It looks like HTC never learned about the biggest weakness of all its phones....

[wangxiaohu]

2,150mAh battery.....come on....

 

[neo4uo]

Although you make a valid point. Have you seen the battery life of the Nexus 5x on 6.0? It has a 2700mah battery and one guy testing it said that after a full day of use he had 76% phone batty left. Now I know this isn't the same phone, but we need to hold out and see what M is going to do for battery life. Also supposedly with quick charge 3.0 the phone will by 0-90% charged in 15 minutes. I know that Android hasn't had the best track record for battery life, but maybe it will all change with M!

 

[Giblet-dono]

Although you make a valid point. Have you seen the battery life of the Nexus 5x on 6.0? It has a 2700mah battery and one guy testing it said that after a full day of use he had 76% phone batty left. Now I know this isn't the same phone, but we need to hold out and see what M is going to do for battery life. Also supposedly with quick charge 3.0 the phone will by 0-90% charged in 15 minutes. I know that Android hasn't had the best track record for battery life, but maybe it will all change with M!

just lik it all changed in lollipop, oh and in kitkat, what about jellybean? and icecream sandwich...
Google has been shouting a LOT about batterylife for YEARS
But even they are just waiting, looking for that new innovation in batteries and/or SOCs

 

[wangxiaohu]

Although you make a valid point. Have you seen the battery life of the Nexus 5x on 6.0? It has a 2700mah battery and one guy testing it said that after a full day of use he had 76% phone batty left. Now I know this isn't the same phone, but we need to hold out and see what M is going to do for battery life. Also supposedly with quick charge 3.0 the phone will by 0-90% charged in 15 minutes. I know that Android hasn't had the best track record for battery life, but maybe it will all change with M!

I compare from Hardware device to device, not from Android version to version. If M gives extra battery life to A9, it might give even longer batt life to some other phone.

 

[Foukos]

On each new version they get something right but mess with things that were working.
If they moved the fingerprint sensor in the power button like sony did and placed boomsound speakers bam!!! I would buy the phone instantly.

 

[combat goofwing]

Modaco Paul Obrien just tweeted "Actual numbers to follow in my review, but One A9 battery life from a 2150mAh battery is nothing short of miraculous for my usage."

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[headcreepz]

Really hope HTC gets it right...This phone could be my next.....Have to wait and see.

 

[Shark87]

Actually its more like they moved back on battery size. The M8 and M9 both had fairly large batteries (between 2600-2800mAh if I'm not mistaken).

 

[gregag]

So hard to understand what they're thinking. I can't see in which direction they're going.
Hope next phone will be something serious!

 

[mlodykaras]

HTC sometimes resemble 14 year old teenagers going from one extremum to the other. I really don't understand what they did here. They put 2150mha battery in a phone sized exactly the same as M9. My oh my. Why htc? The only reason I could think of is that they wanted to advertise quick charging and put 80% in 15mins instead of 60% because it will look better!
They finally released a decent midrange device for a decent prize but once again they f... up!
The funniest thing is that they always put so much emphasis on the camera (since htc one x) and they were always mediocre at best because the software controlling the image sensor was garbage.
I just hope some sane people will do some good with M10. I really wanna try another HTC.

 

[Pucciano]

It can be that the 2200 mA are enough for the stock OS without any 3th Party Apps.
For example the iPhone 6: If I have restore the device as a new one without download any Apps or connected Mail Services the device run for a week. But if I install WhatsApp, Facebook, an IMAP or Exchange Server the battery is go dead after 7 - 8h.

Not the device is the big issue here, its the software and the user. Nobody test his device with 3th Party Apps. A real field test is that what the manufacturer need.
I think the A9 has a great battery runtime - but only out of the box.

 

[gavinfabl]

I have the Nexus 5X, uses 30% in a day. Amazing.

 

[dbornack]

It can be that the 2200 mA are enough for the stock OS without any 3th Party Apps.
For example the iPhone 6: If I have restore the device as a new one without download any Apps or connected Mail Services the device run for a week. But if I install WhatsApp, Facebook, an IMAP or Exchange Server the battery is go dead after 7 - 8h.

Not the device is the big issue here, its the software and the user. Nobody test his device with 3th Party Apps. A real field test is that what the manufacturer need.
I think the A9 has a great battery runtime - but only out of the box.

This is complete BS. You know damn well phone companies need to spec out phones for the real world. Now, their claims for a certain number of hours on a single charge, of course are when tested with stock software and nothing else. But they know damn well that in the real world, they need at least 50% more juice.

2100 mAh.... disgusting. How is any company releasing a phone without at least 2800 is beyond me. I have a Droid Turbo at 3900, and it's still as slim and sexy as any phone out there.

 

[fix-this!]

This is complete BS. You know damn well phone companies need to spec out phones for the real world. Now, their claims for a certain number of hours on a single charge, of course are when tested with stock software and nothing else. But they know damn well that in the real world, they need at least 50% more juice.

2100 mAh.... disgusting. How is any company releasing a phone without at least 2800 is beyond me. I have a Droid Turbo at 3900, and it's still as slim and sexy as any phone out there.

ive owned every iteration of every android phone out there and lag and bad battery life were present. doesn't matter how big the cpu or how large the battery was.

 

[Pucciano]

This is complete BS. You know damn well phone companies need to spec out phones for the real world. Now, their claims for a certain number of hours on a single charge, of course are when tested with stock software and nothing else. But they know damn well that in the real world, they need at least 50% more juice.

Hey dbornack,
this is wrong. Apple only tests with stock ROM without any Apps.

Testing conducted by Apple in August 2015 using preproduction iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus units and software, on both GSM and CDMA carrier networks. All settings were default except: Wi-Fi was associated with a network; the Wi-Fi feature Ask to Join Networks was turned off. Hey Siri was not enabled.

You can this read here: http://www.apple.com/iphone/battery.html

If i have more threads running on a device it is normal that the battery is draining quickly then with less. You can try it by yourself: restore the device as a new one and compare it with a lot of Apps installed. You will feel the difference :good:

 

[Cashreedhar]

This is complete BS. You know damn well phone companies need to spec out phones for the real world. Now, their claims for a certain number of hours on a single charge, of course are when tested with stock software and nothing else. But they know damn well that in the real world, they need at least 50% more juice.

2100 mAh.... disgusting. How is any company releasing a phone without at least 2800 is beyond me. I have a Droid Turbo at 3900, and it's still as slim and sexy as any phone out there.

You are right that "phone companies need to spec out phones for the real world". At the same time, it is early to say anything about HTC's 2100 mAh approach. Because, show me a phone company (Android) that has the specs in the real world (not on papers) to have the best battery/performance/display. eg. -we know when HTC released HTC One X, it was blazing fast and now its not! Same with the other series/brands. Now the question is what is going wrong - The newly released IPhone 6s plus lags, with top specs Samsung Edge plus lags (Sammies might be afraid to talk on this), almost all of them, because everyone is in the spec race. At one point Apple got it right and they made the balanced processor which consumes less RAM and battery. Now we need to look for such a balanced device, which doesn't boast with SOC SD820, QHD display for which 3,000 MaH/3GB RAM is not sufficient. We need a device which has amazing screen (QHD - no need for human eyes in 5 inch screen), great design, great performance, awesome camera and good memory. I think SD617 is best at handling these tasks quietly, at least from what I am hearing from testers.

When we get the phone on our hands, we will really know the truth. If HTC made that balanced device, it's a new revolution in the android industry. It seems HTC trusts its efforts and that is the reason they are offering free return after a month use (on the phone we bought on special price of $399). And we really don't have a reason to complain at this point of time, as we have all opportunity to test it and change the mind later too.

I welcome this new revolution of HTC, hopefully the the phone turns out to be the best! and the marketing strategy to repair the damages made in the past is very good too. It needs guts to take challenge in such a competitive market, and I am really happy to see HTC doing it again.

The price point - I think it is going to be $699 off contract after the discount ends. That sounds reasonable because of its after sale service, which includes following:
1. Replacing damaged device for free
2. Free switch from one service provider to other one
3. +15 days Android update
4. Warranty even after unlocking bootloader (not sure if it is only for unlocked devices)

Please don't compare this with Oppo, huawei, Micromax and other phones.. This phone has premium hardwares inside and after sale service is awesome. I need not worry much on dropping my phone every time I hold in my hand. I have Micromax device with top specs and processor lagging every time my friend used it.

PS - I don't care on the slogan of people - HTC copied Apple. Being a customer I am not affected. After signing 10 year no sue agreement Apple stole HTC's design (immediately after signing) and today if HTC's phone looks like Apple it's not their problem. Anyway both can't sue each other and not waste millions of $. IPhone 6 design is most liked design (by maximum phone users in the world - sales history says that) and today if HTC has the same design, I have no reason to hate.
- Sent from HTC One M8 Harman kardon

 

[pete2bec2]

HTC sometimes resemble 14 year old teenagers going from one extremum to the other. I really don't understand what they did here. They put 2150mha battery in a phone sized exactly the same as M9. My oh my. Why htc? The only reason I could think of is that they wanted to advertise quick charging and put 80% in 15mins instead of 60% because it will look better!
They finally released a decent midrange device for a decent prize but once again they f... up!
The funniest thing is that they always put so much emphasis on the camera (since htc one x) and they were always mediocre at best because the software controlling the image sensor was garbage.
I just hope some sane people will do some good with M10. I really wanna try another HTC.

My old m7 does pretty well with a 2350 mA battery, and little optimization. I'm betting it will be much better than that.

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

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On each new version they get something right but mess with things that were working.
If they moved the fingerprint sensor in the power button like sony did and placed boomsound speakers bam!!! I would buy the phone instantly.

I agree. I'm much more upset about the speakers than the battery. And there's a lot to like. I thought about the 5x but this could be much better. I hope I'm right.

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[jmkhenka]

M8 had 2700mah ad M9 2850 or something. And they last me a good time. The N5 had 2300 and some had issues but most not.

2100 is fine with the display and cpu combo. And some reports bad life from even the 6p with 3500 and the moto style where no battery life campion with even 3500.

 

[AlfaGTV]

You are right that "phone companies need to spec out phones for the real world". At the same time, it is early to say anything about HTC's 2100 mAh approach. Because, show me a phone company (Android) that has the specs in the real world (not on papers) to have the best battery/performance/display. eg. -we know when HTC released HTC One X, it was blazing fast and now its not! Same with the other series/brands. Now the question is what is going wrong - The newly released IPhone 6s plus lags, with top specs Samsung Edge plus lags (Sammies might be afraid to talk on this), almost all of them, because everyone is in the spec race. At one point Apple got it right and they made the balanced processor which consumes less RAM and battery. Now we need to look for such a balanced device, which doesn't boast with SOC SD820, QHD display for which 3,000 MaH/3GB RAM is not sufficient. We need a device which has amazing screen (QHD - no need for human eyes in 5 inch screen), great design, great performance, awesome camera and good memory. I think SD617 is best at handling these tasks quietly, at least from what I am hearing from testers.

When we get the phone on our hands, we will really know the truth. If HTC made that balanced device, it's a new revolution in the android industry. It seems HTC trusts its efforts and that is the reason they are offering free return after a month use (on the phone we bought on special price of $399). And we really don't have a reason to complain at this point of time, as we have all opportunity to test it and change the mind later too.

I welcome this new revolution of HTC, hopefully the the phone turns out to be the best! and the marketing strategy to repair the damages made in the past is very good too. It needs guts to take challenge in such a competitive market, and I am really happy to see HTC doing it again.

The price point - I think it is going to be $699 off contract after the discount ends. That sounds reasonable because of its after sale service, which includes following:
1. Replacing damaged device for free
2. Free switch from one service provider to other one
3. +15 days Android update
4. Warranty even after unlocking bootloader (not sure if it is only for unlocked devices)

Please don't compare this with Oppo, huawei, Micromax and other phones.. This phone has premium hardwares inside and after sale service is awesome. I need not worry much on dropping my phone every time I hold in my hand. I have Micromax device with top specs and processor lagging every time my friend used it.

PS - I don't care on the slogan of people - HTC copied Apple. Being a customer I am not affected. After signing 10 year no sue agreement Apple stole HTC's design (immediately after signing) and today if HTC's phone looks like Apple it's not their problem. Anyway both can't sue each other and not waste millions of $. IPhone 6 design is most liked design (by maximum phone users in the world - sales history says that) and today if HTC has the same design, I have no reason to hate.
- Sent from HTC One M8 Harman kardon

Finally someone who sums it up perfectly. I'm looking forward to buy this phone and to be honest I really don't care about the battery size. I don't think it would be worse than my nexus 5 and btw I don't understand the problems some people had with the nexus. It all depends on how you use a phone.

The only thing I don't understand is htc's price politics. Here in Germany it's gonna cost 580€, but in the US it's only at 399$ PLUS here we only get 16GB internal storage not 32 and 2GB RAM and not 3.

 

[fix-this!]

if iphone 6s users are fine with sub 2000mah then im sure the a9 will do fine to get through most of the day.

---------- Post added at 10:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:23 AM ----------

I have the Nexus 5X, uses 30% in a day. Amazing.

you must be in the minority because most are saying the battery life is terrible.