What do you think of this KERNEL? (after some use) and reading!

  • It's just AWESOME! + Good Developer!

    Votes: 752 69.1%
  • It's Good and i like it more than any other.

    Votes: 216 19.8%
  • It's can be better, for now also trying others.

    Votes: 88 8.1%
  • I like OTHER KERNEL. this one is not for me.

    Votes: 33 3.0%

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azulgranas

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:-D wow this listening like a password for Windows, just for ur phone now, cool.

Joke beside...
Try the. Go into recovery mode and flash kernel again.
If same prob there must be something wrong with it.
So download for example siyah's kernel or an other one as .tar-file and flashing via Odin..

CHEERS ;-)

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Hi. I've just installed siyah via recovery and it's fine. Then I flashed this kernel again and the same problem still happens. Maybe it's just me so that i can't use this kernel :D. I assumed that this kernel has a secret password but seems it doesn't.
 

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Hi. I've just installed siyah via recovery and it's fine. Then I flashed this kernel again and the same problem still happens. Maybe it's just me so that i can't use this kernel :D. I assumed that this kernel has a secret password but seems it doesn't.
Maybe to warn other guys and help the dev u should tell us which rom u use ;-)

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I get the encryption password thing too even though encryption is not set up.

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pulser_g2

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Pfffft...

dominarix, do you always talk crap?

ODIN flash this kernel, and I await your apologies to all concerned, including myself for wasting my time. If you want to throw around accusations about it checking for the kernel name, then by all means do so. WHEN YOU CAN PROVE IT.

Heard of the command "grep"? I suggest you use it. There's no such code... Flash the attached kernel, and look at the about screen. Now go test out BLN.

Instructions to replicate this:

git clone https://github.com/gokhanmoral/siyahkernel3.git
git clone https://github.com/gokhanmoral/initramfs3

run "make siyah_defconfig"

Edit .config inside siyahkernel3 folder with nano or another editor.

Find line beginning CONFIG_LOCALVERSION

Change whatever it is to

CONFIG_LOCALVERSION="[email protected]"

./build_kernel.sh

Then open ExTweaks, and test out BLN.
 

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pulser_g2

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thing is that test is working! but when it's should really work on when you receive notification nothing happen,

I tested it on emails too.

i know how to clone compile and use, if it's was working, i would shut up and be happy man, but config is there, files are identical, but nothing happen, on notification.

As above, I have tested it on receiving emails.

all i did is asked why? i got only flame that i accuse, and that i am not developer and don't know what to do..

i am sorry for wasting your time, but gokhan insulted me lots of times, and i didn't reacted the same, so no apologies to him after all that he wrote about me.

You went and said to him that he was breaking the GPL, hiding commits etc... I challenge you to use grep or whatever else and point out what he "allegedly" did to cause this to happen. I have a local copy of the sources of many kernels, I am satisfied he's not "skipping commits".

i see that you just removed my developer status, well this is a shame, that you just kill my work in one click.

Yes, this is NOT how recognized developers should behave. You basically said "well it's your status or mine" earlier. And frankly with these kinds of attacks I've been seeing coming from you (to suggest another dev is breaking the GPL and yet be disproven with a simple test)...

i dont see any point releasing my kernel any more.

Fair enough, that is your choice.

you can just close the thread if this is the way of XDA,

XDA is not somewhere for people to bicker or argue. We work by facts. If you have a point to make, back it up... Perhaps you could have posted reproducible instructions (built from make clean), which show the issue you are experiencing?

Or perhaps you could have simply avoided the accusations, and asked gokhanmoral if he knew of any such issues... It's GPL after all, and he's hardly going to refuse to help diagnose what could potentially be a bug...


i have lots of good places to go, lot's of people still friends,

Nobody said you didn't, although judging by your behaviour in this thread, I question their reasons...

i will just do what i was, but not share it any more.

Again, that is your choice. It's not acceptable to go around bashing and attacking upstream works in the open source community. Be constructive, and don't post accusations you cannot back up.

good bye.

Have a good evening.
I have confirmed BLN functions both in test mode, and in regular "operating" mode when an email is received. Settings were at 1 minute "timeout", breath BLN mode. ROM used was CM9 18/5 nightly.

This information is posted for repeatibility of the test.
 
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pulser_g2

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well try on AOKP rom, this is where it's not working.

i have asked gokhan for help, didnt had any. he alway attacked me that i must think careful before accusing him for braking GPL, this is no help answer.

all i can say i worked hard, gave credits and respect to all devs, always thanked everyone, helped all my users, gave support day and night, spent countless hours working for people i dont know, and was happy to see any good reports and intrigue when bug reported, so i can see how to fix it.

and this is how i been treated? who is your boss? i like to ask him what he think of what you did!?

why people will want to be developers if in just one sec they loose all they worked for!

so lame.
You made an allegation that gokhanmoral was either breaking the GPL or somehow trying to hinder the use of BLN on kernels with names other than yours.

I believe this has pointed out there is no such code in place. If you cannot see that the following shows this, please re-read this:

- I have taken a clean source tree, and built the kernel using a different name
- I have then flashed this kernel, and demonstrated BLN works (I would post a photo of the kernel name AND bln lights on, if it were possible to have BLN show while screen is on)

You made the allegation he was breaking the GPL or otherwise being dishonest. Do you feel this is appropriate? Words are powerful, you've said them and now you can't take them back. Was it justified to accuse him of the GPL "violations" you cited, when in fact you had no evidence of this?

There is such a thing as good practice. It's where open source developers do not go about accusing each other of things, they instead work together. Your behaviour here clearly was not reflecting this general approach (which is one to take throughout the open source community, not just on XDA-Developers).

Feel free to contact one of the other admins if you wish to discuss this further. I'd suggest egzthunder1 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=252661) since this would probably be the line of enquiry he'd deal with.
 

pulser_g2

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I am very disappointed on how it was handled this controversy.

Moderators of a community like XDA that has a regulation characterized by friendship IMHO had to close with a scolding each other not with another charge.
The charge of dorimanx will be incorrect and perhaps even naive, but respectful. GM has insulted him.
It's completely unfair that Dorimanx has suffered this public pillory.

I did not think this was xda ... probably this was not the intent of MikeChannon



I know dorimanx for quite some time now and I apologize to him for all the insults that today has unjustly suffered and to which he always replied in a very different tone.
OK...

First post on the topic can be seen in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26291178&postcount=385. Here, gokhan replied in a fair manner.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26295411&postcount=387 makes the accusation of the source differing from the binary. This is a serious accusation and not one to make lightly.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26297242&postcount=390 calmly responds, asking for justification to points made.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26300203&postcount=392 attacks and states GPL violation.

I'm going to finish with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26300870&postcount=393 before I lose patience, refer to the link there, and note this is a "developer" who didn't know how to initialise a variable.

Having pointed out that dorimanx started this dispute, I believe that can be put to rest.

Please explain how the charge against dorimanx is naive or otherwise incorrect, I would be glad to investigate that in the same level of detail as was done here in ascertaining the veracity of his (now proven false) claims.

You then go on to say he's suffered from public pillory. What about the equal treatment he subjected his victim (gm) to? He chose to take the dispute into a public thread, so it will be resolved here in an objective manner.

XDA is a developer community. It is one where one does not simply make accusations without solid grounding in evidence and facts.
 

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HAHAHA, that all i can say about you, you even have no idea what i do for living?
and you will never know, i am here because one day, i had tired from people like you. and i started my own quest for good stable kernel.

who are you anyway? what are you do for living?

you are nothing. compare to what i do.

I am here for trying to make a difference, and not for money,
all you just wrote tells that you are stupid little man, that have to be jailed before you kill some one on the street, i hope it's will not be to late to do it.
What exactly you do for living?! And what does that have to do with the subject in place.. Dorimanx you are really pathetic as you started all of this by wrongfully accusing other developer like Gokhan who truly spends endless hours of developing and innovating for people he does not know and a simple thank you is just what gives him the motivation and momentum to go on..

Linux Open source code and licensing although it abides developers to share their source code and hard work with others to use like you, but that does not deprive them from a simple thank u and to be grateful to them for using their hard work..

But it seems that u took that for granted and that such great developers have to be under your command at any point of time you need help because u don't know how to do it. Also to be rude enough to flame and accuse if u just didn't get what u want from ur point of view..

Please stop making from your self an idiot by posting more crap... :mad::thumbdown:

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pulser_g2

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why did you ignored the part that dual boot not working if no siyah stated in kernel name?

Because that's not of consequence here. What is of consequence is an accusation about breach of GPL with regard to the BLN code. Gokhan's own work is not covered by that.

O and about gokhan recovery! where is the source for it? i dont see it! he has some old recovery dumped in his git, but he update his recovery every copple of days! so where is it?

Recovery is apache licenced - please take the time to familiarise yourself with it. The only part of recovery that is "GPL" is the kernel. The kernel is open sourced fully, and I have confirmed it compiles correctly, with working output, as the binary does.

again using things that he didnt published.

which is within his right as recovery is apache licenced

the BLN code tested on AOKP rom not on CM9, this is the difference.
why you ignore that too?

You chose to ignore the facts I pointed out about accusations. If you want this addressed in particular, I suggest you start looking through the sources (look at the BLN commits), and see where it isn't working. If it works fine on CM9, then I suggest you look towards AOKP for the issue.

If you want to carry out a scientific test, you should do so in a manner which others can repeat. In this case, I have done so and demonstrated the kernel is functional as described. If your ROM is not working with that, that's not something the GPL is here to help you with. The sources are up-to-date and accurate.
 

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i am doing the same as him, nothing is needed, and thanks is all that i was happy to get, if people donated, well it's was nice, and just make me try harder,

i have asked for help, got only flame back, so what i need to shut up and go on..

why i wrote about what i do for living? well after i been accused for been out of work and trying to make money here , see the mona liza post , funny part,

i am system and security engineer with 9 international certificates for security and linux graduation, i know what i do, and i do it for me, and sharing with others,

i don't feel that someone own me something, all i want is to make a difference, but i see that here, i have or be quiet or leave, there is no other choose, XDA exist just because people are here trying to do there best for others, this is what i done till tonight.

it's a shame that new starting dev are treated as junk, and no help given.
just every one to him self.

in HD2 forums, i have worked allot, and make good things for people, i have 2mil view of my thread, and why? i have given all i have to support people and let them enjoy there phones, not always all was perfect, but all was fixed and supported,

i came to here to do the same, but i see that i am not welcome, it's not what i have expected from xda member and developers and moderators.
You neglected to mention the part where you flamed him and accused him of breaking his code on git so that it didn't work.

I have no certificates in developing linux or security, I know what I do, yet it appears that there are some fundamentals needing reviewed here.

Would you behave like this on the kernel.org mailing list? Would you email one of the contributors and accuse him of doing something within his GPL'd code (which is on git by definition) to stop BLN working?

XDA is a developer community. This is where facts speak louder than words. Present facts rather than words. Don't accuse someone of "doing something to stop it working". If you think there is something, git pull, then grep the commit logs for bln, and start looking through the commits. That's what open source is about! Then come here and say

"this line saying:

if (!isCalledSiyah) { disableBLN(); };

is causing issues, would you care to remove it"

Rather than come and shout that he's doing it, then be unable to provide any kind of evidence. I provided a kernel, and instructions to build it (as I did) to disprove the claims you made. You were unable to even provide a single line of code to suggest that BLN was somehow being disabled due to the kernel name.

It's facts and evidence that developers work around. One of the first things you learn as a developer is to not trust something unless you can justify it, and prove it. Justifying it means to explain how it works in this context, and proving it means a repeatable test which shows the issue. You claimed BLN was being prevented from working on a kernel not called "siyah". I have disproven that, provided the files needed to, and the build instructions to repeat it.
 

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i see your point and agree with that.

i don't see any thing that prove that code is not working,
I redrew my accusation and apologies for it, i have tested on CM9 and it's working as should with my kernel.

i will try to understand how to fix it for aokp rom, it's not working here, in any way.

i am asking to clean my tread from all that posts including that mad guy posts, it's really strange that he is allowed to post all that he posted..

i will restore my work after rethinking my way of work.

i dont really care if i am recognized or not, people like what they get, and i am using it too, nothing else.

if any one want to stay with me, he is welcome.

thanks.
This is a good starting point Dorimanx. Admitting the truth is a virtue as they say and one has to be honest to himself as well as to others and be courageous enough to admit his fault and apologize.

Pulser has proven in a scientific, systematic and professional way that u were wrong about accusing Gokhan that he is intentionally hiding part of his source code and that needs a simple apology and keep going on as far as some people do appreciate what u r doing.

Showing a sense of appreciation to others for using their source code is required as well as far as a someone like Gokhan was never reluctant to help users and developers all the time doing his best to make us all enjoy our state of the art handsets .

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Dorimanx ! Please Help Me !!
uploaded kernel 2.5, please see if it's resolved, also now it's possible to use it as odin tar, all modules are back to kernel image.

added more voltage to be gained when charging.

700mv on charger 650 on misc (car charger) and 500 on usb.

Also charging in power off state is working again.


thanks.
 
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LNJ

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Still getting the encryption error. I'm on Sensation 3.4 which is Samsung based.

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