Just to let everyone something to think about...

[InfX]

Read this link. Read it carefully. It's not just about Google being able to run whatever code they like on your devices, it's about Google DOING it, remotely, without any user intervention/confirmation.

What's next ? Let me throw some wild and far fetched guesses...

* Applanet like apps being killed off on the devices to fight piracy...
* Anything not from the market being wiped out from time to time, for the same reason...
* Users are hunted down and being prosecuted for piracy based on their devices content...
* The system is rigged/updated to block inappropriate content, such as pedophile sites...
* Users are being prosecuted for possessing and/or visiting inappropriate content/providers...
* The "inappropriate" extends to warez sites and regular porn sites, "bad" users are still prosecuted...
* The "inappropriate" extend to the "wrong" political sites, "bad" users are still prosecuted...
* .......

I bet you get the idea. And yea, i know i am taking it too far, but still

PS: Let me add something... the builds we are running on our HD2 are often partially illegal (gaps) etc... hint hint

 

[kam333]

maybe a little paranoid, ok, well maybe a lot

* The system is rigged/updated to block inappropriate content, such as pedophile sites...

not sure why you mentioned this, anyone in their right mind would welcome this particular point.

 

[InfX]

maybe a little paranoid, ok, well maybe a lot

A lot, exaggerated to the max, of course. But that doesn't turn what Google does right.

not sure why you mentioned this, anyone in their right mind would welcome this particular point.

Thats EXACTLY why i mentioned it.

 

[kam333]

A lot, exaggerated to the max, of course. But that doesn't turn what Google does right.


Thats EXACTLY why i mentioned it.

personally, i think google already knows tooooo much about its users, but in the case of malware, google is definitely the lesser of the 2 evils

let me ask you this, would you rather the big G have some remote access to your device or hackers collecting your personal info. Its the connected world, there's no turning back!!!

only real solution for anyone worried about companies interfering with their device... remove the sim card... for ever.

gnight & dont have nightmares

 

[InfX]

would you rather the big G have some remote access to your device or hackers collecting your personal info.

Guess what... neither of those

 

[samsamuel]

Also, there are terrorists under the bed,chemtrails in the sky, bromine in the water,drug dealers at the school gates, drunks on fones in cars, bondage freaks at work,human traffickers, religious zealots bent coppers paedo nursery workers racists fanatics and plain clothes Google operatives spreading FUD in forums cos its cheaper and gets more results than million pound lawsuits. Oh and bloody clowns.

Just a random outpouring,please continue.

 

[huggs]

Infx may sound paranoid, and no person of any kind of moral decency would condone anbody using pedophelia porn or any other form of content that causes any kind of harm to anyone. But those are matters for the authorities to deal with, not google. If the internet's morality policies were enforced by a huge internet based company, wouldn't that be considered some kind of a conflict of interests somehow? I mean imagine if Disney were the biggest internet company, we'd never see so much as a single cuss-word or titty. Big companies shouldn't be able to impose their own commercialized morals upon users, the internet will inevitably grow more and more watered down. I don't consider myself a paranoid person, but this type of issue stinks of denial of 1st amendment rights, one step closer to completely government/corporate filtered news-tainment, and corporate control of the masses.

 

[InfX]

Huggs, i totally agree, thata why i posted this, not because i am actualluly that paranoid (would i still use Internet if i was ?). What i tried to do in my post is to demonstrate a worst case scenario, how would google start with somethimg that should be totally accepted by everyone (fighting pedophily) yet slowly move to fighting things we no longer want it to fight (political opinions).

PS: This little remote control thing is the first step for a corporate giant to become a corporate government, a corporate dictator. And the onlu things corporations care for is money, not their users.

PPS: Just my personal opinion, feel free to disagree.

 

[gogodu5sU]

I like that idea: http://code.google.com/p/open-android-alliance/

 

[kam333]

Guess what... neither of those

you really dont have a great deal of options

android, rim, ios & wp7 all have the ability to "spy" on their users to some degree,

mostly its just basic info such as: gps location, installed apps & how often they're used, crash logs, etc

some apps on ios have been caught out sending even more personal data. The point is, whilst i dont disagree fully with your concerns, i do see your post as somewhat hysterical.

There was no suggestion in the article you linked (or any other that ive read) that google is planning any of things you mentioned, so why mention them, as doing so only makes you a part of the current media trend of FUD as samsamuel put it.

this isnt about deny that all companies are in it 1st for the £$€, then customer welfare further down the list, im talking about being realistic. at this moment in time i cannot see google taking the path that you suggested, i also have far more immediate and real life things to focus on.

im all for a good conspiracy theory, fema detention camps springing up all over the usa (REX 84), the western so called "powers" planting the seeds of unrest in africa & the middle east so they can insert more puppets to secure natural resources (be it oil, gold, diamonds...), i could go on, but this isnt the place.

so let bring it back to google, you are in denial if you think cyber crime isnt going on, and with the rise of the smartphones we will see a rise of cyber crims trying to gain access. so i ask again who would you rather have access to your device?

if you still think or say neither, il know for sure you have lost the plot or you have taken my advice & binned your sim card cause thats the only other option you have.

@huggs, normally your post are quite informative & rational, that last post wasnt imho

no one was talking about censorship, the 1 point about google blocking access to child porn is something i would vote for, this has nothing to do with internet policing, you say thats down to the authorities, but they are not all seeing (no yet anyway) hence the use of informants by law enforcement the world wide, n thats all i would support. yes its possible that you give them a small mandate they will take it further but il worry about that IF the signs arise.

ppl who get there kick this way should have no rights, & should be actively hunted by whatever methods are available & taken out of the general population.

P.S.
Man i would love to have such a care free life that i need to start imagining then stressing about what may or may not happen, but i dont, my concerns are here & now, What you are talking about ISNT.

sorry for the lengthy post but your suggestions/posts are a subtle form of propaganda and a 1 line response really wouldn't cut it.

all the best

Kam

 

[Tribulattifather]

I say if we are doing something wrong and get caught that's our own fault.

 

[dung8604]

How is it illegal? Isn't android open license ie freeware?

Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

 

[InfX]

@kam333, i may be way less paranoid than you may think, mind the fact i've posted this as a VERY far-fetched and unrealistic speculation that only got slim to nil chance of actually happening, but it does demonstrate a possibility of undoubtedly good things becoming a base to slowly advance into nasty control-it-all direction. And, yea, your suggestion about binning the SIM card won't work. I still got WiFi

@dung8604, search the net about why Cyanogen mod no longer includes Google apps.

 

[lude219]

Well, I'm running a cooked rom without a Google account set up. So I can cross that off of the paranoid list.

 

[WorldWide60]

I can't say I'm surprised by anything written in the article.

 

[dung8604]

Did a quick search and from what i can tell, only Google apps are proprietary. Nothing about the OS itself though

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