Is there a way to disable updates without root? [ANSWERED]

Karnax_

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Well on my first note mine was set to manual and it pushed the update through regardless a few hours after the notification arrived. IMO anybody able to root has nothing to lose by rooting if they're intending to keep it at this point.
 
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teegunn

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Package disabler. Disable System update SDM's. Don't touch anything to do with Knox though.

Disable these:
Security policy updates
Software update
System update 1
System update 2

I've had those frozen on both my original Note 7 and my replacement Note 7 and get no OTA's at all. Don't think they can push them to you with these disabled.
 

flanky79

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Just bought the Package Disable Pro+ Premium.
Strange.
Have disabled the "Security Policy updates" and "Software update", BUT my replaced Note7 does not have the 2 System Updates. processes.
Anyone knows what should I do?

Also I have the GearVR, and have not connected it to my handset after they push down the patch to disable the use with Note7.
Anyone knows which process to disable too, so that I can continue using the GearVR?

Pls help... Thanks!
 

teegunn

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Just bought the Package Disable Pro+ Premium.
Strange.
Have disabled the "Security Policy updates" and "Software update", BUT my replaced Note7 does not have the 2 System Updates. processes.
Anyone knows what should I do?

Also I have the GearVR, and have not connected it to my handset after they push down the patch to disable the use with Note7.
Anyone knows which process to disable too, so that I can continue using the GearVR?

Pls help... Thanks!
I think you have to edit the build-prop (which means you need to be rooted) to get the Gear VR to work.

As far as the 2 system sdm updates - they are on both my Note 7's, but then I haven't ever taken an OTA or any update as I disabled all of that first thing I got the phones (one was my OG N7, the other the replacement N7). So I can't help you if you have already taken an update, but those system SDMs should be there unless they removed them in an update somehow, which I doubt.
 

flanky79

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I think you have to edit the build-prop (which means you need to be rooted) to get the Gear VR to work.

As far as the 2 system sdm updates - they are on both my Note 7's, but then I haven't ever taken an OTA or any update as I disabled all of that first thing I got the phones (one was my OG N7, the other the replacement N7). So I can't help you if you have already taken an update, but those system SDMs should be there unless they removed them in an update somehow, which I doubt.
Ya, after I received the replacement on 16/9/16 (Singapore), I received an OTA update within the next couple of days that give the green battery.
That is the only update I received.
If it helps, my version is 6.0.1,
Baseband: N960FXXU2BPI5
Build number: MMB29K.N930FXXU2BPI9
So strange... :(

Does that mean the only choice I have is to root the phone? :(
(I haven't rooted before)
What is the best "stock" rooted package now?
I'm fine with the default Samsung apps generally, and does not need to have much default functions disabled.
 

teegunn

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Ya, after I received the replacement on 16/9/16 (Singapore), I received an OTA update within the next couple of days that give the green battery.
That is the only update I received.
If it helps, my version is 6.0.1,
Baseband: N960FXXU2BPI5
Build number: MMB29K.N930FXXU2BPI9
So strange... :(

Does that mean the only choice I have is to root the phone? :(
(I haven't rooted before)
What is the best "stock" rooted package now?
I'm fine with the default Samsung apps generally, and does not need to have much default functions disabled.
This is the first Android phone I have not rooted. Ever. So honestly, I cannot guide you on the root process, as I never did it on either of my Note 7's. I was eventually going to root, but then the recalls hit and I figured there was no point since I will be giving it up soon. But if you took the green battery update, my understanding is that you cannot root and cannot go back to the previous firmware. I do not know if the update you took got rid of the two system update SDM's, someone else will have to help you with that. I would bet that you can still prevent further OTA's with package disabler pro - however, I do not know that for sure. Hopefully others will see this thread and these posts and chime in with info that clears this up for you.
 

LightningJay

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I rooted my replacement note 7 (with green battery update) a few days ago with no problem in anticipation of a crippling update pushed by Samsung: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development/recovery-official-twrp-galaxy-note-7-t3446047. But by doing so you trigger knox and lose access to secure folder and shealth. I solved the shealth problem by disabling encryption on my device with Hydra Kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development/kernel-hydrakernel-v1-1-t3452433 while keeping stock ROM. I am considering changing to HydraRom http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development/rom-hydra-rom-v1-0-t3447611 just in case.

Hope this helped! :)
 
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Cr4z33

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Considering the fact that the phone automatically runs an update at its first boot is there a way to easily shield the device from the mobile network (so that it won't update)? :D
 

shellie03

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I rooted my replacement note 7 (with green battery update) a few days ago with no problem in anticipation of a crippling update pushed by Samsung: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development/recovery-official-twrp-galaxy-note-7-t3446047. But by doing so you trigger knox and lose access to secure folder and shealth. I solved the shealth problem by disabling encryption on my device with Hydra Kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development/kernel-hydrakernel-v1-1-t3452433 while keeping stock ROM. I am considering changing to HydraRom http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development/rom-hydra-rom-v1-0-t3447611 just in case.

Hope this helped! :)
What is your replacement baseband Version that you rooted? By any chance was it PI4?
 
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teegunn

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OK then it needs a mobile data subscription?

I thought OTAs would be running 'for free' if they are from the same carrier you are connected to?

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S7 edge with stock Samsung Marshmallow firmware
My replacement N7 DL'd the update first thing. I did remove the sim and also shut off WIFI, but it had already DL'd the update. But I did not let it install the update. I rebooted and skipped activating the phone. I didn't do any of the first boot setup stuff - skipped all of that, then went to the play store, logged in with my gmail and first thing I installed as package disabler pro. I immediately disabled all the System updates (4 packages). After that I quit getting the notice to install the already DL'd update. Once you disable the System update SDM's, you can't even get into the phone update OTA selection in settings, it kicks you right out. So even though it had DL'd the update, I was able to prevent it from installing.

I do think the phone is trying to look for an update constantly now though. When I look at my GSM battery monitor, system updates is right near the top of what android system is using all the time. I still have excellent battery life, but I think disabling OTA system updates will make the phone constantly try to look for updates that it simply can't run because the SDM's are disabled. I can live with that as gimping the phone with a crappy OTA that limits the battery or might add other possible things I didn't want was the main goal. Phone runs great and battery life is great. That's all I need.
 
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