Just in case anyone was wondering, Honeycomb = phones too

ap3604

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About 11:00 into the video interview:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/07/exclusive-interview-googles-matias-duarte-talks-honeycomb-tab/

"What you see in Honeycomb is absolutely the direction for Android."

- Matias Duarte, Director of Android User Experience
Thanks for posting the Paul :)

I wonder if the future of Android phones, post Honeycomb, is to stop making phones with the capacitive buttons (back, menu, home, search) and instead just have purely a screen relying upon Honeycomb's virtual buttons instead?

Probably wont happen but just a thought...
 
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Paul22000

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Thanks for posting the Paul :)

I wonder if the future of Android phones, post Honeycomb, is to stop making phones with the capacitive buttons (back, menu, home, search) and instead just have purely a screen relying upon Honeycomb's virtual buttons instead?

Probably wont happen but just a thought...
:)

He actually goes into it in the interview about "reducing Android's hardware requirements" and that most likely yes, phones and tablets won't need physical or capacitive buttons. But he says they are leaving it open to the manufacturer; if someone wants or needs those buttons, then they can do it. (I suspect Honeycomb phones won't have the traditional 4 hardware buttons.)

Anyway, it's a great interview and highly recommend it; I'm still listening to it on and off. :cool:
 

Clarkster

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Just finished that interview. It really puts a lot of things into perspective and gets me excited for the future of Android.

300,000 new activations per day now too. :) And as was confirmed before, these aren't new rom installs or upgrades, they are new devices.
 

elmerendeiro

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Ok so
-honeycomb is for phones too
-honeycomb can support hardware buttons
-honeycomb has no minimum hardware requirements

Sooo why didn'they develop honeycomb for nexus one too? Why put efforts developing a 2.3 (maybe even a 2.4) release then?

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pfmiller

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Sooo why didn'they develop honeycomb for nexus one too? Why put efforts developing a 2.3 (maybe even a 2.4) release then?
Gingerbread is not wasted effort, much of work done there will carry over to Honeycomb. The keyboard for instance, and the kernel changes such as the new garbage collector.

If they wanted to get tablets out the door it makes sense to focus on that initially. They say the new interface scales down to phones too, but I'm sure it will take some extra time.
 

arkavat

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my dream/wish is something very to what motorola has done with astrix.. but better

Honeycomb phone.... looks like and works like a phone...
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A dock.. looks like a tablet.. but is essentially just a screen with a battery like compartment in the back.
Put the the phone in the compartment..the interface changes to tablet GUI

It will be an irresistible combo!
 

Mokurex

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How does "What you see in Honeycomb is absolutely the direction for android" = "Honeycomb is coming to mobile phones"?

I haven't watch a single second of the interview so he might explained it further there, but the sentence you specifically highlighted out does not mean Honeycomb is guaranteed to come to mobile phones.

Yes, you could interpret it as honeycomb is the direction for android, and since mobile phones run android, we're going to get it for mobile phones right? But it could also mean the honeycomb ui is the direction for mobile phones but we're not going to implement it on mobile phone right now as we're focusing on tablets and we hope to make the ui on both mobile phones and tablets the same in Ice cream(or whatever they end up calling it).

Like I said, haven't watch the vid, but this is my take on the one sentence op took out to state his point.
 

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More video evidence (from last month) that Honeycomb will work on phones:

youtube.com/watch?v=koIzhLaRJJo

At 4:27...
Interviewer: Is Honeycomb just a version of Android that happens to work well on tablets or is it a tablet version of Android?
Andy Rubin: It's both.

Later at 6:10 Andy Rubin elaborates further by mentioning a Honeycomb "Fragments API" which allows developers to define a smartphone and tablet UI for their applications.
 

pfmiller

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How does "What you see in Honeycomb is absolutely the direction for android" = "Honeycomb is coming to mobile phones"?

I haven't watch a single second of the interview..
He gave the link to the video for a reason. You should probably watch it before saying he's wrong.
 

Clarkster

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How does "What you see in Honeycomb is absolutely the direction for android" = "Honeycomb is coming to mobile phones"?

I haven't watch a single second of the interview so he might explained it further there, but the sentence you specifically highlighted out does not mean Honeycomb is guaranteed to come to mobile phones.

Yes, you could interpret it as honeycomb is the direction for android, and since mobile phones run android, we're going to get it for mobile phones right? But it could also mean the honeycomb ui is the direction for mobile phones but we're not going to implement it on mobile phone right now as we're focusing on tablets and we hope to make the ui on both mobile phones and tablets the same in Ice cream(or whatever they end up calling it).

Like I said, haven't watch the vid, but this is my take on the one sentence op took out to state his point.
You should probably watch the video then. One quote is just to make his point. You can't pick it apart just on that fact, it is a basic way to communicate, pick a part of something to start the conversation.

Watch the video, I won't spell it out for you. But Honeycomb is for everything.
 

Mokurex

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He gave the link to the video for a reason. You should probably watch it before saying he's wrong.
I have never once said that he's wrong, he's probably correct by all means. My point was that the title of the thread says honeycomb is coming to phone, I clicked in here, see a quote highlighted in bold which doesn't really explain the point and a 20 minute long video. I assume the quote is supposed to be the main point of the video, so that's why I responded based off of that.

I'm not accusing anybody or trolling for that matter, just voicing my opinion in an open forum. Chill guys =)
 

pfmiller

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My apologies if I sounded too harsh. You really should watch the video though, it answers all your questions and is really quite interesting.
 

tommyz2kool

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I have never once said that he's wrong, he's probably correct by all means. My point was that the title of the thread says honeycomb is coming to phone, I clicked in here, see a quote highlighted in bold which doesn't really explain the point and a 20 minute long video. I assume the quote is supposed to be the main point of the video, so that's why I responded based off of that
Why do you think the link to the video is there?
 

Shahpur.Azizpour

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I have some contacts at HTC and was told that Honeycomb update is tablet only and HTC Sense is still possible (killing the rumours that Google might forbid UI skins starting from Honeycomb). So we won't see Honeycomb for phones, but we will see Honeycomb features coming to phones starting with the next Android version (ice cream).

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sciulli999

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I have some contacts at HTC and was told that Honeycomb update is tablet only and HTC Sense is still possible (killing the rumours that Google might forbid UI skins starting from Honeycomb). So we won't see Honeycomb for phones, but we will see Honeycomb features coming to phones starting with the next Android version (ice cream).

Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
who cares what it's actually going to be called though? I suspect that yes, the phone version will get a different delineation than just 3.0 Honeycomb. Probably 3.2 Ice Cream. I guess we'll see it first at the Google I/O event (May 10-11, 2011) and then show up early Fall on the next Nexus model?

The point from the interview though is that even if they call it Ice Cream for phones, it will look and act very similar to what they showed for tablets at CES (no hardware buttons, improved multi-tasking, scrollable widgets, etc). He also mentions that absolutely yes, Android is 100% still open and HTC or whoever can continue to skin.