It's almost my time to upgrade

the5ifty

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Okay so here is my idea I am due for an upgrade february first so I was thinking maybe I would get the evo just to see what it's like an see you all the hype is about... and if it doesn't live up to my expectations I will just do the sprint 30 day trading thing and end up with an evo shift. I will be able to side by side both devices since my wife just got the shift on the seventh.

good idea?

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yokken

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my pre was ready to go and i got the evo because it's what was out at the time. got sick of the virtual keyboard, hated it on my iphone and i think i'll always hate virtual keyboards.

the shift is faster with a great keyboard and much better battery life. and $50 cheaper. that's enough for me.
 

the5ifty

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I will probably end up coming back to the shift but I just want to try out a new you gonna have it for a little while to see if it will suit my needs cuz I don't really need the hard keyboard. and also I have rom add so I wanna try out the 50,000,000,000 there are ready for the evo...

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indiscriminant

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I am looking to upgrade soon from my Hero and am contemplating the same thing, EVO OG or the Shift. I have seen a few comments about the shift being faster, is that just a placebo because it is new? I thought the OG EVO had a faster clock sped than the new shift (why it gets better battery life).
 

Compusmurf

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I have both an Evo and Shift. Stock, the Shift in benchmarks, even with being an 800Mhz cpu, benches quite a bit faster across the board.

Cam seems better on the Shift, esp. anyplace indoors where you need flash. Tho the megapixel rating is only 5.1. More doesn't always mean better.

Evo does have a significantly bigger screen which is good, esp for me. I don't HAVE to wear my reading glasses. Evo has the front cam and a kickstand, and of course, the worthless HDMI port. I've never used the front cam, not once. I really don't WANT to see the folks I chat with. LOL

The reason I added the shift to "probably" replace the evo is the keyboard. I type A LOT. Messages, notes, IM's, data from conf calls, etc and it does get extremely annoying to do it with only a soft keyboard.

Sense, for the folks that like it, has landscape capability on the Shift, not so on the Evo.

Phone wise, both are superb. No odd bluetooth dropouts, I was on the phone for exactly 4 hours and 52 minutes today at work, no issues. Clarity is awesome.

Battery life so far, has been better on the shift than evo. Both seem to get the same amt of signal on both 3g and 4G in my house. Data speed tests with 3g, 4g and wifi are very close to identical. GPS seems about the same, nothing odd there.

Right now, the Evo is nand unlockable and fully rootable, the Shift probably will be and is expected, but this may matter to some folks.

The screen on the evo is flush and has been known to "peel" in the corners. Shift is recessed about 1mm, which will probably eliminate the peeling effect that bothers some folks.

The usb/charge port on the evo is on the bottom, which make it easier to hold and use while charging/syncing, but probably makes it more prone to snapping the pins. The shift is on the side, probably stop the damage occurring, but does make it more awkward to hold/use while charging.

Back cover on the evo was quite easy to remove/swap batteries, whereas the shift, attaches really well to where you think you're going to break the clips.

As you see, both have their pro's and cons. All depends on what you're looking for in a smartphone.

In the end, it'll probably be the keyboard over the screensize that will make my decision.
 

indiscriminant

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I currently have a HTC Hero Nand rooted, with custom Sense rom and kernal. When you use roms and kernals on your Evo how does it do? Obviously nothing has been made yet for the Shift for comparison yet though. Just curious about your experiences.
 

the5ifty

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I am looking to upgrade soon from my Hero and am contemplating the same thing, EVO OG or the Shift. I have seen a few comments about the shift being faster, is that just a placebo because it is new? I thought the OG EVO had a faster clock sped than the new shift (why it gets better battery life).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxI8vG6wT8g&feature=youtube_gdata_player somewhere in the middle of that video is a quadrant test with both of the phones their stock conditions. With rooting in overclocking the shift just goes even farther ahead. I've heard of G2. (which is basically the same phone is the shift) overclocked 2 1800 and a quadrant score of over 3000, so no question the shift is and will be faster. it's just a question of whether or not there will be as much of a development following IMO.



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indiscriminant

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxI8vG6wT8g&feature=youtube_gdata_player somewhere in the middle of that video is a quadrant test with both of the phones their stock conditions. With rooting in overclocking the shift just goes even farther ahead. I've heard of G2. (which is basically the same phone is the shift) overclocked 2 1800 and a quadrant score of over 3000, so no question the shift is and will be faster. it's just a question of whether or not there will be as much of a development following IMO.



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That is promising, just gotta figure out if I am going to miss not having the front camera that I have wanted for using Skype with clients for work when needed. Also Screen size.

Rom community is important to me as the Hero has a very strong development and theme community, no way to know if that will come to the shift yet though.
 

the5ifty

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That is promising, just gotta figure out if I am going to miss not having the front camera that I have wanted for using Skype with clients for work when needed. Also Screen size.

Rom community is important to me as the Hero has a very strong development and theme community, no way to know if that will come to the shift yet though.
As if now at least, you cannot video chat skype. And hey what's up with all of us being/formerly being hero owners?



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I dunno what to say. When I went in to the sprint store to get a case for the shift, I saw they had the extended battery (unknown rating) for the regular evo. That takes care of a major problem with the old evo. Depends on what's important to you. I've had all three 4g phones. The big screen is definitely a plus for bad eyesight and watching movies. If I had to get another phone, the original evo with the extended battery is tempting. The epic was slightly quicker with games since it had a gpu and the evo was plowing through it with just a single cpu. I'm so disgruntled with samsung, I would probably go for the more screen real estate. Good luck finding a case for it with the fat battery. It certainly makes the evo have some junk in the trunk!

Haa haa! My evo has a ghetto booty! LMAO
 

indiscriminant

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With the Hero being 18mos old I think a lot of people are coming up on their 1 year and looking for their next phone. Similar to how a lot of initial EVO adopters were early Hero adopters, we are the crowd who got the Hero 6 months late.

The Skype video chat just went live last week on Iphone4 so I assume it will be not too long for it to be on Android, that is what happened with Skype Voice chat as well. (Although Verizon had that by itself the apk from Verizon was able to be run on other phones, it is what I use on my Hero now)

From a battery perspective, I thought the Hero battery was compatible with the Evo, and along with ROM/Kernal tweaks the Evo battery wasn't horrible. Add in a second battery and you should be pretty good.

Now it would be even better with the shift, just not sure if I want to wait the 2 months for the modding community to pick it up in full stride if it ever does.

I need to get both in my hand to compare them soon and play with them. I really want 2.2 Sense which wasn't able to be achieved on the Hero. Unlike others I really like Sense for it's integration and I don't feel it slows the system down. Nfinites Roms on the Hero with sense worked great with a Zen Kernal.