General Joying Android 8.1 Intel Airmont eight-core 1.8GHz SC9853i (4GB RAM, 32GB flash)

Search This thread
By:
Advanced…
realzoulou

realzoulou

Senior Member
Nov 3, 2016
987
1,252
Greater Area Munich
I just found new kind of devices on Joyings website and did not yet find any posts about it.
The Android 8.1 based devices are again Intel based, no Rockchip PX5 anymore.
CPU: Intel Airmont eight-core 1.8GHz SC9853i
RAM: LPDDR4 4GB
Flash: Samsung 32GB
Several display sizes are available, all still with the known 1024x600 resolution.

The CPU is an outcome of a cooperation by Intel and Speadtrum (see https://www.anandtech.com/show/12592/intels-last-atom-in-smartphones-a-2018-benchmark),
and another Atom 64-bit architecture spinoff (see https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/airmont).
The GPU is a dual core Arm Mali-T820 GPU.

Anyone that had a chance to get hands on such a device and could make a comparision to the current PX5 based devices?

EDITs:
How to root: https://forum.xda-developers.com/an.../howto-root-joying-sc9853i-head-unit-t3915530
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: mashrom, Arkright and doomerxx
M

mumu409

New member
Jan 4, 2009
3
0
Just picked this unit up last week. my first Android Head unit. cant compare it to any other units.
 
M

MIndrunner

Member
Aug 14, 2006
8
1
This CPU is at least 30% faster then PX5/PX6. Is 14nm technology.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_20190208_001844.jpg
    IMG_20190208_001844.jpg
    240 KB · Views: 5,124
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: realzoulou
J

juandhi

Senior Member
Apr 7, 2007
79
37
Los Angeles
Thats very promising. Anybody know if Android Auto would work for phones running pie? So sad i can't get that workon my old intel sofia.
 
D

deedeebulldog

Senior Member
Jun 14, 2008
89
13
juandhi said:
Thats very promising. Anybody know if Android Auto would work for phones running pie? So sad i can't get that workon my old intel sofia.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

No Android Auto does not work. At least the way its supposed to. You can install it on the unit if you have WiFi tether, but that defeats the point. Also the EasyConnected app will not work. Joying said that they were working on getting Android Auto working, so maybe in the next update.
My wife has a PX5 and I had the SoFIA model. This one is much faster. It still has problems like the WiFi randomly disconnecting and reconnecting. Only 1 SD card slot and it has randomly disconnected at times as well.
 
M

millab

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2007
325
55
Canberra
deedeebulldog said:
No Android Auto does not work. At least the way its supposed to. You can install it on the unit if you have WiFi tether, but that defeats the point. Also the EasyConnected app will not work. Joying said that they were working on getting Android Auto working, so maybe in the next update.
My wife has a PX5 and I had the SoFIA model. This one is much faster. It still has problems like the WiFi randomly disconnecting and reconnecting. Only 1 SD card slot and it has randomly disconnected at times as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Have you tried Headunit Reloaded? It's an Android Auto emulator for headunits
 
  • Like
Reactions: deedeebulldog
C

checksum123

Senior Member
Jan 27, 2012
263
38
juandhi said:
Thats very promising. Anybody know if Android Auto would work for phones running pie? So sad i can't get that workon my old intel sofia.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Joying have their own app to work with android auto and apple play, it is called ZLINK, it works with 8.1, but I am not sure about pie, since not many phone are running pie.
Maye you can ask them and let us know.
 
F

fabien_m2002

Senior Member
Mar 17, 2014
114
8
Hello

strange, i cannot install PowerAmp v3 (only v2 is available). I cannot understant, v3 is working with Android 8.1, so the CPU is not supported?
 
R

Russell_S

Senior Member
Feb 24, 2013
93
19
Portsmouth
fabien_m2002 said:
Hello

strange, i cannot install PowerAmp v3 (only v2 is available). I cannot understant, v3 is working with Android 8.1, so the CPU is not supported?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

I was faced with this issue as well. The play store would only show Poweramp v2 so I searched the Poweramp forums and it turns out that Intel (x86) hardware is only supported by v2 and support was dropped in v3 and would only support ARM hardware.
However, I posted a question on the forum which you can see here: https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/16541-intel-based-car-head-unit/ and as you can see I have got it working although I'm still not sure why.

In summary, just uninstall v2, download the v3 apk from here https://powerampapp.com/download-poweramp/ and install it and it should run fine. Then just install the unlocker from the play store as normal (assuming you have the paid version) and it works fine. I'm now running Poweramp v3 on my Intel based Joying unit with no issues whatsoever. Just remember to turn off auto update for Poweramp in the play store otherwise I think it will 'upgrade' it to v2 again.

As I said though, I really don't know how it's working as others have said that they cannot get it to run at all on other Intel based hardware.

Hope this works for you.
 
F

fabien_m2002

Senior Member
Mar 17, 2014
114
8
Russell_S said:
I was faced with this issue as well. The play store would only show Poweramp v2 so I searched the Poweramp forums and it turns out that Intel (x86) hardware is only supported by v2 and support was dropped in v3 and would only support ARM hardware.
However, I posted a question on the forum which you can see here: https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/16541-intel-based-car-head-unit/ and as you can see I have got it working although I'm still not sure why.

In summary, just uninstall v2, download the v3 apk from here https://powerampapp.com/download-poweramp/ and install it and it should run fine. Then just install the unlocker from the play store as normal (assuming you have the paid version) and it works fine. I'm now running Poweramp v3 on my Intel based Joying unit with no issues whatsoever. Just remember to turn off auto update for Poweramp in the play store otherwise I think it will 'upgrade' it to v2 again.

As I said though, I really don't know how it's working as others have said that they cannot get it to run at all on other Intel based hardware.

Hope this works for you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello
thanks it works :)

I have another question with Poweramp, i set volume to 100% and it reduces automatically to 87%! Strange because i disable limiter.
Any idea?

Thanks again
 
R

Russell_S

Senior Member
Feb 24, 2013
93
19
Portsmouth
fabien_m2002 said:
Hello
thanks it works :)

I have another question with Poweramp, i set volume to 100% and it reduces automatically to 87%! Strange because i disable limiter.
Any idea?

Thanks again
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

I'm glad it's working.

I'm afraid I have no idea regarding the volume issue. It's not something I've noticed but I may just be anaware of it. Where are you trying to set the volume, on the main unit volume buttons or somewhere in Poweramp itself.
 
F

fabien_m2002

Senior Member
Mar 17, 2014
114
8
Russell_S said:
I'm glad it's working.

I'm afraid I have no idea regarding the volume issue. It's not something I've noticed but I may just be anaware of it. Where are you trying to set the volume, on the main unit volume buttons or somewhere in Poweramp itself.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

In poweramp, in the tone settings (the knob volume) when music is playing
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

T
General New Joying Android 10 UIS7862 Octacore 1.8GHz (4GB RAM, 64GB flash)
Replies
938
Views
218K
surfer63
surfer63
gtxaspec
  • Locked
Software Development [CLOSED] [ROM] [CUSTOM] [INTEL JOYING] GTX joying ROM V9a3 2018-04-22
Replies
2K
Views
315K
T
TNSMANI
P
General HowTo: Root Joying SC9853i Head Unit
Replies
629
Views
122K
M
marchnz
G
General ROLL-UP -Joying 2GB - Sofia ( Non MTCB/MTCD )- Tips, tricks and mods
Replies
2K
Views
270K
surfer63
surfer63
E
General Joying Intel Sofia - All you need to know - micro tutorials - Q&A
Replies
689
Views
163K
C
cagatay87

Top Liked Posts

24 Hours All time
  • There are no posts matching your filters.
  • 9
    P
    prrlhkr
    colonel_lp said:
    Has anyone tried the root method reposted from the Russian site? Building up to trying it, but if it's been tried and doesn't work it would be good to know.
    Click to expand...
    Click to collapse

    Just got it working on my HU!
    We're rooted!! :D:D:D

    For reference, I am using the factory image I posted way back on page 5.

    A few notes about the installation:
    1) Magisk Manager does not work with the stock File Manager
    -When you go to patch the boot image, Magisk Manager crashes
    -I rebooted my device and installed "File Manager" (the ASUS one, but shouldn't matter) from the play store
    -Next I force-stopped Magisk Manager
    -Finally I re-opened Magisk Manager and was able to select my boot.img to patch.

    2)Start.bat file in Root.zip points to the wrong zip file, so after you add "patched_boot.img" to the archive, rename the archive from"6521_1_input.zip" to "input.zip".
    -Alternatively you can just change the single line in the batch file to the correct filename :p

    If anyone's interested I can probably type up a longer step-by-step howto and post it tomorrow.

    Happy rooting!
    View
    7
    surfer63
    surfer63
    ojuniour said:
    Since this a one of those things that people wanted , I am going to make a new topic to give full details...
    You have to be rooted first..then go to the root directory, them oem folder, them in the config.txt you will see a line (i forgot exactly ) but something like..com.fyt.bt = "1"
    set it to "0"
    and then save and reboot.
    if you have the new latest updates, the bluetooth setting in the android menu will disappear (at least on mine it did).. you can use a third party tool to show the bluetooth setting if you want to see and pair devices from there.
    Or you can just use the conventional way .. (the default bluetooth app )
    on the 4pa forum, I read if setting it to 0 doesn't work you can try different numbers up until 5.
    Please give it a show and let me see if it works for ya. :)
    Click to expand...
    Click to collapse

    OK,

    So it is config.txt in /oem/app and the value is "sys.fyt.bluetooth_type=1".
    For those who are rooted they can follow @ojuniour method.

    For those who are not rooted (like myself as I don't want it): That is also a very simple action. (Edit: and also rooted users can use that method)
    Unzip attached zip file to a clean USB-stick. It only contains the config.txt and lsec6521update. Use this to flash your device. It will be a superfast flash only updating the config.txt (please don't fear the maybe scary messages about "resetting to factory defaults". I does not do that, it is just a message from the flash program for a "normal" flash).
    It is actually the exact same approach as I described in "Modding your Joying/FYT SC9853i unit without root" in the first 3 posts.
    The config.txt contains the value "sys.fyt.bluetooth_type=0". Simply replace by 2-5 if it doesn't work and flash again, like described in the 4pda topic @ojuniour referred to (Thanks again for that).

    Note: After reboot I took my bluetooth keyboard in the car and tried to connect with the BT app. It did find the keyboard and wanted to link it, but stayed on "linking", without actually linking.
    So I installed "Bluetooth Pair" from Waylon Huang (simply the first in my search in the play store) and with that one I could successfully pair my BT keyboard (and type 10x as fast as with the onscreen soft-kyboard)

    More tests will follow.
    View
    7
    julien_blanche
    julien_blanche
    elabjer said:
    Does anyone have an idea how to totally wipe the unit? twipe_all doesn't seem to cut it. (I also pushed some LCD configuration from one of the older versions, but to no avail)
    Click to expand...
    Click to collapse

    Hi, today i got an e-mail from joying as below;

    Dear friend,

    According to the button light problems, there is a resolved file come out, please check and update: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_Hfn-vFb0MDqeWOzqC9Jn3JI2HRj3F_0

    I have downloaded and examined the files by checking crc sha-256 and all of them identical as 14-08-2019 update except Stm32ud.bin file which is mcu. So no need to download again 1gb update file for update. Just extract below attached file and put them in to the usb then unit will update itself without loss of data. You can keep all the settings without losing anything.

    Normally joying should advise above procedure to prevent unnecessary loss of time instead every time advising full update but i already lowered my expectations :D

    Cheers.
    View
    6
    realzoulou
    realzoulou
    Try those from the Flyaudio Intel Airmont devices https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=79415422

    Factory Settings: 3368

    Developer Settings: 3368

    Backlight current adjustment: 5768

    Door lock interference: 0000

    I assume the system apps are very similar, if not equal.
    View
    6
    S
    seb21
    kuku2004 said:
    Google voice control/assistant works except there is no voice feedback (assistant answers but there is no voice)
    Click to expand...
    Click to collapse


    Easy to fix.
    Open 190000000_com.syu.ms.apk with 7zip or winrar or simmilar. Just open , no need to unpack.
    Go to assets\app_category
    Open voice_app.txt and delete or comment out everything with "#"
    Code: 
    #语音应用，语音应用在录音时需要机器临时静音，以免干扰录音，影响识别效果
#通常语音应用录音开始时会请求Audio Focus,该文件中适配的应用，在申请Audio Focus时
#服务会做相应的音频处理，释放Audio Focus时恢复到当前状态声音输出
com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox #Google语音
com.txznet.txz
    Save the file back in the archive and copy apk back to \oem\190000000.com.syu.ms.
    Reboot and enjoy assistant voice answers.
    View

New posts