General Joying Android 8.1 Intel Airmont eight-core 1.8GHz SC9853i (4GB RAM, 32GB flash)

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realzoulou

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I just found new kind of devices on Joyings website and did not yet find any posts about it.
The Android 8.1 based devices are again Intel based, no Rockchip PX5 anymore.
CPU: Intel Airmont eight-core 1.8GHz SC9853i
RAM: LPDDR4 4GB
Flash: Samsung 32GB
Several display sizes are available, all still with the known 1024x600 resolution.

The CPU is an outcome of a cooperation by Intel and Speadtrum (see https://www.anandtech.com/show/12592/intels-last-atom-in-smartphones-a-2018-benchmark),
and another Atom 64-bit architecture spinoff (see https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/microarchitectures/airmont).
The GPU is a dual core Arm Mali-T820 GPU.

Anyone that had a chance to get hands on such a device and could make a comparision to the current PX5 based devices?

EDITs:
How to root: https://forum.xda-developers.com/an.../howto-root-joying-sc9853i-head-unit-t3915530
 
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mumu409

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Just picked this unit up last week. my first Android Head unit. cant compare it to any other units.
 

MIndrunner

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This CPU is at least 30% faster then PX5/PX6. Is 14nm technology.
 

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juandhi

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Thats very promising. Anybody know if Android Auto would work for phones running pie? So sad i can't get that workon my old intel sofia.
 

deedeebulldog

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Thats very promising. Anybody know if Android Auto would work for phones running pie? So sad i can't get that workon my old intel sofia.

No Android Auto does not work. At least the way its supposed to. You can install it on the unit if you have WiFi tether, but that defeats the point. Also the EasyConnected app will not work. Joying said that they were working on getting Android Auto working, so maybe in the next update.
My wife has a PX5 and I had the SoFIA model. This one is much faster. It still has problems like the WiFi randomly disconnecting and reconnecting. Only 1 SD card slot and it has randomly disconnected at times as well.
 

millab

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No Android Auto does not work. At least the way its supposed to. You can install it on the unit if you have WiFi tether, but that defeats the point. Also the EasyConnected app will not work. Joying said that they were working on getting Android Auto working, so maybe in the next update.
My wife has a PX5 and I had the SoFIA model. This one is much faster. It still has problems like the WiFi randomly disconnecting and reconnecting. Only 1 SD card slot and it has randomly disconnected at times as well.

Have you tried Headunit Reloaded? It's an Android Auto emulator for headunits
 
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checksum123

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Thats very promising. Anybody know if Android Auto would work for phones running pie? So sad i can't get that workon my old intel sofia.
Joying have their own app to work with android auto and apple play, it is called ZLINK, it works with 8.1, but I am not sure about pie, since not many phone are running pie.
Maye you can ask them and let us know.
 

fabien_m2002

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Hello

strange, i cannot install PowerAmp v3 (only v2 is available). I cannot understant, v3 is working with Android 8.1, so the CPU is not supported?
 

Russell_S

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strange, i cannot install PowerAmp v3 (only v2 is available). I cannot understant, v3 is working with Android 8.1, so the CPU is not supported?

I was faced with this issue as well. The play store would only show Poweramp v2 so I searched the Poweramp forums and it turns out that Intel (x86) hardware is only supported by v2 and support was dropped in v3 and would only support ARM hardware.
However, I posted a question on the forum which you can see here: https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/16541-intel-based-car-head-unit/ and as you can see I have got it working although I'm still not sure why.

In summary, just uninstall v2, download the v3 apk from here https://powerampapp.com/download-poweramp/ and install it and it should run fine. Then just install the unlocker from the play store as normal (assuming you have the paid version) and it works fine. I'm now running Poweramp v3 on my Intel based Joying unit with no issues whatsoever. Just remember to turn off auto update for Poweramp in the play store otherwise I think it will 'upgrade' it to v2 again.

As I said though, I really don't know how it's working as others have said that they cannot get it to run at all on other Intel based hardware.

Hope this works for you.
 

fabien_m2002

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I was faced with this issue as well. The play store would only show Poweramp v2 so I searched the Poweramp forums and it turns out that Intel (x86) hardware is only supported by v2 and support was dropped in v3 and would only support ARM hardware.
However, I posted a question on the forum which you can see here: https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/16541-intel-based-car-head-unit/ and as you can see I have got it working although I'm still not sure why.

In summary, just uninstall v2, download the v3 apk from here https://powerampapp.com/download-poweramp/ and install it and it should run fine. Then just install the unlocker from the play store as normal (assuming you have the paid version) and it works fine. I'm now running Poweramp v3 on my Intel based Joying unit with no issues whatsoever. Just remember to turn off auto update for Poweramp in the play store otherwise I think it will 'upgrade' it to v2 again.

As I said though, I really don't know how it's working as others have said that they cannot get it to run at all on other Intel based hardware.

Hope this works for you.
Hello
thanks it works :)

I have another question with Poweramp, i set volume to 100% and it reduces automatically to 87%! Strange because i disable limiter.
Any idea?

Thanks again
 

Russell_S

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Hello
thanks it works :)

I have another question with Poweramp, i set volume to 100% and it reduces automatically to 87%! Strange because i disable limiter.
Any idea?

Thanks again

I'm glad it's working.

I'm afraid I have no idea regarding the volume issue. It's not something I've noticed but I may just be anaware of it. Where are you trying to set the volume, on the main unit volume buttons or somewhere in Poweramp itself.
 

fabien_m2002

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I'm glad it's working.

I'm afraid I have no idea regarding the volume issue. It's not something I've noticed but I may just be anaware of it. Where are you trying to set the volume, on the main unit volume buttons or somewhere in Poweramp itself.

In poweramp, in the tone settings (the knob volume) when music is playing
 

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