the iPhone without having to use iTunes? Nope. I use my phone like a USB stick, I can take off/put on content as much as I want, whenever I want without using the piece of **** iTunes, one of the worst software ever coded. Can you put custom operating systems on your phone? Nope. Video calling on iPhone works only on iPhone to iPhone, and only on wifi? We can do it from any device to any device, and on 3g. Can you play all your Sega Genesis and super Nintendo games free, using an emulator without jailbreaking the iPhone? Sorry, nope. And you guys are FINALLY getting the option to put apps in folders, and getting pseudo multitasking? Welcome to 2005. Can you do turn by turn navigation for free? We can on android. And don't be confused by apple. 4g for the iPhone simply means 4th generation, not 4g speeds. Only sprint has 4G (wimax) speeds at the moment and only the Evo. 4G running android has 4G capability. When Att finally gets 4g data in place, the iPhone 4 wont be able to use it anyway, you'll have to wait till iPhone 5. See how apple is always behind? What's been the new innovation in iPhone 4? iAds. Ummm, if I pay for an app I shouldn't have to watch any ads!! This is innovation? No, its annoyance. Apple counts on people not knowing what other phones can do so they can sell a crippled operating system and crippled phone in shiny package (which looks uuuugly! compared to my Nexus one) because apple buyers r sheep. Don't be a sheep. Come over to the Android side. You'll feel much better.

friend:
No you can't view flash on iPhone because Flash is CRAPPY. Flash is what causes crashes, and just look at flash on his EVO 4g...it will be choppy and never smooth. Flash is a terrible platform that will be phased out eventually, Apple uses html5 and that is the future. Hulu doesn't work on mobile phones ... See Moreeven if they have Flash. iPhone can't be used as a usb because it's a closed system, they ensure that everything that is allowed in the system works perfectly. Android phones is an open system to anyone can develops apps, you can put whatever OS you want on it, you can put musci from anywhere. The problem with that is...if you can do anything you want to it and anyone can make anything for it, then you also have a lot of opportunities to screw it up. You can get viruses, put OS's that aren't compatible with the hardware, etc etc. And HTC makes that phone, HTC is terrible at making the hardware. There is no synchronization between hardware and software. I don't need to play sega genesis games because those are not optimized for a phone and the gameplay experience will be terrible. Games on the iphone are much more refined because they are developed specifically for use on the iphone. The video calling that you can do on the EVO will pale in comparison to the quality you get on iphone, and don't forget there is skype in the app store
so it's not just an iphone to iphone thing.

ATT network is pretty crappy, but that's the network's issue. I was talking about the phone. Android is all about numbers, and it wins in numbers. But when it comes to user experience and how well things actually work, the iPhone is far ahead of the competition. Apple has already made microsoft history, and when it comes to the phone market android will always be below it or just disappear eventually. Speaking of the Nexus one, look it up...it's discontinued because they were having so many issues with it.

Me: You're wrong on all counts.

I am watching the show Archer on hulu.com RIGHT NOW on my phone. You just tell the browser to register itself as a desktop browser, and voila. How hard is that?

Flash is crappy? EVERY website in the world practically uses flash. So while I'm watching videos and playing flash games and **** on every website, you can just sit back and say flash sucks while you browse the web with your crippled iphone browser....
and here's PROOF of how well flash (beta) works on my nexus one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y7XJI4NN7k --- and it's still beta, and not even hardware accelerated! So it's only gonna improve from here. Oh and guess what, my browser is HTML5 capable too. HTML5 and Flash. So I'm not limited, unlike you.

"Android phones is an open system...The problem with that is...you have a lot of opportunities to screw it up." So basically its better to have a closed system because you may be an idiot and screw your phone up? Um, okay..why don't you just get a bicycle with training wheels, in case you fall? When you walk from your front door to your mailbox, make sure to have helmets and knee pads on because you're the kinda idiot most likely to fall on your face. What an idiotic argument. I want to be able to mess with my phone as much as I ****in want. It's MY phone. I love the fact that I can put on music/video from anywhere, apps from anywhere, different operating systems with mods and hacks, I like to be able to mess with the internal clock speed and make this fast ass phone even faster, because I'm smart enough to know what I'm doing, and if I screw up my phone, it's my responsibility...but I guess it makes sense that Apple users are not smart enough to be allowed to tinker with their devices. Afterall, how can they be? They actually paid real money for that ****. Proof enough iPhone users have no brain.

"I don't need to play sega genesis games because those are not optimized for a phone and the gameplay experience will be terrible." The genesis/snes/nes emulation runs PERFECT, obviously you've never seen it. It runs FLAWLESSLY. Maybe the iPhone isn't powerful enough to run 16 and 8 bit game emulation perfectly, but my Nexus One certainly is.

"And HTC makes that phone, HTC is terrible at making the hardware. There is no synchronization between hardware and software." - That is the dumbest **** I've heard this year.

"and don't forget there is skype in the app store so it's not just an iphone to iphone thing." Yes, the native app IS iphone to iphone, and ONLY on wifi. If you wanna talk 3rd party apps, we have those too, fring qik, and skype is already on the droid incredible, so it's a matter of time before it's on EVO.

"Speaking of the Nexus one, look it up...it's discontinued because they were having so many issues with it." Um no, it's not discontinued, they're going to move to a traditional retail model because selling something online only without letting people touch and use it didn't turn out to be the best tactic.

"Apple has already made microsoft history" lol what? Just because their stock price is higher? Last I checked 9 out of 10 computers use Windows.

iPhone 1 was an innovative (albeit lacking) phone, but now the iphone and its idiotic OS are just playing catch up to Android's new phones, and it doesn't look like they will. Good luck with the next iPhone, you've already lost with this one.

So keep using your baby proof Tyco kids toy phone which doesn't let you do **** with it, watching iAds that you're gonna be forced to watch even in PAID apps, while I use my superior device the way a SMART phone is meant to be used.

And I still think not having to be forced to use that ***** ass of a program called iTunes is ENOUGH of a reason to stay away from iPhone.

friend:That hulu is not the full hulu you are running. And the point is the phone is not meant to play Hulu. You have to clear the cache often, and there will be a lot of errors and glitches, for example you can't hit back when you are watching hulu. You lose a lot of functionality. It is a bit choppy and you cannot get away from it. Also if you do ... See Morefull screen it messes up the frame rate. Like I mentioned, it is not optimized to play on that phone thus the experience of watching it will be not as be good as a desktop. Plus you have to do work to make stuff like hulu play. With iPhone, anything that it claims it can do it does with ease and simplicity. People don't want to do a whole lot of extra work just to get simple things to work..that is why Apple's stocks have sky rocketed and why apple is taking over.

Yes everyone uses flash because that's what was out first. That does not mean it is the most efficient platform for animations and websites. I had a flash website and I have played around with Flash programming. It is terrible, just to make minor tweaks you have to do a lot of work. Flash was made for PCs in the windows era. The mobile era is about touch interfaces, low power devices, and open web standards- all of which flash falls short in. Apple's mobile devices have the richest media experience and this just demonstrates that Flash is no longer necessary to watch video or animations. The 200,000+ apps on Apple's App Store proves that Flash isn't necessary for tens of thousands of developers to create graphically rich applications, including games. iPhone has more games and graphic intensive applications right now than android will have in the next few years and none of them use flash. HTML5, will win on mobile devices. I'm sure adobe will soon focus on creating great HTML5 tools for the future, and leave flash behind.

You can mess with your phone all you want to make it work. Myself and most other consumers want their phones to work without additional tweaks and hacks, and frankly I'd rather do other things and mod my phone to make it work the way I want it too. You can hack and tweak your phone for ages, but whatever you do can't compare with the out of the box performance of the iPhone. I'm sure after all your mods, hacks, and tweaks the iPhone will still run faster, smoother and will provide a much better user experience (and they already demonstrated this with the iPhone 3gs, not even the iPhone 4). I think the top engineers in the world that developed the hardware and OS on the iPhone know how to optimize that phone out of the box better than you will with your hacks and mods on the android system. I'll leave it to them to make it work for me out of the box, while you can fiddle around with the android until you get it to do what you want it to do. So have fun messing with the internal clock speed, doing hacks and what not, while we all use our iPhone to do what we want it to do.

And the nexus one IS DONE. That's from google themselves, they stopped making that particular phone. Look it up, and they said they are not even sure if they will ever follow up with a successor to nexus one because the sales were so terrible. For engadget..."The Google Phone is dead, people -- long live the Google Phone." And google said something along those lines as well. I never said the software android was discontinued, I said nexus one was which is 100% the case.

Apple has made Microsoft history. Their stocks are higher and the growth is far more than microsoft...and microsoft is declining. Yes most computers are PCs, because apple is new. When windows came out and that was the best thing everyone went with that and now most businesses are based off windows. Soon that trend will change, the only thing that will hold them back possibly is cost. But it is clear that apple has the superior OS and hardware. 9 out of 10 computers use windows...possibly, but it takes time for the switch to happen when big companies and hospitals are already based on windows. Take UM hospital for example, people in charge of informatics there would love to switch to apple but their whole system is already based on windows and to make the switch is a huge cost and would have to change their entire system. Clearly they know that the apple OS is far better, they are just stuck for now because the change would require too much.

iAds is pretty annoying, but in the long run it's what lets us get apps for cheap since the developers are getting paid because of iAds. Take the game doodle jump, 3.99 on android market...in app store, .99 and works a lot better on iphone since that's what it was originally developed for. So in the end, iAds save me money.

iTunes really is not that complicated, they made it idiot proof. Another reason apple sells so much, it's idiot proof. You really have to be computer illiterate to not make things like iTunes work for you.

All that being said, you can take your nexus one and put it next to an iPhone 4. Give those two to anyone and I am certain just the display alone will make people never want to look at any other phone again. And the display is a big part of the experience, everything you do depends on the vibrance and sharpness of the display. Even the 3Gs display was better than nexus one, and EVO 4g etc despite having less pixels...because apple uses different technology. I'm not even going to compare the display of the iPhone 4 with any other phone because that's just over kill. Same thing with touch screen technology...no other phone will ever match the fluidity because apple uses completely different technology for touch screen.

You can give any reason you want to justify the money you spent on your nexus one, but fact is it cannot compare to the thought and innovation that went into the iPhone to provide an unmatched user experience. True AT&T isn't the best and the plan costs more than other carriers. Certainly if I was on sprint or verizon and stuck, and iPhone didn't exist I would be happy with my android phones. But if someone is willing to pay for the plan and to put up with AT&T, then there is no better phone than the iPhone. Not even close. You're just one person claiming the nexus one is better. We'll let the sales, the users, and the reviewers further confirm how far ahead the iphone 4 is compared to android phones. And you should form your opinion after trying both. I have had both, 3Gs and android....and even the 3Gs pulls out ahead. So I know the iPhone 4 will be far far ahead.

me:You are such an idiot it's best if you save the rest of us oxygen by holding your breath indefinitely.

"That hulu is not the full hulu you are running",

What the ****? It is the DESKTOP version of the site, not a mobile version. So what the hell do you mean not the full hulu? And the flash on my phone isn't HARDWARE accelerated yet, it's still BETA. I wonder if a computer illiterate moron like you even knows what that means. IT IS BETA. I doubt you've coded anything in your life since you don't even understand what beta or hardware acceleration mean.

And lets say that even after it is hardware accelerated that it's not as good as the desktop version. At least I can view it if I choose to. I have CHOICE. You do not. You can't view it no matter what. I can.

"People don't want to do a whole lot of extra work just to get simple things to work."

But people WANT things to work, like flash, and guess what, flash doesn't work on Apple, no matter HOW hard you try. You lose.

"You can mess with your phone all you want to make it work. Myself and most other consumers want their phones to work without additional tweaks and hacks"

I have never once cleared the cache of the browser on my phone. I have no glitches, no hang ups, nothing of the sort, my phone runs super smooth and it's without ANY tweaks at the moment....and I have the CHOICE of tweaking it if I find something I want to improve, or if a developer adds a cool feature to a custom OS, whereas you're stuck.

Stop making **** up when it's obvious you've never used the phone, or have probably used a low end android phone like a G1 or something. Everything works on my phone, ALWAYS.

You have this idiotic assumption that any phone but the iphone freezes and has glitches, and doesn't do what we want it to do? Where do you get off? You are the biggest apple sheep I've met in a long time. Just because your god Steve Jobs tells you that no other phones work except the iPhone, that doesn't mean ****.

I'll tell you what doesn't work on your phone that works on high end android devices:

1) Flash support - try to downplay the importance of it as much as you want, but people want it.
2) Free GPS turn by turn navigation from Google. Enjoy paying 70 dollars or whatever for your garmin app.
3) USB mass storage - I can use my phone as a hard drive, and put on files and take off files as I please. No need for itunes, no need for jailbreaking.
4) 4G data speeds.

Now lets see what works on the iPhone but doesn't work on my Nexus, or the Incredible or Evo.

Nothing.

Read loud and clear and try to get this through your thick head: MY ANDROID PHONE WORKS PERFECTLY AND FLAWLESSLY AT ALL TIMES WITHOUT GIVING ME ANY PROBLEMS, IT WORKS SUPER SMOOTH OUT OF THE BOX, AND IS ***MORE*** CAPABLE THAN THE IPHONE. Get it? Or was that not simple enough for you?

And since you have amnesia, we already have HTML5 on our phones!! So we have the choice of flash and HTML5. Do you? No. You lose.

"Yes most computers are PCs, because apple is new."

Are you mentally retarded or just prefer to be willfully ignorant? In 1984, Apple next launched the Macintosh. Windows 1.0 was not released until November 1985. How the hell is Apple new?? And if you wanna know history, which you clearly don't, Apple stole the GUI idea from Xerox, then Microsoft stole it and made it better, and then Apple tried to sue Microsoft for stealing what they themselves stole! Obviously the case didn't go very far because you can't say "hey we stole it first, so it's ours." That's the kinda **** company Apple is.

"I never said the software android was discontinued, I said nexus one was which is 100% the case."

Friday, May 14 Google Inc. announced that it will close its online store which was established to market its Nexus One phone, but now the Internet giant is opting to shift to traditional retail outlets to sell its product.

Why don't you try reading the story BEYOND just the headlines for a change? Or does that require too much attention span for the average iPhone user like yourself?

"iTunes really is not that complicated, they made it idiot proof. Another reason apple sells so much, it's idiot proof. You really have to be computer illiterate to not make things like iTunes work for you."

iTunes is not difficult to use but it is a completely unnecessary bloatware that I should NEVER be forced to install on my computer or to use. You are forced on the other hand. I want to have my phone behave as a secondary drive, not have to use some bloatware to do SIMPLE things like putting music on my phone. So who has to work harder to get **** to work on their phone? You or me?

" Even the 3Gs display was better than nexus one."

Here again you prove that you're such a moron, that you're most likely confusing the G1 with the Nexus One. Get your head out of your ass. Look at ANY review online of the Nexus One vs the iPhone, and they'll all tell you how much sharper and more vibrant the screen is on the nexus. After using my Nexus, and trying to read on the iphone 3Gs makes me want to rub my eyes because I feel my vision is blurred. Absolutely idiotic statement, and proof you have no clue what you're talking about. The iPhone 4 will have a higher resolution than the Nexus One, but at 3.5 inches I think you'll be hard pressed to tell the difference between 960x640 and 800x400. There's a certain point when your eyes can't tell the difference between pixels, and the Nexus already reached it. What Apple is counting on is idiots like you who've never used a high end Android like the Nexus one or HTC Droid Incredible, to simply compare how it looks to the 3Gs and of course it will look better so you'll think "wow, now THIS is the greatest screen ever, as my 3GS was until this very moment."

"Same thing with touch screen technology...no other phone will ever match the fluidity because apple uses completely different technology for touch screen."

Here you go making **** up again. What touch screen fluidity issues do the Droid Incredible or EVO have? Where's your proof? None. Now I'm not gonna just make **** up and say that the iPhone's touch screen sensor is worse, because it's not true. You on the other hand keep making unsubstantiated claims, proving you are talking out of your ass. You lose.

" there is no better phone than the iPhone. Not even close. You're just one person claiming the nexus one is better. We'll let the sales, the users, and the reviewers further confirm how far ahead the iphone 4 is compared to android phones."

According to that logic, Bad Boys II is a better movie than the Shawshank Redemption because the former made 262 million, and the latter only made 60. Just because most people are sheep and shell out money due to heavy advertising and marketing doesn't mean the product they are getting is superior.

There is only ONE thing I like about the iPhone compared to my nexus, and that is video recording quality. I'll give you that. So if that is super important to you, go get the iPhone and waste your money.

On every other front, there is no way in HELL I'd pay good money for a crippled, locked down phone. Besides the video recording quality, there is not a single reason to get an iPhone over a high end Android device.
 

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Are you mentally retarded or just prefer to be willfully ignorant? In 1984, Apple next launched the Macintosh. Windows 1.0 was not released until November 1985. How the hell is Apple new?? And if you wanna know history, which you clearly don't, Apple stole the GUI idea from Xerox, then Microsoft stole it and made it better, and then Apple tried to sue Microsoft for stealing what they themselves stole! Obviously the case didn't go very far because you can't say "hey we stole it first, so it's ours." That's the kinda **** company Apple is.
You can mess with your phone all you want to make it work. Myself and most other consumers want their phones to work without additional tweaks and hacks, and frankly I'd rather do other things and mod my phone to make it work the way I want it too. You can hack and tweak your phone for ages, but whatever you do can't compare with the out of the box performance of the iPhone. I'm sure after all your mods, hacks, and tweaks the iPhone will still run faster, smoother and will provide a much better user experience (and they already demonstrated this with the iPhone 3gs, not even the iPhone 4). I think the top engineers in the world that developed the hardware and OS on the iPhone know how to optimize that phone out of the box better than you will with your hacks and mods on the android system. I'll leave it to them to make it work for me out of the box, while you can fiddle around with the android until you get it to do what you want it to do. So have fun messing with the internal clock speed, doing hacks and what not, while we all use our iPhone to do what we want it to do.
I fecking lol'd!
 

crazyboyrs

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Yalo! Android battery suck!

.... OK la.. Tie on this.
Hehe, off the topic...I know which country you are from base on your comments style...:D

Alright. Back to the topic.

I do agree on some points except the application part. From a user point of view, AppStore is a revolution. I am not going to start with bragging how many hundred thousand apps, but I will start with the quality of the titles especially Games. Big companies like EA, Gameloft, Capcom, do constantly pump in quality games and following the thrend like NeedForSpeed, Splinter Cell, Avatar, StreetFighter etc.... When PC/PS3/XBox launched a game, the mini/iphone version will launch too.

From a developer point of view, I agree Apple is slow and 'arrogant'. However, the fragmentation problem on Android is still a headache for developers. Hopefully Froyo will shed some light on this issue.
 
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I shouldn't have gotten as personal as I did, but here you go.

friend: iphone4....All other phones will be rendered obsolete.

me: Lol can you view all websites with full flash? Nope. I can watch hulu, thedailyshow, play bejeweled or mindjolt games on facebook, any website with flash works flawlessly. IPhone will never be able to do that. Can you put music on, videos on the iPhone without having to use iTunes? Nope. I use my phone like a USB stick, I can take off/put on content as much as I want, whenever I want without using the piece of **** iTunes, one of the worst software ever coded. Can you put custom operating systems on your phone? Nope. Video calling on iPhone works only on iPhone to iPhone, and only on wifi? We can do it from any device to any device, and on 3g. Can you play all your Sega Genesis and super Nintendo games free, using an emulator without jailbreaking the iPhone? Sorry, nope. And you guys are FINALLY getting the option to put apps in folders, and getting pseudo multitasking? Welcome to 2005. Can you do turn by turn navigation for free? We can on android. And don't be confused by apple. 4g for the iPhone simply means 4th generation, not 4g speeds. Only sprint has 4G (wimax) speeds at the moment and only the Evo. 4G running android has 4G capability. When Att finally gets 4g data in place, the iPhone 4 wont be able to use it anyway, you'll have to wait till iPhone 5. See how apple is always behind? What's been the new innovation in iPhone 4? iAds. Ummm, if I pay for an app I shouldn't have to watch any ads!! This is innovation? No, its annoyance. Apple counts on people not knowing what other phones can do so they can sell a crippled operating system and crippled phone in shiny package (which looks uuuugly! compared to my Nexus one) because apple buyers r sheep. Don't be a sheep. Come over to the Android side. You'll feel much better.

friend:
No you can't view flash on iPhone because Flash is CRAPPY. Flash is what causes crashes, and just look at flash on his EVO 4g...it will be choppy and never smooth. Flash is a terrible platform that will be phased out eventually, Apple uses html5 and that is the future. Hulu doesn't work on mobile phones ... See Moreeven if they have Flash. iPhone can't be used as a usb because it's a closed system, they ensure that everything that is allowed in the system works perfectly. Android phones is an open system to anyone can develops apps, you can put whatever OS you want on it, you can put musci from anywhere. The problem with that is...if you can do anything you want to it and anyone can make anything for it, then you also have a lot of opportunities to screw it up. You can get viruses, put OS's that aren't compatible with the hardware, etc etc. And HTC makes that phone, HTC is terrible at making the hardware. There is no synchronization between hardware and software. I don't need to play sega genesis games because those are not optimized for a phone and the gameplay experience will be terrible. Games on the iphone are much more refined because they are developed specifically for use on the iphone. The video calling that you can do on the EVO will pale in comparison to the quality you get on iphone, and don't forget there is skype in the app store
so it's not just an iphone to iphone thing.

ATT network is pretty crappy, but that's the network's issue. I was talking about the phone. Android is all about numbers, and it wins in numbers. But when it comes to user experience and how well things actually work, the iPhone is far ahead of the competition. Apple has already made microsoft history, and when it comes to the phone market android will always be below it or just disappear eventually. Speaking of the Nexus one, look it up...it's discontinued because they were having so many issues with it.

Me: You're wrong on all counts.

I am watching the show Archer on hulu.com RIGHT NOW on my phone. You just tell the browser to register itself as a desktop browser, and voila. How hard is that?

Flash is crappy? EVERY website in the world practically uses flash. So while I'm watching videos and playing flash games and **** on every website, you can just sit back and say flash sucks while you browse the web with your crippled iphone browser....
and here's PROOF of how well flash (beta) works on my nexus one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y7XJI4NN7k --- and it's still beta, and not even hardware accelerated! So it's only gonna improve from here. Oh and guess what, my browser is HTML5 capable too. HTML5 and Flash. So I'm not limited, unlike you.

"Android phones is an open system...The problem with that is...you have a lot of opportunities to screw it up." So basically its better to have a closed system because you may be an idiot and screw your phone up? Um, okay..why don't you just get a bicycle with training wheels, in case you fall? When you walk from your front door to your mailbox, make sure to have helmets and knee pads on because you're the kinda idiot most likely to fall on your face. What an idiotic argument. I want to be able to mess with my phone as much as I ****in want. It's MY phone. I love the fact that I can put on music/video from anywhere, apps from anywhere, different operating systems with mods and hacks, I like to be able to mess with the internal clock speed and make this fast ass phone even faster, because I'm smart enough to know what I'm doing, and if I screw up my phone, it's my responsibility...but I guess it makes sense that Apple users are not smart enough to be allowed to tinker with their devices. Afterall, how can they be? They actually paid real money for that ****. Proof enough iPhone users have no brain.

"I don't need to play sega genesis games because those are not optimized for a phone and the gameplay experience will be terrible." The genesis/snes/nes emulation runs PERFECT, obviously you've never seen it. It runs FLAWLESSLY. Maybe the iPhone isn't powerful enough to run 16 and 8 bit game emulation perfectly, but my Nexus One certainly is.

"And HTC makes that phone, HTC is terrible at making the hardware. There is no synchronization between hardware and software." - That is the dumbest **** I've heard this year.

"and don't forget there is skype in the app store so it's not just an iphone to iphone thing." Yes, the native app IS iphone to iphone, and ONLY on wifi. If you wanna talk 3rd party apps, we have those too, fring qik, and skype is already on the droid incredible, so it's a matter of time before it's on EVO.

"Speaking of the Nexus one, look it up...it's discontinued because they were having so many issues with it." Um no, it's not discontinued, they're going to move to a traditional retail model because selling something online only without letting people touch and use it didn't turn out to be the best tactic.

"Apple has already made microsoft history" lol what? Just because their stock price is higher? Last I checked 9 out of 10 computers use Windows.

iPhone 1 was an innovative (albeit lacking) phone, but now the iphone and its idiotic OS are just playing catch up to Android's new phones, and it doesn't look like they will. Good luck with the next iPhone, you've already lost with this one.

So keep using your baby proof Tyco kids toy phone which doesn't let you do **** with it, watching iAds that you're gonna be forced to watch even in PAID apps, while I use my superior device the way a SMART phone is meant to be used.

And I still think not having to be forced to use that ***** ass of a program called iTunes is ENOUGH of a reason to stay away from iPhone.

friend:That hulu is not the full hulu you are running. And the point is the phone is not meant to play Hulu. You have to clear the cache often, and there will be a lot of errors and glitches, for example you can't hit back when you are watching hulu. You lose a lot of functionality. It is a bit choppy and you cannot get away from it. Also if you do ... See Morefull screen it messes up the frame rate. Like I mentioned, it is not optimized to play on that phone thus the experience of watching it will be not as be good as a desktop. Plus you have to do work to make stuff like hulu play. With iPhone, anything that it claims it can do it does with ease and simplicity. People don't want to do a whole lot of extra work just to get simple things to work..that is why Apple's stocks have sky rocketed and why apple is taking over.

Yes everyone uses flash because that's what was out first. That does not mean it is the most efficient platform for animations and websites. I had a flash website and I have played around with Flash programming. It is terrible, just to make minor tweaks you have to do a lot of work. Flash was made for PCs in the windows era. The mobile era is about touch interfaces, low power devices, and open web standards- all of which flash falls short in. Apple's mobile devices have the richest media experience and this just demonstrates that Flash is no longer necessary to watch video or animations. The 200,000+ apps on Apple's App Store proves that Flash isn't necessary for tens of thousands of developers to create graphically rich applications, including games. iPhone has more games and graphic intensive applications right now than android will have in the next few years and none of them use flash. HTML5, will win on mobile devices. I'm sure adobe will soon focus on creating great HTML5 tools for the future, and leave flash behind.

You can mess with your phone all you want to make it work. Myself and most other consumers want their phones to work without additional tweaks and hacks, and frankly I'd rather do other things and mod my phone to make it work the way I want it too. You can hack and tweak your phone for ages, but whatever you do can't compare with the out of the box performance of the iPhone. I'm sure after all your mods, hacks, and tweaks the iPhone will still run faster, smoother and will provide a much better user experience (and they already demonstrated this with the iPhone 3gs, not even the iPhone 4). I think the top engineers in the world that developed the hardware and OS on the iPhone know how to optimize that phone out of the box better than you will with your hacks and mods on the android system. I'll leave it to them to make it work for me out of the box, while you can fiddle around with the android until you get it to do what you want it to do. So have fun messing with the internal clock speed, doing hacks and what not, while we all use our iPhone to do what we want it to do.

And the nexus one IS DONE. That's from google themselves, they stopped making that particular phone. Look it up, and they said they are not even sure if they will ever follow up with a successor to nexus one because the sales were so terrible. For engadget..."The Google Phone is dead, people -- long live the Google Phone." And google said something along those lines as well. I never said the software android was discontinued, I said nexus one was which is 100% the case.

Apple has made Microsoft history. Their stocks are higher and the growth is far more than microsoft...and microsoft is declining. Yes most computers are PCs, because apple is new. When windows came out and that was the best thing everyone went with that and now most businesses are based off windows. Soon that trend will change, the only thing that will hold them back possibly is cost. But it is clear that apple has the superior OS and hardware. 9 out of 10 computers use windows...possibly, but it takes time for the switch to happen when big companies and hospitals are already based on windows. Take UM hospital for example, people in charge of informatics there would love to switch to apple but their whole system is already based on windows and to make the switch is a huge cost and would have to change their entire system. Clearly they know that the apple OS is far better, they are just stuck for now because the change would require too much.

iAds is pretty annoying, but in the long run it's what lets us get apps for cheap since the developers are getting paid because of iAds. Take the game doodle jump, 3.99 on android market...in app store, .99 and works a lot better on iphone since that's what it was originally developed for. So in the end, iAds save me money.

iTunes really is not that complicated, they made it idiot proof. Another reason apple sells so much, it's idiot proof. You really have to be computer illiterate to not make things like iTunes work for you.

All that being said, you can take your nexus one and put it next to an iPhone 4. Give those two to anyone and I am certain just the display alone will make people never want to look at any other phone again. And the display is a big part of the experience, everything you do depends on the vibrance and sharpness of the display. Even the 3Gs display was better than nexus one, and EVO 4g etc despite having less pixels...because apple uses different technology. I'm not even going to compare the display of the iPhone 4 with any other phone because that's just over kill. Same thing with touch screen technology...no other phone will ever match the fluidity because apple uses completely different technology for touch screen.

You can give any reason you want to justify the money you spent on your nexus one, but fact is it cannot compare to the thought and innovation that went into the iPhone to provide an unmatched user experience. True AT&T isn't the best and the plan costs more than other carriers. Certainly if I was on sprint or verizon and stuck, and iPhone didn't exist I would be happy with my android phones. But if someone is willing to pay for the plan and to put up with AT&T, then there is no better phone than the iPhone. Not even close. You're just one person claiming the nexus one is better. We'll let the sales, the users, and the reviewers further confirm how far ahead the iphone 4 is compared to android phones. And you should form your opinion after trying both. I have had both, 3Gs and android....and even the 3Gs pulls out ahead. So I know the iPhone 4 will be far far ahead.

me:You are such an idiot it's best if you save the rest of us oxygen by holding your breath indefinitely.

"That hulu is not the full hulu you are running",

What the ****? It is the DESKTOP version of the site, not a mobile version. So what the hell do you mean not the full hulu? And the flash on my phone isn't HARDWARE accelerated yet, it's still BETA. I wonder if a computer illiterate moron like you even knows what that means. IT IS BETA. I doubt you've coded anything in your life since you don't even understand what beta or hardware acceleration mean.

And lets say that even after it is hardware accelerated that it's not as good as the desktop version. At least I can view it if I choose to. I have CHOICE. You do not. You can't view it no matter what. I can.

"People don't want to do a whole lot of extra work just to get simple things to work."

But people WANT things to work, like flash, and guess what, flash doesn't work on Apple, no matter HOW hard you try. You lose.

"You can mess with your phone all you want to make it work. Myself and most other consumers want their phones to work without additional tweaks and hacks"

I have never once cleared the cache of the browser on my phone. I have no glitches, no hang ups, nothing of the sort, my phone runs super smooth and it's without ANY tweaks at the moment....and I have the CHOICE of tweaking it if I find something I want to improve, or if a developer adds a cool feature to a custom OS, whereas you're stuck.

Stop making **** up when it's obvious you've never used the phone, or have probably used a low end android phone like a G1 or something. Everything works on my phone, ALWAYS.

You have this idiotic assumption that any phone but the iphone freezes and has glitches, and doesn't do what we want it to do? Where do you get off? You are the biggest apple sheep I've met in a long time. Just because your god Steve Jobs tells you that no other phones work except the iPhone, that doesn't mean ****.

I'll tell you what doesn't work on your phone that works on high end android devices:

1) Flash support - try to downplay the importance of it as much as you want, but people want it.
2) Free GPS turn by turn navigation from Google. Enjoy paying 70 dollars or whatever for your garmin app.
3) USB mass storage - I can use my phone as a hard drive, and put on files and take off files as I please. No need for itunes, no need for jailbreaking.
4) 4G data speeds.

Now lets see what works on the iPhone but doesn't work on my Nexus, or the Incredible or Evo.

Nothing.

Read loud and clear and try to get this through your thick head: MY ANDROID PHONE WORKS PERFECTLY AND FLAWLESSLY AT ALL TIMES WITHOUT GIVING ME ANY PROBLEMS, IT WORKS SUPER SMOOTH OUT OF THE BOX, AND IS ***MORE*** CAPABLE THAN THE IPHONE. Get it? Or was that not simple enough for you?

And since you have amnesia, we already have HTML5 on our phones!! So we have the choice of flash and HTML5. Do you? No. You lose.

"Yes most computers are PCs, because apple is new."

Are you mentally retarded or just prefer to be willfully ignorant? In 1984, Apple next launched the Macintosh. Windows 1.0 was not released until November 1985. How the hell is Apple new?? And if you wanna know history, which you clearly don't, Apple stole the GUI idea from Xerox, then Microsoft stole it and made it better, and then Apple tried to sue Microsoft for stealing what they themselves stole! Obviously the case didn't go very far because you can't say "hey we stole it first, so it's ours." That's the kinda **** company Apple is.

"I never said the software android was discontinued, I said nexus one was which is 100% the case."

Friday, May 14 Google Inc. announced that it will close its online store which was established to market its Nexus One phone, but now the Internet giant is opting to shift to traditional retail outlets to sell its product.

Why don't you try reading the story BEYOND just the headlines for a change? Or does that require too much attention span for the average iPhone user like yourself?

"iTunes really is not that complicated, they made it idiot proof. Another reason apple sells so much, it's idiot proof. You really have to be computer illiterate to not make things like iTunes work for you."

iTunes is not difficult to use but it is a completely unnecessary bloatware that I should NEVER be forced to install on my computer or to use. You are forced on the other hand. I want to have my phone behave as a secondary drive, not have to use some bloatware to do SIMPLE things like putting music on my phone. So who has to work harder to get **** to work on their phone? You or me?

" Even the 3Gs display was better than nexus one."

Here again you prove that you're such a moron, that you're most likely confusing the G1 with the Nexus One. Get your head out of your ass. Look at ANY review online of the Nexus One vs the iPhone, and they'll all tell you how much sharper and more vibrant the screen is on the nexus. After using my Nexus, and trying to read on the iphone 3Gs makes me want to rub my eyes because I feel my vision is blurred. Absolutely idiotic statement, and proof you have no clue what you're talking about. The iPhone 4 will have a higher resolution than the Nexus One, but at 3.5 inches I think you'll be hard pressed to tell the difference between 960x640 and 800x400. There's a certain point when your eyes can't tell the difference between pixels, and the Nexus already reached it. What Apple is counting on is idiots like you who've never used a high end Android like the Nexus one or HTC Droid Incredible, to simply compare how it looks to the 3Gs and of course it will look better so you'll think "wow, now THIS is the greatest screen ever, as my 3GS was until this very moment."

"Same thing with touch screen technology...no other phone will ever match the fluidity because apple uses completely different technology for touch screen."

Here you go making **** up again. What touch screen fluidity issues do the Droid Incredible or EVO have? Where's your proof? None. Now I'm not gonna just make **** up and say that the iPhone's touch screen sensor is worse, because it's not true. You on the other hand keep making unsubstantiated claims, proving you are talking out of your ass. You lose.

" there is no better phone than the iPhone. Not even close. You're just one person claiming the nexus one is better. We'll let the sales, the users, and the reviewers further confirm how far ahead the iphone 4 is compared to android phones."

According to that logic, Bad Boys II is a better movie than the Shawshank Redemption because the former made 262 million, and the latter only made 60. Just because most people are sheep and shell out money due to heavy advertising and marketing doesn't mean the product they are getting is superior.

There is only ONE thing I like about the iPhone compared to my nexus, and that is video recording quality. I'll give you that. So if that is super important to you, go get the iPhone and waste your money.

On every other front, there is no way in HELL I'd pay good money for a crippled, locked down phone. Besides the video recording quality, there is not a single reason to get an iPhone over a high end Android device.


If you typed this on your Nexus, you are a GOD!! Longest post ever!! Good read tho...:)

...And yes I had to quote the whole post.
 

big_adventure

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One thing about performance - there is no way that the iPhone 4 is as fast as a Nexus running FroYo - and I say this because every reviewer has stated that the iPhone 4 is no real speed upgrade over a 3GS, which the N1 KILLS. I have both on my desk in front of me. Pretty much everyone assumes that Apple down-clocked the A4 for phone use to save battery, and if that is the case -

I have the following devices sitting in front of me on my desk:

Nexus One (FroYo, AVS .34 kernel, clocked to 998 for the test)
iPad 32G 3G
iPhone 3GS 16GB (work phone)
iPod Touch (latest generation, 32GB)

Browsing to any site on the web over WiFi and the performance order is:

Nexus > iPad > iPod touch > iPhone 3GS (though those last two are VERY close)

Sunspider benchmarking, lower score is better:

(Average of 3 tests per device)

N1: 6349
iPad: 9891
iPhone 3GS: 16044
iPod Touch: 15890

And going to fancast.com - well, my Nexus has Flash and I can watch whatever they have. For example.

My nexus, for all that everyone (including me) complains about it's radio, humiliates the radio on the iPhone, in both WiFi and 3G -

From my desk (again), the Speedtest.net app gives (today):

Nexus One Down 700kbps, up 1600kbps, ping 95ms
iPad Down 600kbps, up 500kbps, ping 125ms
iPhone 3GS Down 80-250kbps, up 45-150kbps, ping 450-4900ms (not a joke)
Motorola Milestone (just to show what is possible here) Down 2900kbps, up 1700kbps, ping 100ms.

This is in Paris (OK, La Défense), using Orange for all the devices (swapping SIM between iPhone, Nexus and Milestone, for the test, in fact - the iPad can't take a full-size SIM and does NOT have the same contract, but is still on the same carrier and same network)

So I would be absolutely, positively SHOCKED if the iPhone 4 even approached the performance of the Nexus 1. Plus, as anyone with any of these phones knows, you'll be charging every day anyway, so just get over that and hope that you have a battery that can last until the end of the day.

So, here are my ratings:

Ease of use: iPhone (can't even argue this)

Consistency of interface, system, etc.: iPhone (again: tight control = consistency)

Screen: Tie - I have an IPS-equiped iPad, and it is worse outside than my Nexus one with AMOLED. The iPhone has better resolution, but has anyone ever complained about the Nexus resolution?

Battery: Slight plus for iPhone - Well, you're going to charge them both every day anyway. That said, you'll get about the same amount of "smartphone" out of them both, but the iPhone will kill the Nexus or other Android phones on media playback, like local music and video.

Multitasking: Slight to Big for Android - it's there, it works, and it works with anything. Yeah, you kind of need to make sure that nothing runs away and eats your battery on WakeLock, but... iPhone is going to be on rev 1 with this, apps have to be re-written / re-compiled to take advantage of the 7 opened multitasking APIs. Yes, there will probably be less risk of runaways.

Notifications: HUGE for Android. This isn't even close and really can't be argued. The ONLY iPhone advantage was their push notification system open to any dev, and Google is giving us even that with FroYo. EVERYTHING else is better on Google.

Cloud integration: BIG for Android, especially if you use GMail, GTalk, etc., OR any IM system.

Applications: Still a pretty big advantage for iPhone - basically, the fact that there is no size limit means devs can just make better apps in certain genres without cutting corners, kludging, etc. Yes, Android is coming up in this regard, but it's not there yet.

Form factor and design: iPhone is beautiful, solid and super-thin, Android lets you change batteries and add external Flash. Call it a tie.

Controls: Pure (and awesome, it must be said) touchscreen versus touchscreen + softkeys + ball (for the N1). Well, I'm not a huge fan of the softkeys, BUT, when I used an iPhone, I thought that the text selection, cursor placement, etc., wasn't bad. Now, having passed through BlackBerry land on my way to Android-ville, I have really come to appreciate the trackball for this function and this function only. Specifically after I started using my iPad, my GOD am I sick of tap / hold / pray / change angles / drag slightly / wait / retap / redrag / etc. Why the hell couldn't Apple have put 4 tiny directional keys, at least, on the iPad keyboard to make this precision task less of a freaking nightmare? WHY??????? Anyway, call it a wash - some people won't like trackballs, and it IS a moving part, but the lack of rapid cursor placement on the iPhone makes up for this.

Sync and backup/restore: Sync is easy if sometimes scary on the iThings. Sync is stupidly flexible but a little more effort-driven on Android. Hard to call a winner here - different strokes for different folks. I prefer Android, 'cause I like to know where my s#17 is and what my s#17 is doing.

Customization: OK, this is kind of a joke. There is no contest, Android wipes the floor - stock Android is about as good as a JB iPhone, and with a rooted Android, the sky (or the floor, if you douche it) is the limit.

OK, that's my $1.37
 

big_adventure

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Aw, thanks, you guys are making me blush.

I realized when I finished that I left off:

CLARIFCATION - this entire discussion is comparing iPhone 4 to Android, and, specifically, a Nexus One.

Navigation: Google Turn-by-Turn absolutely smokes anything out there when you consider performance/price. The only downside (and potentially a pretty serious one) is that you need a data connection when you first load the directions (it'll cache the directions after). This is no big deal in your own country, but can get expensive in another one. Either search out WiFi, or buy a data pack if you need this when you are far from home. On the other hand, the iPhone has more, and better, paid options, though a fluky compass and a, let's see, I think that the technical term is "piss-poor" GPS compromise the experience a little.

Maps: These just work better in Android - there are more options to add, more layers, etc.

App registration: This is one place in app-land where Android still trumps iPhone. Any app on your phone can register itself as a provider for nearly any function. This means that, from the Gallery, if you click "Share", you will get a list of every application that has registered itself as capable of handling photos (for example). Third party apps included. Try that on an iPhone, where the only way to post a photo to Facebook, for example, is to do it from the Facebook app.

Attachments to emails: In Android, you can, well, do this from inside the email OR from the Gallery OR from your favorite file program! Ah, sweet choices.

OK, that'll do it.
 

nexus5894

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RE: Apple VS Android

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"[*]Screen Resolution - iPhone 4 Win"
Although the screen resolution on the iPhone 4 is overall better, most apps on iPhone are designed for HVGA screens and won't look at all good on the higher resolution screen. Android apps since 1.6 have had native scaling, even on 3D games.
"[*]Multitouch - iPhone always implementing it well. iPhone is more than 2 touch where this is main drawback of Nexus One."
We're also comparing the EVO here, and that has a MaxTouch screen which beats the iPhone screen in many ways- unlimited touch points as opposed to 5, better close point detection. The Nexus unfortunately uses the Synaptic Clearpad 2000 which is not so good, though the Synaptic 3000 is nearly as good as the Maxtouch.
"[*]Customization - Android win, android more freedom and greatly support widget. iPhone interface the only can change is wallpaper and icons (after jailbreak)" agreed
"[*]Battery Life - can't ready said now yet but Apple is well good on it previous iPhone devices. Nexus One battery is ready bad, I need charging everyday." All android devices at the moment have changeable batteries and all the phones on the Nexus One base (Nexus, Desire, Incredible) have great battery life.
"[*]Apps - Equal"
"[*]Games & Fun - iPhone win, Android only got few high quality games compare with tons of iPhone." Agreed, but this'll change.
"[*]Video Record- I give to iPhone, remember iPhone have a stunning editing function on video recording. iPhone3Gs video record already better than Nexus One, I hardly find any ghost effect on it, due to this, I believe quality of iPhone 4 video record shall be better than it."- I agree concerning iMovie on the iPhone, Android has nothing close. But I do not agree at all with your iPhone-Nexus comparison. The 3GS shoots VGA in PORTRAIT for god's sake while the Nexus shoots at DVD quality and up to 720p with a quick hack or 800x 600 with an even quicker one.
"[*]Folder - iPhone 4 OS is perfectly great on this." No. No. The things you can add to an Android folder make it superior, even if they are not quite as good looking"
"[*]Copy & Paste - the way iPhone implement it still the best and easier." Compared to the Nexus, yes, but HTC sense has amazing copy and paste, at least as good as the iPhone.
"[*]Screen size - Nexus One win, how come iPhone 4 still same 3.5 inch." EVO Epic Win.
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** I also got iPod touch, that why I never interested on iPhone, iPhone 3G and iPhone 3Gs, but this iPhone 4 is something different, which make me tempting ont it. :D
 

Blueman101

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(complicated quoting stuff removed, using quotation marks instead)
"[*]Screen Resolution - iPhone 4 Win"
Although the screen resolution on the iPhone 4 is overall better, most apps on iPhone are designed for HVGA screens and won't look at all good on the higher resolution screen. Android apps since 1.6 have had native scaling, even on 3D games.
"[*]Multitouch - iPhone always implementing it well. iPhone is more than 2 touch where this is main drawback of Nexus One."
We're also comparing the EVO here, and that has a MaxTouch screen which beats the iPhone screen in many ways- unlimited touch points as opposed to 5, better close point detection. The Nexus unfortunately uses the Synaptic Clearpad 2000 which is not so good, though the Synaptic 3000 is nearly as good as the Maxtouch.
"[*]Customization - Android win, android more freedom and greatly support widget. iPhone interface the only can change is wallpaper and icons (after jailbreak)" agreed
"[*]Battery Life - can't ready said now yet but Apple is well good on it previous iPhone devices. Nexus One battery is ready bad, I need charging everyday." All android devices at the moment have changeable batteries and all the phones on the Nexus One base (Nexus, Desire, Incredible) have great battery life.
"[*]Apps - Equal"
"[*]Games & Fun - iPhone win, Android only got few high quality games compare with tons of iPhone." Agreed, but this'll change.
"[*]Video Record- I give to iPhone, remember iPhone have a stunning editing function on video recording. iPhone3Gs video record already better than Nexus One, I hardly find any ghost effect on it, due to this, I believe quality of iPhone 4 video record shall be better than it."- I agree concerning iMovie on the iPhone, Android has nothing close. But I do not agree at all with your iPhone-Nexus comparison. The 3GS shoots VGA in PORTRAIT for god's sake while the Nexus shoots at DVD quality and up to 720p with a quick hack or 800x 600 with an even quicker one.
"[*]Folder - iPhone 4 OS is perfectly great on this." No. No. The things you can add to an Android folder make it superior, even if they are not quite as good looking"
"[*]Copy & Paste - the way iPhone implement it still the best and easier." Compared to the Nexus, yes, but HTC sense has amazing copy and paste, at least as good as the iPhone.
"[*]Screen size - Nexus One win, how come iPhone 4 still same 3.5 inch." EVO Epic Win.
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** I also got iPod touch, that why I never interested on iPhone, iPhone 3G and iPhone 3Gs, but this iPhone 4 is something different, which make me tempting ont it. :D

what?! you wack man!
 

steelbom

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I felt like replying to the OP's original comments, I thought some of them were wrong (this will be a long post :p).
4G - HTC EVO 4G is the first phone in the US to support 4G. Ironically Apple’s new phone is code named iPhone 4, but does not support 4G. Step your game up Apple. We live in a world that demands SPEED. I doubt AT&T’s 3G speeds can compete with Sprint’s 4G. (Winner - Android)
The iPhone 4 supports faster than 3G speeds, AT&T doesn't yet, when they do, the iPhone 4 will be ready.
Video Chat over 3G - I’m sorry Apple. If I wanted to video chat on my WiFi connection, I would head over to my Mac. Thanks for trying though. (Winner - Android)
FaceTime (video chat) will be available over the cellular network eventually, AT&T couldn't handle it. SJ's has said that FaceTime will be WiFi only for 2010, when FaceTime supports the cellular network (when AT&T do) it'll likely use WiFi if available, otherwise the cellular network.

Video chat over WiFi will yield much better quality video than over the cellular network, I think supporting both the cellular network and WiFi is best.
So, for the moment Android handsets that support this win, but the iPhone 4 will come out on top eventually, unless an Android handset incorporates video chat over WiFi, then they'll be even.

Personally, I can't think of a situation where I'd be wanting to make a video call, and have no WiFi around, but that's just me.
Battery - 300 hours of standby is amazing. With 7 hours of 3G talk, and 40 hours of music, some nights you won’t even need to charge your phone. Only If somehow Android were to acquire Apple’s battery. (Winner - iPhone)
Indeed its pretty impressive, particularly with an IPS display and a 960x640 screen resolution. 10 hours of web browsing via WiFi and 6 via 3G is pretty good too.
Customization - It’s not even close. Apple finally let users put their own background in the new iOS 4. Really Apple? My old Nokia e90 had this feature 5 years ago. Android has LIVE wallpapers, normal wallpapers, widgets, folders, and much more. (Winner - Android)
That's most definitely true, the Android OS wins vs the iOS 4 in that regard.
Applications (Tie) Apple’s application approval process is very slow and sometimes takes months! This causes frustrated developers, and sometimes developers even quit leaving the application on the app store with no more future updates. ALA Facebook Developer. Android is SO simple. Develop your application and just click “submit application”. Soon Android will gather the attention they deserve. Yes, Apple does have the better applications, but Android is new, and with 4G rolling out, the future is bright. (Tie)
This isn't a tie. iOS 4 wins by a milestone, and I'll explain why:

Firstly, it doesn't take months to approve applications, I'd say no more than a week, maybe two if your app is really large and complex. SJ's has said every week they get 15,000 app submissions (including updates) and 95% of them are approved. The Facebook developer obviously had an issue with Apple, it's not hard to follow their simple rules (which all are about making high quality easy to use apps). Apple has said there are three major reasons apps are rejected: Private APIs, apps crashing, and apps that don't do what they say they do. Apple rejects these apps and then the developers can fix those issues and re-submit the app.

You make it sound like the Android Marketplace is better because it doesn't require approval of apps, Apple only filters out the junk to make sure we get a better experience.
I ask, how many apps in the Marketplace are falsely advertised, malicious, crash often, etc.?
Variety - No matter what cellular service you are with, you always will have a choice to get yourself an android device. With over 30+ phones on Verizon, T-Mobile, AT&T, and Sprint, anyone has a chance to go Android. (Winner - Android)
Well, that's definitely true. IMO Apple needs to allow different carriers with the iPhone, they'd have a huge boom in sales.
Multitasking - Android’s multi tasking is incredible. Android’s main feature is the notification bar, something iPhone will never have. Yes, Apple finally will support multi tasking, but it has no chance against Android. (Winner - Android)
Actually no, the iPhone 4 wins here. I'll explain:

I quote this:
Phone 4 will add seven different multitasking services for developers, each tuned to solve different multitasking scenarios.

One, demonstrated by Pandora’s Internet radio streaming app, will allow apps like it to play music in the background, with playback controls available even at the lock screen.
A second example involves VoIP (Voice over IP), which enables apps like Skype to continue to receive calls even when it is not the foreground app.

A third mechanism is background location, which can be used by direction apps such as TomTom or social media apps like Loopt. Rather than constantly polling GPS (something that kills the battery rapidly) the new system calculates location from cellular sites
A fourth and fifth enhancement relates to Apple’s existing push notification service and a new “local notifications” service that allows apps to post reminders or other events without using Apple’s servers.

A sixth feature, task completion, will enable an app to start a job and continue working on it after the user leaves the app. And example given cited an app posting photos to Flicker, which continued working after the user left that app.
The seventh multitasking mechanism is fast app switching, which “allows you to restore the state of an app when you switch out and back,” is the easiest to implement, essentially freezing the progress of an app such as a game while the user handles another task in another app.

Applications that support multitasking don't run in the background like they do on Android (I'm assuming this is how Android's multitasking works, correct me if I'm wrong), but the OS runs the code that the app needs to execute in the background to provide the necessary functionality without the negative impact on battery life and performance.

So, in a nutshell, applications can do all the same things that they could if they were running in the background, but without the negative side effects.
Folders - This is very disappointing how this feature is one the biggest features in the new iOS 4. Folders was introduced in Android 3 years ago. Welcome to Earth, Steve Jobs. Apple does deserve credit. iPhone’s folders does seem a slight upgrade compared to the current folders on Android. (Winner - Apple)
Unlike on Android which has widgets and other information occupying the screen (correct me if I'm wrong), the iPhone only has little app icons, so the folders, although a much welcome addition, they haven't been entirely necessary (until now).
Physical Keyboards - Want a touchscreen? Get an EVO or Nexus One. Want a keyboard? Get the Droid or Devour. Simple as that. (Winner - Android)
I agree, the iPhone will never get a physical keyboard, so if you're after one then an Android phone is probably the better choice.
Tethering- Share your 3G or 4G Internet with your iPad, MAC, or PC. It was hilarious how Google demonstrated the new Android tether feature by tethering with the iPad. (Winner - Android)
This is more of a restriction from AT&T, in Australia where I live, I've tethered to my Mac from my iPhone 3GS many times.
Speed - No one can really tell how fast that new A4 chip will be on the iPhone 4. Until then, this is a draw with Android’s Snapdragon 1GHZ Processor. (Tie)
Considering the size of the A4 and the very small amount of heat it generates, its likely the iPhone 4 will have the 1GHz A4, which is about 40% faster than the 1GHz SnapDragon according to what I've read.
On a side note - iPhone users need to Jailbreak or hack their phones to get it as good as Android. That’s sad. Yes, there is jailbreaking for android, but its not that silly little changing themes and getting free apps. Jailbreaking for nexus gives you a choice to switch between different android devices such as having the EVO/Sense UI on a nexus one. Andy
I don't know anything about jailbreaking an Android, but if you jailbreak an iPhone you can pretty much do anything you want to it (including changing the UI with the WinterBoard app)
FLASH - I remember waiting impatiently for the Froyo leak for my Nexus One just a few weeks back. I couldn't wait to try Flash 10.1 Beta. It’s been two weeks and I can’t remember the last time I used Flash. This is very sad. Maybe Steve Jobs was right after all. Regardless, Flash opens up opportunities. Android users can now go away from the market and play their favorite online game, or even watch their favorite TV Shows.
(Winner - Android)
I'd like to have the option to enable the flash plugin on the iPhone (not that I expect I'd use it much), but I doubt it'll happen. Apple is pushing HTML5 hard, and it will eventually replace flash in terms of video, HTML5 is open source and isn't a plugin, HTML5 is a much better solution to video on the internet.

I was glad to find out that apps not designed for the new Retina display (which apparently makes pictures, video, text, controls, etc., look as good as on a fine printed book) on the iPhone 4 aren't going to run pixel double and look very pixelated like on the iPad.
According to SJ's, the OS will automatically draw the controls (including text) to suit the higher resolution display, so the only thing that needs to be updated in that app to make it look as if it was made just for the iPhone 4, is higher resolution images.