Question Is there a way going back to one ui 3.1?

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Jan 28, 2022
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Hey yall,
So i updated my a52s a week ago to one ui 4, and this update just butcher my battery life and my phone in general.
Phone is laggy as hell
Animations are laggy
120hz feels like 60hz

Is there a safe way to get back to android 11 one ui 3.1?
will it harm any future updates or my phone?

Thanks in advanced
 

koimr

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I'm not aware of any "safe" way to go back a version.

Try and clear your cache partition or do a factory reset and see if that helps with the problems.
 

dexlemaffo

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Hey yall,
So i updated my a52s a week ago to one ui 4, and this update just butcher my battery life and my phone in general.
Phone is laggy as hell
Animations are laggy
120hz feels like 60hz

Is there a safe way to get back to android 11 one ui 3.1?
will it harm any future updates or my phone?

Thanks in advanced

Got the update yesterday (CSC - MWD). Once installed, I rebooted immediatly into recovery mode and wiped the cache. Rebooted once again and I can tell you that eveything is fine and even smoother than One UI 3.1 (except for Careem - The equivalent of Uber that did close once launched but I managed to grab the apk from their website and installed it manually, now it works like a charm).
Animation on my device is set on 120hz and enabled developer settings to set animations to 0.5x
 
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Why don't you do a factory reset as suggested by @koimr ???

I don't think all other A52 5G owners have the same problems than you...
Because i already done it, and its still messed up.

As far as reddit goes, im not the only one with a52s that has these problems.

This phone is brand new(2 months) and it worked like a charm untill this update..

I just hoped for a way to go back to 3.1
 
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Got the update yesterday (CSC - MWD). Once installed, I rebooted immediatly into recovery mode and wiped the cache. Rebooted once again and I can tell you that eveything is fine and even smoother than One UI 3.1 (except for Careem - The equivalent of Uber that did close once launched but I managed to grab the apk from their website and installed it manually, now it works like a charm).
Animation on my device is set on 120hz and enabled developer settings to set animations to 0.5x
Ill try that. Is it a common thing which i can find a guide on how to on youtube/google?

My device also was set since day 0 to 120hz. Everything was buttery smooth until oneui 4. Now everything feels laggy for some reason.
 

Arobase40

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Because i already done it, and its still messed up.

As far as reddit goes, im not the only one with a52s that has these problems.

This phone is brand new(2 months) and it worked like a charm untill this update..

I just hoped for a way to go back to 3.1

I myself own the same model than you and I don't have all the problems you're describing even after the Android 12 update and you should know I spent a long time flashing this phone over and over just to create the tutorial on how to root this device. I'm mostly missing full Magisk functions and TWRP...

I usually never buy a device since I'm sure there are functional root (via magisk) with TWRP but I messed up with the A526 4G model because A526 4G, A526 5G and A528 5G are all in the same thread and I discovered to late they are not all on the same boat !!! ^^

Anyway, why don't you create a new survey here on XDA asking how many of us has encounter the same issues than yours since Android 12 update ???
This is the best place to create this kind of survey don't you think so ??? ^^
 

Journyman16

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Hey yall,
So i updated my a52s a week ago to one ui 4, and this update just butcher my battery life and my phone in general.

Is there a safe way to get back to android 11 one ui 3.1?
will it harm any future updates or my phone?
I've recently been bouncing from UI 4 to UI 3.1 numerous times, trying to diagnose and fix an issue with my S20+ 5G - even used firmware from 2 different countries. (XSA & XSG)

Used Odin3 v13.14.4 which I think is the latest on Sammobile.

Note: BACKUP - I had a problem on one flash using HOME_CSC back to 3.1 where it bootlooped - I should have tried simply turn off then start from scratch to see if it cleared but instead I did a factory reset. So be prepared for needing a reset.

Note: Samsung and other backups do not backup your data - I used Super Backup to save out my Contacts, SMS's and Calls. Also used the Backup to External option - faster than to online account.

Another possibility I tried at the end that I should have done at the start when I had everything - Smart Switch to my S8 first, then I could have used SS to get everything back.
 

Journyman16

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So i updated my a52s a week ago to one ui 4, and this update just butcher my battery life and my phone in general.
Another point - it's not uncommon for a new firmware to use battery in what seems excessive amounts for the 1st day or so. I did see a technical explanation years back but I can't recall what it was.

It's a good idea to let it settle in a bit before trying corrections.
 

Arobase40

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I've recently been bouncing from UI 4 to UI 3.1 numerous times, trying to diagnose and fix an issue with my S20+ 5G - even used firmware from 2 different countries. (XSA & XSG)

Used Odin3 v13.14.4 which I think is the latest on Sammobile.

Note: BACKUP - I had a problem on one flash using HOME_CSC back to 3.1 where it bootlooped - I should have tried simply turn off then start from scratch to see if it cleared but instead I did a factory reset. So be prepared for needing a reset.

Note: Samsung and other backups do not backup your data - I used Super Backup to save out my Contacts, SMS's and Calls. Also used the Backup to External option - faster than to online account.

Another possibility I tried at the end that I should have done at the start when I had everything - Smart Switch to my S8 first, then I could have used SS to get everything back.

I was also thinking about the use of PC Odin and flashing a firmware but 2 things came into my mind :

1) We don't know if his phone is a branded one or from USA...
2) I guess @Justaquestion2 might be a totally noob guy, so need to propose a tricky procedure to him. lol

He said to me he already tried to do a hard reset and a wipe cache and then he asked to @dexlemaffo "Ill try that. Is it a common thing which i can find a guide on how to on youtube/google?".... ^^

EDIT : Smart Switch is THE Samsung backup solution.
 

Journyman16

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EDIT : Smart Switch is THE Samsung backup solution.
Not according to Samsung on the phone. :D

Plus it was less than useful in my case where I had NOT used it right at the start, so by the time I thought of the S8 I'd already had the impact of the other methods.

Luckily Super Backup and Swift Backup do a good job of backing up the essentials - I don't mind losing games scores but losing Contacts, SMS & Calls would have been a terrible thing.

Also, I figured if he didn't know Odin etc. he'd ask. I hadn't read all the thread, just responded to his OP.
 

Arobase40

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Not according to Samsung on the phone. :D
How can you say that ??? Might be a kinda blind guy as it is written everywhere ! ;)
It is distributed both from the Galaxy Store and from the Google Store as part of Samsung as many other tools from Samsung. Think to update it from time to time...
Plus it was less than useful in my case where I had NOT used it right at the start, so by the time I thought of the S8 I'd already had the impact of the other methods.

Luckily Super Backup and Swift Backup do a good job of backing up the essentials - I don't mind losing games scores but losing Contacts, SMS & Calls would have been a terrible thing.

With SmartSwitch you don't lose anything and mostly not Contacts, SMS, Calls and your settings, including the storage and so the backup could be very big if you have many audio and videos files... But you can exclude them from the list if you wish. I own 3 1 TB SDCards on my different phones and tablet (2 Galaxy Note9 with 256/512 GB storage and a Galaxy Tab S6 with 256 GB and now this A528B).
You can also do your backup on Samsung Cloud or on your PC with PC SmartSwtich...
Actually you lose a few things, but I think it's at purpose, even though I can't understand or at least I can't accept it is that SmartSwitch don't backup your themes and your back grounds anymore and also your Samsung password... ^^
It did it before but nomore now... At least with my A528B...
Also, I figured if he didn't know Odin etc. he'd ask. I hadn't read all the thread, just responded to his OP.
I used to help people for over 35 years on different medium, including at the time of Usenet and in Google groups and I know or I can guess when somebody don't or when he is lying lying because he won't admit he is a rookie or a totally noob. It's just a pity as he won't learn much and it's better to put the blame on the manufacturer or on someone else... ^^
 
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I used to help people for over 35 years on different medium, including at the time of Usenet and in Google groups and I know or I can guess when somebody don't or when he is lying lying because he won't admit he is a rookie or a totally noob. It's just a pity as he won't learn much and it's better to put the blame on the manufacturer or on someone else
Perhaps you didn't read my response correctly. It would be good to do that before calling someone a liar or noob. Did you even SEE this part?
Another possibility I tried at the end that I should have done at the start when I had everything - Smart Switch to my S8 first, then I could have used SS to get everything back

I didn't have a problem with smart switch - when I used it. It did not occur to me to pull out the S8 when I started this and Samsung tech service TOLD ME to use the back up to external card when I contacted them.

Not sure why you decided to be aggressive about it all.
 

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I don't know if the bootloader got updated with the update on the A52s. If that's the case then you're stuck with OneUI 4. If the bootloader wasn't updated then you could go back to OneUI 3.1 safely with Odin.
With a new major Android version, there is a new bootloader. A11 to A12 is a major update, so no going back. As to the OPs problem, you will soon find out what app, game or setting is causing your problem if you do your detective work. Factory reset and installation of apps and games one at a time. Some apps and games are not compatible with A12 yet.
 
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With a new major Android version, there is a new bootloader. A11 to A12 is a major update, so no going back. As to the OPs problem, you will soon find out what app, game or setting is causing your problem if you do your detective work. Factory reset and installation of apps and games one at a time. Some apps and games are not compatible with A12 yet.
Yeah, a bit time consuming but there must be something thats doing weird stuff in the background.
 
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I've recently been bouncing from UI 4 to UI 3.1 numerous times, trying to diagnose and fix an issue with my S20+ 5G - even used firmware from 2 different countries. (XSA & XSG)

Used Odin3 v13.14.4 which I think is the latest on Sammobile.

Note: BACKUP - I had a problem on one flash using HOME_CSC back to 3.1 where it bootlooped - I should have tried simply turn off then start from scratch to see if it cleared but instead I did a factory reset. So be prepared for needing a reset.

Note: Samsung and other backups do not backup your data - I used Super Backup to save out my Contacts, SMS's and Calls. Also used the Backup to External option - faster than to online account.

Another possibility I tried at the end that I should have done at the start when I had everything - Smart Switch to my S8 first, then I could have used SS to get everything back.
but using odin is safe for a future updates? it wont block me from future updates like rooting does?
contacts are stored in the sim card so that not a problem. call logs doesnt mind me to lose such as SMS.
pictures\videos - i can move to my laptop and then move it back to my phone.
apps - ill just download them again. not a big of a deal.

sorry for the dumb questions im just a rookie when it come to all of these firmware changes via 3rd party kind of things.

Another point - it's not uncommon for a new firmware to use battery in what seems excessive amounts for the 1st day or so. I did see a technical explanation years back but I can't recall what it was.

It's a good idea to let it settle in a bit before trying corrections.
its been a week already tbh.
ill give u a walk through:
120hz always on, AOD, WIFI+DATA always on. all of these since day 1.

- pre update - my battery dropped 7%-10% per hour of reddit\browsing\youtube\multitasking for my work.
- post update - 25% per hour on these very same tasks.

- pre update - not a single drop of % over night.
- post update - 3-5% drop over night.

- pre update - only charged it once a day - over night. phone lasted me for a complete day. no matter what i did, or how i pushed this phone to the edge, the battery didnt die at all. lowest i got is to 17%.
- post update - on the very same useage as before - charge it twice a day.

- pre update - no lags, 120hz felt like 120hz, phone was buttery smooth
- post update - lags while scrolling\swiping, 120hz feels like 90hz sometimes. feels like refresh drops, like system is lagging

I was also thinking about the use of PC Odin and flashing a firmware but 2 things came into my mind :

1) We don't know if his phone is a branded one or from USA...
2) I guess @Justaquestion2 might be a totally noob guy, so need to propose a tricky procedure to him. lol

He said to me he already tried to do a hard reset and a wipe cache and then he asked to @dexlemaffo "Ill try that. Is it a common thing which i can find a guide on how to on youtube/google?".... ^^

EDIT : Smart Switch is THE Samsung backup solution.
not from the US. phone is unlocked for every provider i want.
yeah, im a total noob when it comes to firmware changes.

i said i tried the factory reset, not the cache wipe. ill try that when ill get back home.
ive done factory reset before on my old androids, thats how i know how to do it, never did a cache wipe before. thats why i asked.

u act like im some paid actor to talk trash on android.
no need to look for "cracks" in my messages to seek for help. i aint lying to yall. i just look for help here. reddit guys guided me to this community.
thats about it.
 
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Arobase40

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Perhaps you didn't read my response correctly. It would be good to do that before calling someone a liar or noob. Did you even SEE this part?
Perhaps you didn't understand I was not talking about you ?!?!?! ^^
I didn't have a problem with smart switch - when I used it. It did not occur to me to pull out the S8 when I started this and Samsung tech service TOLD ME to use the back up to external card when I contacted them.

Not sure why you decided to be aggressive about it all.

Again, I was not aggressive about you, except when you responded this :

"Not according to Samsung on the phone." when I said this :

"EDIT : Smart Switch is THE Samsung backup solution."

And I was not really aggressive, just disturbed as you were talking about SmartSwitch with your S8 as if this tool doesn't exist on the A52(s) phone...

But must of all you missed the destination of my post. ^^
 

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    There is no link between the bootloader and any version of OneUI ! ^^

    I upgraded from Android 11 to Android 12 with OneUI 4.0, then downgraded to Android 11 with OneUI 3.1 and once again upgraded to Android 12 with OneUI 4.0 with no problem at any level ! ^^

    Didn't find any incompatibility with any apps exception with Magisk v23, but I don't use this phone very much as it is a secondary phone and my main phone is a Galaxy Note 9... ;)
    I stand corrected, the bootloader is still at version one on newest firmware with A52s and I am sorry for this misstatement. I still stand by my advice to OP about rather fixing the problems by factory reset and one by one installation of apps and games.

    Since no one I know or have talked to has had any problems with Android12 on the A52s, rather on the contrary the phone has become better, I think that the OPs problem has nothing to do with the new firmware.
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    Why don't you do a factory reset as suggested by @koimr ???

    I don't think all other A52 5G owners have the same problems than you...
    Because i already done it, and its still messed up.

    As far as reddit goes, im not the only one with a52s that has these problems.

    This phone is brand new(2 months) and it worked like a charm untill this update..

    I just hoped for a way to go back to 3.1
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    Not according to Samsung on the phone. :D
    How can you say that ??? Might be a kinda blind guy as it is written everywhere ! ;)
    It is distributed both from the Galaxy Store and from the Google Store as part of Samsung as many other tools from Samsung. Think to update it from time to time...
    Plus it was less than useful in my case where I had NOT used it right at the start, so by the time I thought of the S8 I'd already had the impact of the other methods.

    Luckily Super Backup and Swift Backup do a good job of backing up the essentials - I don't mind losing games scores but losing Contacts, SMS & Calls would have been a terrible thing.

    With SmartSwitch you don't lose anything and mostly not Contacts, SMS, Calls and your settings, including the storage and so the backup could be very big if you have many audio and videos files... But you can exclude them from the list if you wish. I own 3 1 TB SDCards on my different phones and tablet (2 Galaxy Note9 with 256/512 GB storage and a Galaxy Tab S6 with 256 GB and now this A528B).
    You can also do your backup on Samsung Cloud or on your PC with PC SmartSwtich...
    Actually you lose a few things, but I think it's at purpose, even though I can't understand or at least I can't accept it is that SmartSwitch don't backup your themes and your back grounds anymore and also your Samsung password... ^^
    It did it before but nomore now... At least with my A528B...
    Also, I figured if he didn't know Odin etc. he'd ask. I hadn't read all the thread, just responded to his OP.
    I used to help people for over 35 years on different medium, including at the time of Usenet and in Google groups and I know or I can guess when somebody don't or when he is lying lying because he won't admit he is a rookie or a totally noob. It's just a pity as he won't learn much and it's better to put the blame on the manufacturer or on someone else... ^^
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    I don't know if the bootloader got updated with the update on the A52s. If that's the case then you're stuck with OneUI 4. If the bootloader wasn't updated then you could go back to OneUI 3.1 safely with Odin.
    With a new major Android version, there is a new bootloader. A11 to A12 is a major update, so no going back. As to the OPs problem, you will soon find out what app, game or setting is causing your problem if you do your detective work. Factory reset and installation of apps and games one at a time. Some apps and games are not compatible with A12 yet.
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    I've recently been bouncing from UI 4 to UI 3.1 numerous times, trying to diagnose and fix an issue with my S20+ 5G - even used firmware from 2 different countries. (XSA & XSG)

    Used Odin3 v13.14.4 which I think is the latest on Sammobile.

    Note: BACKUP - I had a problem on one flash using HOME_CSC back to 3.1 where it bootlooped - I should have tried simply turn off then start from scratch to see if it cleared but instead I did a factory reset. So be prepared for needing a reset.

    Note: Samsung and other backups do not backup your data - I used Super Backup to save out my Contacts, SMS's and Calls. Also used the Backup to External option - faster than to online account.

    Another possibility I tried at the end that I should have done at the start when I had everything - Smart Switch to my S8 first, then I could have used SS to get everything back.
    but using odin is safe for a future updates? it wont block me from future updates like rooting does?
    contacts are stored in the sim card so that not a problem. call logs doesnt mind me to lose such as SMS.
    pictures\videos - i can move to my laptop and then move it back to my phone.
    apps - ill just download them again. not a big of a deal.

    sorry for the dumb questions im just a rookie when it come to all of these firmware changes via 3rd party kind of things.

    Another point - it's not uncommon for a new firmware to use battery in what seems excessive amounts for the 1st day or so. I did see a technical explanation years back but I can't recall what it was.

    It's a good idea to let it settle in a bit before trying corrections.
    its been a week already tbh.
    ill give u a walk through:
    120hz always on, AOD, WIFI+DATA always on. all of these since day 1.

    - pre update - my battery dropped 7%-10% per hour of reddit\browsing\youtube\multitasking for my work.
    - post update - 25% per hour on these very same tasks.

    - pre update - not a single drop of % over night.
    - post update - 3-5% drop over night.

    - pre update - only charged it once a day - over night. phone lasted me for a complete day. no matter what i did, or how i pushed this phone to the edge, the battery didnt die at all. lowest i got is to 17%.
    - post update - on the very same useage as before - charge it twice a day.

    - pre update - no lags, 120hz felt like 120hz, phone was buttery smooth
    - post update - lags while scrolling\swiping, 120hz feels like 90hz sometimes. feels like refresh drops, like system is lagging

    I was also thinking about the use of PC Odin and flashing a firmware but 2 things came into my mind :

    1) We don't know if his phone is a branded one or from USA...
    2) I guess @Justaquestion2 might be a totally noob guy, so need to propose a tricky procedure to him. lol

    He said to me he already tried to do a hard reset and a wipe cache and then he asked to @dexlemaffo "Ill try that. Is it a common thing which i can find a guide on how to on youtube/google?".... ^^

    EDIT : Smart Switch is THE Samsung backup solution.
    not from the US. phone is unlocked for every provider i want.
    yeah, im a total noob when it comes to firmware changes.

    i said i tried the factory reset, not the cache wipe. ill try that when ill get back home.
    ive done factory reset before on my old androids, thats how i know how to do it, never did a cache wipe before. thats why i asked.

    u act like im some paid actor to talk trash on android.
    no need to look for "cracks" in my messages to seek for help. i aint lying to yall. i just look for help here. reddit guys guided me to this community.
    thats about it.