It's just too soon or this device isn't getting attention from devs?

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Ticiano

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I've owned various Android devices since my first Cupcake phone. Every time I get a new device, one of the first things I do is to come here to see how the development is going. I've never got a new phone that had the forums soo empty. I don't know if it's just too soon or if this particular phone will never become a model loved by our friends that use to give us the best custom experience in this forums. What do you think?
 
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Daenjel

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I've owned various Android devices since my first Cupcake phone. Every time I get a new device, one of the first things I do is to come here to see how the development is going. I've never got a new phone that had the forums soo empty. I don't know if it's just too soon or if this particular phone will never become a model loved by our friends that use to give us the best custom experience in this forums. What do you think?

Same opinion, even from the official developers, this device is stuck on MIUI 10.2 stable both china and global since it came out, MIUI 10.4 stable its already out for some devices like the Mi 6 and we're on MIUI 10.5 over the beta...
 

Ticiano

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Huh, even today we had another update on the PE rom?

That ROM is really promising, but taking my experience with another devices, at this time we'd be here with plenty of ROMs, Kernels and mods. I think the device will never be a good phone for customization just because, for some reason, it couldn't be attractive enough for the developers. Maybe it's this boring waiting time to unlock the bootloader... I don't know...
 

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[...]I've never got a new phone that had the forums soo empty. [...]

My thoughts exactly. Checking the Forums what I should flash, during the unlock waiting time (also an unusually thing), I got some doubt If I should even bother with this device.
But after 2 weeks of using it with Revolution OS I am pretty happy with the experience. Even though this heavy MIUI menu customizations need some time to sink in.

I hope they will keep up the support and that xiaomi gets in the game finally and releases some fixes.

I have got the impression many snapdragon 855 devices are struggling with custom rom and dev support. I hope Android Q gets native in-display fingerprint support which could help with many custom rom problems on this newer devices.
 
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I've owned various Android devices since my first Cupcake phone. Every time I get a new device, one of the first things I do is to come here to see how the development is going. I've never got a new phone that had the forums soo empty. I don't know if it's just too soon or if this particular phone will never become a model loved by our friends that use to give us the best custom experience in this forums. What do you think?


Well, if you are looking for a custom ROM, there are are few such as PE.
BUT: I personally have used custom ROMs on every device I have owned, EXCEPT for my Mi9!
REASON: Custom ROMs will break useful functions of the device such as the AI-button and Fingerprint.
I love the MIUI ROM the way it is, it has many functions that are missing in vanilla Android.
For those who say, it is too complicated: You are either too lazy or don't want to learn new stuff - or both.


ROOT:


And I absolutely refuse to use a device that I can't root in order to De-Bloat and Firewall it, etc...

So here my instructions for successfully root. Please DON'T ask about other ROMs or other ways to root!
I have failed with many other intructions and I found what works perfectly for me, as it should for you as well.


[FONT=&quot]HOW TO ROOT MI9 SUCCESSFULLY[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]ATTENTION: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If your device comes new out of the box, the bootloader needs to be unlocked.
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Use this tool: https://en.miui.com/unlock/download_en.html
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]You do need to connect your Mi9 to your MI account and you need to wait for the Flash Tool to work after the waiting period.
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]But you must first initiate the wait count by using the flash tool.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]If flashing bricked device with Mi-FlashTool, the Bootloader becomes locked again and needs to be unlocked.
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If your the waiting period is over, this goes instantly.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Install the CORRECT TWRP via “fastboot flash recovery twrp-new.img” then install the latest Stable GLOBAL ROM from here:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]http://en.miui.com/download-361.html[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Without installing anything else, set-up the system!
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Do NOT USE the option to restore your apps (since another wipe is necessary after rooting).
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]There is also no need to login to Play-Store or MI-Sync.
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I don’t use Mi-Sync nor any other MI-Apps at all!!![/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Enable Developer Options, then USB-Debugging and Unknown-Sources.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Check unlock status of MI Account in Dev-Options, add account.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Without installing anything else, set-up the system, YES – AGAIN since BL was locked.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Install Mi9 specific TWRP 3.2.3 from Mauronofrio from here.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][RECOVERY][3.3.1-35][cepheus]Unofficial TWRP for Xiaomi Mi 9 (Stable) or newer:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/development/recovery-unofficial-twrp-xiaomi-mi-9-t3905825[/FONT]

After flashing TWRP, press volume up and power together and hold both until the phone reboots, let go of power after it vibrates but keep holding Vol up until it boots again to TWRP. That way it'll stick.

[FONT=&quot]Install latest MAGISK from here: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Update Magisk in Magisk Manager if necessary and Configure in Settings SU to always allow if you don’t like to have the danger of missing a SU-Request.
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]You might keep the notifications on for a while to see that it works.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Install Busybox and verify that it stays installed, if not change settings.
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Busybox from Jared Rummler [/FONT]JRummy Apps [FONT=&quot]should stick if installed into /system/xbin/ or try another location.
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I had trouble having the version from [/FONT]Stephen (Stericson) [FONT=&quot]stick.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]To check if rooting was successfully, I suggest Advanced Root Checker:
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anu.developers3k.rootchecker&hl=de [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]If you want to block Ads, install ADAWAY manually since it is not in the Store. [/FONT]


AND PLAESE REMEMBER:
I will be glad to help with my method!
DO NOT ASK ABOUT OTHER METHODS!
Why: I spent much time to make this work while other methods terribly failed.


Thanks


Robert




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Potato997

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But.. we have PE, CrDroid, Viper, Lineage already lol
Once we get build vendor I'm sure even more build bots will come, I wonder where you see the problems related to this device.
 
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omgomg

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Just wait lol. There arn't many devices (if any) with snapdragon 855 and bug free custom ROMs yet.

Exactly this. Being on the technology's bleeding edge means not many users will have it already. To be honest, I'm more than happy with what we currently have, a fully working stable TWRP, Miui is actually quite good, and I had a lot of fear it wouldn't be, as this is my first Xiaomi device, Floko, PixelExperience, LineageOS, crdroid, viperOS and all this for a very recent SoC used in few devices.
Honestly, I'm not concerned at all.
Custom kernels? Who needs them when you have LTK on magisk.
 

badaas

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Exactly this. Being on the technology's bleeding edge means not many users will have it already. To be honest, I'm more than happy with what we currently have, a fully working stable TWRP, Miui is actually quite good, and I had a lot of fear it wouldn't be, as this is my first Xiaomi device, Floko, PixelExperience, LineageOS, crdroid, viperOS and all this for a very recent SoC used in few devices.
Honestly, I'm not concerned at all.
Custom kernels? Who needs them when you have LTK on magisk.
Lkt you mean, is just a root mod.
Do you have any reports from mi9 use?

Thanks
 
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Daenjel

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But.. we have PE, CrDroid, Viper, Lineage already lol
Once we get build vendor I'm sure even more build bots will come, I wonder where you see the problems related to this device.
Yeah, you're right, I just hope this device gets more attention from the kernel devs. There's where the real improvements can be done I guess.
 
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Chrisgia

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And EVEN IF we end up not getting much more out of the device from devs, I personally think that you don't necessarily need other custom roms anymore, because we already have so many tweaking possibilites.

With MIUI based custom roms (like ROS i'm currently on, or Xiaomi.eu) you get your phone debloated + a few tweaks already out of the box.

After switching to ROS, it felt better but still missed some little tweaks you often get in AOSP based Roms, like switching to next / previous track when screen is off by long pressing volume buttons, or double tap on status bar to sleep. So I found out about CustoMIUIzer, which brings all of that + more.

At last I wanted a little bit more color / theme customization, so I played around with the Themes app. At first I thought the themes will not change much, or that there are only ugly ones out there, but actually if you take your time and scroll through them you'll actually find some gems, and they're free ! (not like on Huawei's Themes App I previously had a bad experience with on my old P10). I recommend the user "peywizart", he has some good ones.
And you can combine them, like take the lockscreen of one theme, the icons of the other, the status bar of another, which can already get you a nice looking UI.

But eventually, I ended up wanting to stay with the stock theme and changing the colors myself. So I found out (yesterday actually, on the CustoMIUIzer thread, thanks user kaizer hanz !) that Swift Installer works quite well with MIUI. I actually bought the app, because I think paying 2 bucks for cross overlay customization (I will be able to use it on any phone / overlay later) is really not bad.

I agree that it would be better if other roms came out that are maybe better optimised, and have all these customizations out of the box, but I think we already have pretty good dev support and possibilities with this phone for now. And until we get a bugfree AOSP experience for our device, I guess I'll stick with my current setup and dream about my good old memories of AOKP on my Nexus 4 :)

So now I'm here, with a snappy, stable phone, with all camera features and fingerprint working, decent battery life, and customized to my likings. Check my signature and screenshots to see what I'm running with links.

Cheers !
 

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    I've owned various Android devices since my first Cupcake phone. Every time I get a new device, one of the first things I do is to come here to see how the development is going. I've never got a new phone that had the forums soo empty. I don't know if it's just too soon or if this particular phone will never become a model loved by our friends that use to give us the best custom experience in this forums. What do you think?


    Well, if you are looking for a custom ROM, there are are few such as PE.
    BUT: I personally have used custom ROMs on every device I have owned, EXCEPT for my Mi9!
    REASON: Custom ROMs will break useful functions of the device such as the AI-button and Fingerprint.
    I love the MIUI ROM the way it is, it has many functions that are missing in vanilla Android.
    For those who say, it is too complicated: You are either too lazy or don't want to learn new stuff - or both.


    ROOT:


    And I absolutely refuse to use a device that I can't root in order to De-Bloat and Firewall it, etc...

    So here my instructions for successfully root. Please DON'T ask about other ROMs or other ways to root!
    I have failed with many other intructions and I found what works perfectly for me, as it should for you as well.


    [FONT=&quot]HOW TO ROOT MI9 SUCCESSFULLY[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]ATTENTION: [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]If your device comes new out of the box, the bootloader needs to be unlocked.
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Use this tool: https://en.miui.com/unlock/download_en.html
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]You do need to connect your Mi9 to your MI account and you need to wait for the Flash Tool to work after the waiting period.
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]But you must first initiate the wait count by using the flash tool.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]If flashing bricked device with Mi-FlashTool, the Bootloader becomes locked again and needs to be unlocked.
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]If your the waiting period is over, this goes instantly.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Install the CORRECT TWRP via “fastboot flash recovery twrp-new.img” then install the latest Stable GLOBAL ROM from here:[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]http://en.miui.com/download-361.html[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Without installing anything else, set-up the system!
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Do NOT USE the option to restore your apps (since another wipe is necessary after rooting).
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]There is also no need to login to Play-Store or MI-Sync.
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I don’t use Mi-Sync nor any other MI-Apps at all!!![/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Enable Developer Options, then USB-Debugging and Unknown-Sources.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Check unlock status of MI Account in Dev-Options, add account.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Without installing anything else, set-up the system, YES – AGAIN since BL was locked.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]Install Mi9 specific TWRP 3.2.3 from Mauronofrio from here.[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot][RECOVERY][3.3.1-35][cepheus]Unofficial TWRP for Xiaomi Mi 9 (Stable) or newer:[/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/development/recovery-unofficial-twrp-xiaomi-mi-9-t3905825[/FONT]

    After flashing TWRP, press volume up and power together and hold both until the phone reboots, let go of power after it vibrates but keep holding Vol up until it boots again to TWRP. That way it'll stick.

    [FONT=&quot]Install latest MAGISK from here: [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Update Magisk in Magisk Manager if necessary and Configure in Settings SU to always allow if you don’t like to have the danger of missing a SU-Request.
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]You might keep the notifications on for a while to see that it works.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Install Busybox and verify that it stays installed, if not change settings.
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]The Busybox from Jared Rummler [/FONT]JRummy Apps [FONT=&quot]should stick if installed into /system/xbin/ or try another location.
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]I had trouble having the version from [/FONT]Stephen (Stericson) [FONT=&quot]stick.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]To check if rooting was successfully, I suggest Advanced Root Checker:
    [/FONT]
    [FONT=&quot]https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anu.developers3k.rootchecker&hl=de [/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]If you want to block Ads, install ADAWAY manually since it is not in the Store. [/FONT]


    AND PLAESE REMEMBER:
    I will be glad to help with my method!
    DO NOT ASK ABOUT OTHER METHODS!
    Why: I spent much time to make this work while other methods terribly failed.


    Thanks


    Robert




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    We're just exchanging impressions on the device's potential to get a strong development community, not complaining or demanding from devs. I think our impressions are based in another time. Maybe we're older here, I don't know. I think that the forums used to be more populated in the past, especially for a device that offers such a strong hardware for the price it costs.
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    And EVEN IF we end up not getting much more out of the device from devs, I personally think that you don't necessarily need other custom roms anymore, because we already have so many tweaking possibilites.

    With MIUI based custom roms (like ROS i'm currently on, or Xiaomi.eu) you get your phone debloated + a few tweaks already out of the box.

    After switching to ROS, it felt better but still missed some little tweaks you often get in AOSP based Roms, like switching to next / previous track when screen is off by long pressing volume buttons, or double tap on status bar to sleep. So I found out about CustoMIUIzer, which brings all of that + more.

    At last I wanted a little bit more color / theme customization, so I played around with the Themes app. At first I thought the themes will not change much, or that there are only ugly ones out there, but actually if you take your time and scroll through them you'll actually find some gems, and they're free ! (not like on Huawei's Themes App I previously had a bad experience with on my old P10). I recommend the user "peywizart", he has some good ones.
    And you can combine them, like take the lockscreen of one theme, the icons of the other, the status bar of another, which can already get you a nice looking UI.

    But eventually, I ended up wanting to stay with the stock theme and changing the colors myself. So I found out (yesterday actually, on the CustoMIUIzer thread, thanks user kaizer hanz !) that Swift Installer works quite well with MIUI. I actually bought the app, because I think paying 2 bucks for cross overlay customization (I will be able to use it on any phone / overlay later) is really not bad.

    I agree that it would be better if other roms came out that are maybe better optimised, and have all these customizations out of the box, but I think we already have pretty good dev support and possibilities with this phone for now. And until we get a bugfree AOSP experience for our device, I guess I'll stick with my current setup and dream about my good old memories of AOKP on my Nexus 4 :)

    So now I'm here, with a snappy, stable phone, with all camera features and fingerprint working, decent battery life, and customized to my likings. Check my signature and screenshots to see what I'm running with links.

    Cheers !
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    Just wait lol. There arn't many devices (if any) with snapdragon 855 and bug free custom ROMs yet.

    Exactly this. Being on the technology's bleeding edge means not many users will have it already. To be honest, I'm more than happy with what we currently have, a fully working stable TWRP, Miui is actually quite good, and I had a lot of fear it wouldn't be, as this is my first Xiaomi device, Floko, PixelExperience, LineageOS, crdroid, viperOS and all this for a very recent SoC used in few devices.
    Honestly, I'm not concerned at all.
    Custom kernels? Who needs them when you have LTK on magisk.
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    I've owned various Android devices since my first Cupcake phone. Every time I get a new device, one of the first things I do is to come here to see how the development is going. I've never got a new phone that had the forums soo empty. I don't know if it's just too soon or if this particular phone will never become a model loved by our friends that use to give us the best custom experience in this forums. What do you think?

    Same opinion, even from the official developers, this device is stuck on MIUI 10.2 stable both china and global since it came out, MIUI 10.4 stable its already out for some devices like the Mi 6 and we're on MIUI 10.5 over the beta...
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