Question Is the x90 pro+ unlock realistically difficult?

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extremecarver

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I'm pretty sure we won't see any rooting / bootloader unlock on Vivo X90 anytime. Internationally the X90 and X90 pro will not sell at all, due to being overpriced like crazy. And in China other phones seem to be selling much better too. The x90 pro+ will be rather exotic - Vivo mainly sells cheap stuff in China. Samsung, Apple, Oppo and Xiaomi are the main brands for flagships in China.
 
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I'm pretty sure we won't see any rooting / bootloader unlock on Vivo X90 anytime. Internationally the X90 and X90 pro will not sell at all, due to being overpriced like crazy. And in China other phones seem to be selling much better too. The x90 pro+ will be rather exotic - Vivo mainly sells cheap stuff in China. Samsung, Apple, Oppo and Xiaomi are the main brands for flagships in China.
Yes, but their hardware is superior to most others. All they need is a decent OS and they'll blow Samsung away.
 

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But currently vivo has amongst the worst and unreliable OS which exists. Even rooting won't solve this as on a custom ROM camera won't work well.
Google and Apple demonstrate that mid level hardware with good software beats best hardware...

Samsung Galaxy ultra are hardware wise usually also top of the game (so far they just suffered from the Samsung node processors).

And Samsung has a reliable update policy, while vivo after 2 years already goes haywire with infrequent updates on flagships
 
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But currently vivo has amongst the worst and unreliable OS which exists. Even rooting won't solve this as on a custom ROM camera won't work well.
Google and Apple demonstrate that mid level hardware with good software beats best hardware...

Samsung Galaxy ultra are hardware wise usually also top of the game (so far they just suffered from the Samsung node processors).

And Samsung has a reliable update policy, while vivo after 2 years already goes haywire with infrequent updates on flagships
Agreed. Thing is, rooting can effectively rewrite the included OS by giving the user the ability to remove certain things and alter others.
 
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extremecarver

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What exactly can't you do with adb that will improve reliability of notifications or get google fully working? I don't think there is something. Also you need to lock again for banking apps
 

extremecarver

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Nope banking apps works great with unlocked bootloader. Did that an all my 30+ phones i had until I got this vivo.
I meant rooting. Unlocked bootloader would maybe allow to switch to funtouch, however this didn't fully work on previous vivo x devices when unlocking bootloader worked due to a bug.
Switching to lineage os or similar and you can forget about the camera.

Rooting on the other hand cause problems with banking apps, and will not help to get full google services or stability bugs removed. you can usually undo the root for them to work or hide it. But besides being able to for example check if update level actually corresponds with announced update levels you can basically do all this with adb too.
 

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I meant rooting. Unlocked bootloader would maybe allow to switch to funtouch, however this didn't fully work on previous vivo x devices when unlocking bootloader worked due to a bug.
Switching to lineage os or similar and you can forget about the camera.

Rooting on the other hand cause problems with banking apps, and will not help to get full google services or stability bugs removed. you can usually undo the root for them to work or hide it. But besides being able to for example check if update level actually corresponds with announced update levels you can basically do all this with adb too.
Rooting and bank apps isn't a problem at all. You just need to do some workarounds and it's absolutely fine.

The worst part is the stock camera.

I could imagine you could maybe implement Google apps with magisk since there are some magisk modules for that. I have never tried that and i don't know it's really working or not.
 

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Oh yeah I would love root because it allows for full Backup and restore. The vivo apps are rubbish for backup. That's the main reason. But it will not help with any issues.
 
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Unless Pervokur pulls another one of his magic tricks bootloader unlock will NOT be possible.
Besides that, converting your device from OriginOS to Funtouch bares a huge brick risk and certain things are not working on the x70 pro+.
I don't own device with origin os, also I'm too lazy to dig my fun touch phone farther (lol, I didn't even try to manipulate device with AT commands [atcid_factory and others binaries]. Since people can install com.vivo.vtool then you can try to dig firmware with uid1000. First step is to analyze all *.rc scripts and what can you do with setprop.
 

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So i have the x90 pro plus. ordered from shenzhen.

It was already in develeoper mode when i recieved it. I downlaoded the chinese 2.3 version of the vivo usb driver and i ma able to use UAD without any problems. Havent tried to flash a new OS onto it yet. Still considering if it is worth it, since it is a company phone
 

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But currently vivo has amongst the worst and unreliable OS which exists. Even rooting won't solve this as on a custom ROM camera won't work well.
Google and Apple demonstrate that mid level hardware with good software beats best hardware...

Samsung Galaxy ultra are hardware wise usually also top of the game (so far they just suffered from the Samsung node processors).

And Samsung has a reliable update policy, while vivo after 2 years already goes haywire with infrequent updates on flagships
From my point of view Samsung is crap beyond belief.
I have a Vivo x 80 pro now and I am very happy with it.
It came with Funtouch and I have absolutely no reason to complain.
With Xiaomi 11 Ultra I was also quite satisfied. I bought it from China, unlocked it and installed the EU ROM
 

grizzly789

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is already possible unlock bootloader on phone X90 pro plus? and install there international funtouch OS ,with all supported languages? i plan to buy pro plus and want to know if its possible already, thnxs
 

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Why would you want Funtouch OS?
why why? what do You think why? maybe he want to have support his own languange location/language which is not present in chinese origin os rom.. or he want to have all fully functional google apps support and google playstore and also for example to have fully functional android auto ..or simply bcs You dont want to have there all annoying chinese bloatware and annoying disgusting advertisment.. ..and i should be continue, etc. etc etc. why much more prefer funtouch os -there we can always find many reasons why .. moreover funtouch os i suppouse is way much better for non chinese users ,specially for europeans users thats why me also waiting for possibility unlocking bootloader by X90 pro+ to have there fully functional funtouch instead origin os (same like doing xiaomi-thats the way for users, how easy there to unlock bootoader and install different rom)
 
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    So run the bloatware removal script I made and remove those Chinese apps.

    The OriginOS supports basically every major language I can think of. You really think Funtouch is going to do better?

    What proof you have that FuntouchOS is better for non Chinese users? All of us using OriginOS are basically not having any problems.

    You want to root the phone, remove a perfectly working OS just to install another "just because"? and then lose device security and play store integrity and banking and payment apps etc? Not very smart. Definitely doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
    Look at the xiaomi and miui eu community.. they doing it already several years without any problem, You can unlock bootloader and install this popular rom or whatever rom You want to have there.. thats real freedom for users.. why not able to do that for example vivo or oppo? why they year after year so strictly in that and not give a users freedom and put there what they want to have there? why that misunderstandable way?
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    Look at the xiaomi and miui eu community.. they doing it already several years without any problem, You can unlock bootloader and install this popular rom or whatever rom You want to have there.. thats real freedom for users.. why not able to do that for example vivo or oppo? why they year after year so strictly in that and not give a users freedom and put there what they want to have there? why that misunderstandable way?
    The Xiaomi community is the Xiaomi community. You're comparing apples to oranges.
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    Unless Pervokur pulls another one of his magic tricks bootloader unlock will NOT be possible.
    Besides that, converting your device from OriginOS to Funtouch bares a huge brick risk and certain things are not working on the x70 pro+.
    I don't own device with origin os, also I'm too lazy to dig my fun touch phone farther (lol, I didn't even try to manipulate device with AT commands [atcid_factory and others binaries]. Since people can install com.vivo.vtool then you can try to dig firmware with uid1000. First step is to analyze all *.rc scripts and what can you do with setprop.
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    Would it be possible to flash gapps without unlock?
    I am really thinking about buying the Chinese version. I will keep the original os (no root) but I would need at least to install gapps. Possible?
    Yes . You can install gapps without root .
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    I don't know much about x90+ but considering that unlock was only possible on X80 pro on the 1st version of W10 models (12.0.10.5) using modified software and requiring some kind of 'hack' (sending 2 files at the same time from 2 terminals) and that this exploit was fixes basically for every single release after, I'd say that root isn't going to happen on x90 (at least not using the same method)
    yes. I hope that vivo will officially support unlock like oppo.
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    Have you purchased it? I am also considering buying it from China. Need unlock, root and lineage on it
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    Look at the xiaomi and miui eu community.. they doing it already several years without any problem, You can unlock bootloader and install this popular rom or whatever rom You want to have there.. thats real freedom for users.. why not able to do that for example vivo or oppo? why they year after year so strictly in that and not give a users freedom and put there what they want to have there? why that misunderstandable way?
    The Xiaomi community is the Xiaomi community. You're comparing apples to oranges.