[KERNEL][CM13-Kumajaya] Xceed [Libra]

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@kairi_zeroblade maybe i got misunderstood, was not asking for ETA or anything ... just expressing my gratitude for the effort. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If you will build the kernel for the MIUI it will be great, if not... will be ok anyway.:good::eek:
Nobody meant anything bad. And that's rude amd arrogant of the OP to respond like that! We just can't hide the fact that we are hyped for the possibility of a custom miui compatible kernel. If we don't get it it's still ok. But don't attack everyone on sight. It's not nice.
 
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No offence, I think Im going to leave this here ... a well written what dev thought, posted by An XDA retired Senior Developer @kyphur

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45

I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.

As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.

Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.

When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.

Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.

The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.

As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.

Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.

XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.

Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.

You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
Sorry for the off topics ... kindly stay on track guys ... carry on :good:
 

kairi_zeroblade

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@kairi_zeroblade maybe i got misunderstood, was not asking for ETA or anything ... just expressing my gratitude for the effort. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If you will build the kernel for the MIUI it will be great, if not... will be ok anyway.:good::eek:
You were not misunderstood..as of now I have alot of projects pending plus my year-end office report..since alot of you here have free time to spend on doing their own kernel..then why don't they do it..as far as I can see things, this is my project and I'll do it my way..( you need to understand that ) meaning, I'll do it on my own free time, my own timeline and at my own way of coding..if you are hyped on something then keep it to yourself OR if you have the will to start it on your own then you'd be better off without me and start your own project..

Nobody meant anything bad. And that's rude amd arrogant of the OP to respond like that! We just can't hide the fact that we are hyped for the possibility of a custom miui compatible kernel. If we don't get it it's still ok. But don't attack everyone on sight. It's not nice.
its not rude, we are on XDA, its a rule here to never ask for ETA's or the likes..

For those who are brave enough to test something, I'm posting a test build we are currently evaluating..I'd love you to have a preview on this..and would really appreciate your feedback.. :good: this test build is stable and is good enough for daily use..I don't usually break stuff or release stuff without my own prior test..
 

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For those who are brave enough to test something, I'm posting a test build we are currently evaluating..I'd love you to have a preview on this..and would really appreciate your feedback.. :good: this test build is stable and is good enough for daily use..I don't usually break stuff or release stuff without my own prior test..
Correct me if I'm wrong but this test kernel is for MIUI right? What MIUI version should I be testing it on? Tried to flash it on china dev rom 6.12.15 (Xiaomi eu) and was stuck in bootloop.


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Freeze and blinking for games that i played

Overal smooth, dont really have a big problem with connection or another feature so far.
But, whenever i play some games (ex' clash royal, 7knight, and chainchronicle), sometimes it freeze and i should force **** it down. And it often make the lcd freeze but the game are still running, it solve just by pressing vol key.

Thanks, good work!!
 

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I flashed the kernel for cyanogen 13 but its not perfect: cannot uninstall apps (reboots), camera wont launch, wifi inactive at all. Stock kernel had problem with charging, actually not charging at all. Looking for some replacement kernel, ideally zip to be flashed via twrp.

Cheers,
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Cool work OP, finally a custom Kernel for this device =).

I didn't test it right now, but i think with 83k Antutu it would heat like a oven after a while.
This soc is extremly vulnerable for overheat.
So probably it's the wrong way to go for hard performance, because after a while of gaming it have to throttle back anyway and that cause bad laggs and make the device useless for gamers or other hard user.
Maybe better focus a stable performance withouth overheat on this device (and other devices with snap 808 and 810).

I don't understand anyway why everyone is that horny for higher antutu values. If you have 60k or 70k antutu won´t make as much difference... Just because of this people who crying about low antutu values devs are lead on a wrong way.

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Ok well normal user wich don´t play games or other hard stuff would have adventage of high performance (because don't suffer on overheat), but im hopefully not the onliest one wich does more with his phone then facebook, browsing, whats app.. crap.
 
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Cool work OP, finally a custom Kernel for this device =).

I didn't test it right now, but i think with 83k Antutu it would heat like a oven after a while.
This soc is extremly vulnerable for overheat.
So probably it's the wrong way to go for hard performance, because after a while of gaming it have to throttle back anyway and that cause bad laggs and make the device useless for gamers or other hard user.
Maybe better focus a stable performance withouth overheat on this device (and other devices with snap 808 and 810).

I don't understand anyway why everyone is that horny for higher antutu values. If you have 60k or 70k antutu won´t make as much difference... Just because of this people who crying about low antutu values devs are lead on a wrong way.

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Ok well normal user wich don´t play games or other hard stuff would have adventage of high performance (because don't suffer on overheat), but im hopefully not the onliest one wich does more with his phone then facebook, browsing, whats app.. crap.
have you tried the kernel with the suggested rom ?

the purposes of cpu are to compute as effective and as efficiently as it can get, benchmark is one of the tools to show that.

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Might be I miss something .. I do too dont understand why people buy I fast phone but wanted it to be slower than its specs, if you do a hard stuff in a long run, well a phone imho was not designed to be like that ... just use a netbook or laptop .. If os is the limitations with some knowledge you can even boot up a complete android os on it, not even on emulation here is the link of such discussion http://forum.xda-developers.com/lineage/general/unofficial-linage-os-pc-based-android-t3531145/page1

sorry for the off topic
 
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no i didn´t tried as i told, but im 100% sure it won´t run cool on such high values, just try it, play some hard 3d games for a while or make a few benchmark tests and you will see what i mean.

"effective and as efficiently" thats exectly the point, efficiently...
Is it efficiently that you can´t hold your phone anymore ?
Is it efficiently that my old phone with half hardware can run same games lagfree when the mi4c throttles and you can´t even enjoy a 2d game anymore ?
Is it efficiently that the battery burns down twice as fast ?
Im not sure about your definition of efficiently, maybe tell me what you mean.

Every cpu can be tuned up. But what is the limit ? Yes, the heat. Why do you think then is this cpu suitable for tune ups and other not. I would say the contrary.
If the OP is able to increase the performance on same heat or even less heat then the OP is a truly hero.

"I do too dont understand why people buy I fast phone but wanted it to be slower than its specs"
I never said that i like to have slower phones as possible. I like it to to have very fast devices, but if the limit is reached then is the limit reached.

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Well i will stop now, im sorry for my input was provocatively.
 
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