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camielkb

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I want to use my TouchPro for tracking a long route i will be travelling shortly. When I turn of my device using the button on top when using a gps tracking-tool, the gps will disconnect and need to search for satellites again after turning on the device.
Does anybody know a trick (maybe in the registry) to keep the GPS alive?
 

avantgarde84

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Finally I managed to find this thread!!! I am also facing this problem and was wondering if there was anyway to prevent the GPS from closing and losing connection with satellites when the phone goes into sleep mode. Anyone with any ideas PLEASE HELP!!!

Btw I am using TomTom Navigator 7 with Australian maps...
 

apd

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I want to use my TouchPro for tracking a long route i will be travelling shortly. When I turn of my device using the button on top when using a gps tracking-tool, the gps will disconnect and need to search for satellites again after turning on the device.
Does anybody know a trick (maybe in the registry) to keep the GPS alive?

I seem to recall that TrackyPro has a function which will turn the screen off whilst still tracking the route. Is that the type of thing you're looking for?
 

avantgarde84

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Well basically I just want the GPS to still have the lock on the satellites EVEN when the device goes into standby. It's frustrating when after 3 minutes (my settings for power management) the device goes into standby and you realise that the GPS is closed when you turn it back on. So yup, as you said correctly, I want the GPS to still function even when the screen is off. Please guide me to wherever I can get the solution as I use alot of GPS!!!
 

Taajuus

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All good GPS software should have option to keep device on all the time while GPS fixed.

I dont think it's possible to keep GPS on while device is on standby mode. Anyway, GPS should stay on even if screen light is turned off for power save.
 

avantgarde84

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Well I am using TomTom Navigator 7 with Australian maps, and I have tried looking at the options in TomTom and I couldn't find any setting to keep the screen turned on while GPS is working. And you are correct in that applications such as GPS and Bluetooth are impossible to stay running when the device goes into standby, as this feature is an OEM feature in all Windows Mobile devices to save power. The only way out I see, is to go to Settings>System>Power>Advanced and untick 'Turn off device if not used for...' This way the backlight can be turned off (which saves power) but the device itself is not totally off. This method will still consume power since the device is technically not in standby, but it's probably the best we can get since there is just no way to have GPS to function with the screen totally off ie in standby.
 

apd

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Well I am using TomTom Navigator 7 with Australian maps, and I have tried looking at the options in TomTom and I couldn't find any setting to keep the screen turned on while GPS is working. And you are correct in that applications such as GPS and Bluetooth are impossible to stay running when the device goes into standby, as this feature is an OEM feature in all Windows Mobile devices to save power. The only way out I see, is to go to Settings>System>Power>Advanced and untick 'Turn off device if not used for...' This way the backlight can be turned off (which saves power) but the device itself is not totally off. This method will still consume power since the device is technically not in standby, but it's probably the best we can get since there is just no way to have GPS to function with the screen totally off ie in standby.


I don't think that TT has the option you need - it takes its power options from the device (including screen brightness). That is probably because TT probably thought most people would have their device plugged in whilst navigating given the power required for navigating with the screen on.

I find that another side effect of this is that if I am driving on a bright day, I need to turn off the auto light level feature of the Raph to make sure the screen is as bright as possible.
 

Coromoto

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Well basically I just want the GPS to still have the lock on the satellites EVEN when the device goes into standby. It's frustrating when after 3 minutes (my settings for power management) the device goes into standby and you realise that the GPS is closed when you turn it back on. So yup, as you said correctly, I want the GPS to still function even when the screen is off. Please guide me to wherever I can get the solution as I use alot of GPS!!!

I think it's a matter of semantics, but it may help you find a solution faster:

What you need is a tool / solution / procedure that turns only the screen off WITHOUT putting the phone in standby mode. Try searching for that; if you include the whole GPS tracking wish then you might not find what you're looking for so quickly.

Good luck and let us know if you found something that works for you!;)
 

lucid

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Just curious as to what tracking software is used?

Our free PocketReperion tool does keep the device from entering standby mode.

It's free software.

We just lauched a special version for the Raphael, v.1.53

Coolest thing is that you canupload audio / video / photo's and people who are trascking you (live) will see all the content you upload, on the spot that you uploaded it.

get the free client here :

http://www.reperion.com/newclient

be sure to register for a free account first, read the readme in the directory above :)

EDIT : SUPPOERTED MAPS :

Google Earth
Google Maps
Google Maps Mobile
Virtual Earth
Virtual Earth Mobile
Mappoint 2009
Yahoo! Maps
MapQuest

checkout the example at http://tracker3.reperion.com/wrldmap.aspx?name=d-8498
BETA : http://www.reperion.com/beta
 
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avantgarde84

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I think it's a matter of semantics, but it may help you find a solution faster:

What you need is a tool / solution / procedure that turns only the screen off WITHOUT putting the phone in standby mode. Try searching for that; if you include the whole GPS tracking wish then you might not find what you're looking for so quickly.

Good luck and let us know if you found something that works for you!;)

As far as I always remembered, the only time the screen can be turned off is when the phone goes into standby. In other words screen off=standby and vice versa and no other way to breakup this association. The option I have considered is what I have mentioned above, ie just letting the backlight turn off, but NOT turning the device off. But this will be a problem if you need to look at the screen constantly for navigation and cannot survive with just voice navigation. If you really do need the backlight to be turned on all the time, then go to Settings as well and untick the TUrn off backlight option too. Power will be gone in no time, then you probably will need to consider a in-car charger then...
 

avantgarde84

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Just curious as to what tracking software is used?

Our free PocketReperion tool does keep the device from entering standby mode.

It's free software.

We just lauched a special version for the Raphael, v.1.53

Coolest thing is that you canupload audio / video / photo's and people who are trascking you (live) will see all the content you upload, on the spot that you uploaded it.

get the free client here :

http://www.reperion.com/newclient

be sure to register for a free account first, read the readme in the directory above :)

EDIT : SUPPOERTED MAPS :

Google Earth
Google Maps
Google Maps Mobile
Virtual Earth
Virtual Earth Mobile
Mappoint 2009
Yahoo! Maps
MapQuest

checkout the example at http://tracker3.reperion.com/wrldmap.aspx?name=d-8498
BETA : http://www.reperion.com/beta

Thanks mate, will give it a test and see how it goes...
 

westhamman

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Hi, first post for me

I have wanted to do exactly the same thing, that is, keep the GPS tracking on my HTC Touch Diamond with the phone in "off" mode. The only way I have found to do it, is this; play music via a Bluetooth headset (you can pull out the jack-plug too, so no actual sound is heard). Now when you turn the phone "off" the GPS will continue to track.

There probably is some simple software out there that would work better, but this is my solution

Cheers:)
 
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jcespi2005

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Perhaps this helps...

Go to HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Suspend

and create a DWord value named NAV1: with value decimal 0 (0 means power on and here is a complet list of values)

This allos HTC GPS driver to stay on on suspend mode. I think this allows any application accesing GPS to get data while the PDA is off.

Can someone test it and report back?

If this works, i can create a CAB to easily deployment.

Cheers

Cheers
 

avantgarde84

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Perhaps this helps...

Go to HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Suspend

and create a DWord value named NAV1: with value decimal 0 (0 means power on and here is a complet list of values)

This allos HTC GPS driver to stay on on suspend mode. I think this allows any application accesing GPS to get data while the PDA is off.

Can someone test it and report back?

If this works, i can create a CAB to easily deployment.

Cheers

Cheers

Hi there, thanks alot for your discovery, will surely test it out later. With TomTom Navigator that I am using, once you have planned a route and it starts to navigate, the screen stays on forever. What I said earlier in my previous posts are irrelevant since TomTom just keeps the screen on and never dims the backlight nor turns off the device. So unchecking the Turn Off Device after XX mins is useless. Anyway we need some fix which can 1) Allow us to turn off the screen to save power but still have TomTom running and giving us navigation instructions and 2) Does not disconnect from satellite fixes when device is put into standby.

Your reg edit sounds like it will work, but will have to confirm it first. A cab file will be really appreciated. Cheers!

EDIT: preliminary testing: Turned on GPS outdoors, managed to get a satellite fix. Did not plan any route. Turned off screen (ie standby), turned back on, GPS signal was lost. Had to wait few seconds to reconnect to the satellites. Unsure about voice navigation while screen is off but since when I turned the screen back on the signal was lost already I don't think there will be any navigation when screen off. In short --> DOESNT WORK.
 
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th1nm1nt

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I didn't read through everyone's response, but what about just using a car charger, and setting the power settings to never turn off when turned on? You can turn down screen brightness if you're worried about the screen itself, but that should keep you connected at all times, and the battery should remain charged as well.


This also avoids registry tweaks that may have side effects. Simple, and painless in my mind.
 

jcespi2005

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EDIT: preliminary testing: Turned on GPS outdoors, managed to get a satellite fix. Did not plan any route. Turned off screen (ie standby), turned back on, GPS signal was lost. Had to wait few seconds to reconnect to the satellites. Unsure about voice navigation while screen is off but since when I turned the screen back on the signal was lost already I don't think there will be any navigation when screen off. In short --> DOESNT WORK.

The change of NAV1: only affect to GPS device, so perhaps the nav software need more devices to stay on to work (or really the soft changes the power state of devices itself). I tested the changes above with HTC GPS Tool and seems to work, but seems navigation software are not the same... sorry.

Cheers
 

doublecheese

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I'am using the IGO8 Navi Software on my Touch Pro.

I ride by mountain bike often and today I wanted to save the track I normally ride.

I turned on IGO 8 and get a satellite fix and started riding, when I came to my first check point I realised that on stand by mode, the IGO8 wasn't getting satellites.

So I minimised the IGO8 and I had the today screen on. I unticked turn-off device and turned the keylock on.

This was my only solution, it would be great to have the GPS running when switched off.
 
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apd

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I'am using the IGO8 Navi Software on my Touch Pro.

I ride by mountain bike often and today I wanted to save the track I normally ride.

I turned on IGO 8 and get a satellite fix and started riding, when I came to my first check point I realised that on stand by mode, the IGO8 wasn't getting satellites.

So I minimised the IGO8 and I had the today screen on. I unticked turn-off device and turned the keylock on.

This was my only solution, it would be great to have the GPS running when switched off.


Trackme has a GPS powersave mode which allows the screen to be turned off but will still record your track. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340667