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Lawlrus

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I might try this with the crdriod pie rom, but i'm a bit hesitant going to pie cause of battery life.


You should be more worried about random reboots on pie with a custom kernel than battery life, if you do any reading at all in pie threads you would see its still currently unstable custom kernel wise.

If you want the best battery life for this device stay on 8.1. Future versions of android on this device will NEVER be as good, or have better battery life than the OS versions that were actually optimized for the device by google


That's how outdated devices go.
 
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Yeah I guess you're right. I'm still not sure how people have 7 or 8 hours of sot, i cant get even close to that no mater the rom or the settings. I guess they won the lottery on the battery side. And this last rom I tried had the best battery life on the first day, then went a bit down hill. And there I thought I hit the jackpot lol.

Also to the point, stock 8.1 should give some decent battery life since it should be optimized, but it's draining battery almost as much as pie dies on my device, so their optimization isn't god know what ( at least on my device ).
 
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Yeah I guess you're right. I'm still not sure how people have 7 or 8 hours of sot, i cant get even close to that no mater the rom or the settings. I guess they won the lottery on the battery side. And this last rom I tried had the best battery life on the first day, then went a bit down hill. And there I thought I hit the jackpot lol.

Also to the point, stock 8.1 should give some decent battery life since it should be optimized, but it's draining battery almost as much as pie dies on my device, so their optimization isn't god know what ( at least on my device ).

Because you're probably not looking at the right place.

What exactly on 8.1 is draining your battery? You can't just say its the ROM or settings, that's not how **** works. And chalking it up to its not optimized right " for my device" is a cop out and a lazy way of passing the buck. Android source is android source, aside from hardware issues, EVERY device would be having the same issue if source optimizations were the cause.

There's no magic kernel, or ROM, or settings that work for everyone that give godly battery consumption. Battery consumption is situational to everyone's habits for the most part, sure kernels can offer some help with letting it sleep more, or utilizing the cores and frequency's more intelligently/optimizing its functionality, but you're not going to go from 3 hours sot to 6 just because you install a kernel or flash some magical zip file that runs optimizations.

I have no problems getting over 5 hours sot before getting lower than 50% battery, and 9.0 battery life is not that much more terrible for me than what 8.1 is system wise. I will say that a lot of apps I use on 9.0 are fked compared to 8.1 with not letting my device sleep etc.

But, I don't game, because computers were made for that, I don't use garbage battery destroying apps like Facebook or WhatsApp among others.

I've stated this to people on this forums for years until I'm blue in the face that people need to use applications to see what exactly is draining their battery, and try to make adjustments based off of that. More times than not, people need to make changes to themselves, not changes to their device.

Edit: and I will agree that this device does not use the best internals, which shouldn't be surprising because this is what happens when you let a Chinese mfg source hardware.

But my device was bought new something like three years ago, and I've never had any issues with my battery, I'm not saying they didn't use **** battery's at some point, but id love to see some solid statistics on how people that did have to replace them treat their phone versus people that treat them better and had to replace them.
 
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I don't know how to determine what is draining my battery even on stock android. I am, at least i think, a lightweight user. Facebook, messenger, instagram, book reader, a little bit of youtube and that's it.
80% of my battery use is mostly messenger for chatting with my gf, and the rest is above mentioned. No games or anything else, some aliexpress browsing when i need stuff and thats it.

Elemtal x kernel with some of the popular profiles, six core mod, and all possible settings that can be turned off to preserve battery, i turn em off. Adaptive brightness, nfc, printing, assistant, location etc.
It's either my device, or the battery i recently changed does not hold the charge that well. I don't know give ma tip what to do, what apps to use to check for the drain. I'm out of the options.

It appears tho that i've found the combo to have the battery last the way i would expect form this device. Stock 8.1, xposed with amplify, doze for gps, excalibur cpu profile with interactive guvernor, not using six core mod, and ofc turning all of the things above. Had 99% at 12pm, 12 hours later at 31% and pretty much using the phone almost all day. The differernce is tho that i've moved to facebook and messenger light apps.
 
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Try gsam or maybe even accubatery off the play store, give it permissions to monitor apps if you have to.

Gsam always worked out pretty well for me, I just started looking at accubattery so I'm not sure how well it does.

Biggest thing is checking to see what apps if any are keeping your device from entering deep sleep, and creating wake locks

Edit: forgot the name of it because I haven't had to monitor this **** for a long time, but better battery stats was always my go to. Think you can just search via google and get the apk off of XDA.
 
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Try gsam or maybe even accubatery off the play store, give it permissions to monitor apps if you have to.

Gsam always worked out pretty well for me, I just started looking at accubattery so I'm not sure how well it does.

Biggest thing is checking to see what apps if any are keeping your device from entering deep sleep, and creating wake locks

Edit: forgot the name of it because I haven't had to monitor this **** for a long time, but better battery stats was always my go to. Think you can just search via google and get the apk off of XDA.

There isn't any need for that. My biggest culprits i guess were gps and i've dozed that, and the facebook and messenger and i'm using light versions of those. So if the battery usage stays like this i did it. I have the accubattery pro but i dont use it anymore. It didnt really tell me anything new. Facebook and Instagram were draining the battery the most. I've used it mainly for checking the health of the battery. I still recommend using amplify and doze for gps, i think u will get the best results from that. As soon as there is any official xposed for pie, i'm moving since i really like pie a lot more than oreo. We can move to dm if necessary so we dont spam the topic.
 
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There isn't any need for that. My biggest culprits i guess were gps and i've dozed that, and the facebook and messenger and i'm using light versions of those. So if the battery usage stays like this i did it. I have the accubattery pro but i dont use it anymore. It didnt really tell me anything new. Facebook and Instagram were draining the battery the most. I've used it mainly for checking the health of the battery. I still recommend using amplify and doze for gps, i think u will get the best results from that. As soon as there is any official xposed for pie, i'm moving since i really like pie a lot more than oreo. We can move to dm if necessary so we dont spam the topic.

Definitely Can't hurt in my opinion, that's for sure.

I hear you with Facebook. Rather than using the lite version, I stopped using it all together a few years back. Lol It's an awfully optimized application, not to mention so much of its substance is useless garbage lol But yeah if you use it to speak with family and friends, I understand you have to use it.

And then w/ Accubattery, a little while back everyone was talking about this And they basically put their trust in it. But more and more I'd see that what Accubattery was reporting, mainly regarding the health of some ones battery, simply wasn't Accurate. Many times it would say a battery is fine when it absolutely wasn't and needed replaced. And Vice versa. So I stopped trusting/using the app. Maybe others have also caught on because I haven't heard nearly as much as I did about it like a year ago.

Later Mate
 

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You should be more worried about random reboots on pie with a custom kernel than battery life, if you do any reading at all in pie threads you would see its still currently unstable custom kernel wise.

If you want the best battery life for this device stay on 8.1. Future versions of android on this device will NEVER be as good, or have better battery life than the OS versions that were actually optimized for the device by google


That's how outdated devices go.
My wife's Galaxy s5 got los 15 and battery life was excellent. Better than stock marshmallow. And my note 2 was the same thing much better battery life. But other devices I have had did lose battery life due to custom updates. So I guess it depends.
 

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My wife's Galaxy s5 got los 15 and battery life was excellent. Better than stock marshmallow. And my note 2 was the same thing much better battery life. But other devices I have had did lose battery life due to custom updates. So I guess it depends.

You're talking about going from some company's bloated ass version of android to a custom pure aosp? I mean that makes perfect sense, and shows why in stopped supporting such devices after my lg g2.

But if you're talking about pure aosp, to pure asop, then more tikes than not, you will start getting reduced performance in an outdated device.

I've been in the custom android scene since the OG droid RAZR battle tank that was a six lb piece of steel lol. Sometimes there's non difference, sometimes its better, but the vast majority of the time its bad. People want their devices tonplay full feature vidya games now, that wasn't the case three years ago.
 

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    Source Code: https://github.com/UBERROMS

    ROM OS Version: 6.0.x Marshmallow
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    Packet Schedulers/Congestion Avoidance Algorithms:

    CDG vs. Cubic vs. Westwood:

    CDG
    CAIA-Delay Gradient (CDG) is a hybrid congestion control algorithm which reacts to both packet loss and inferred queuing delay. It attempts to operate as a delay-based algorithm where possible, but utilises heuristics to detect loss-based TCP cross traffic and will compete effectively as required. CDG is therefore incrementally deployable and suitable for use on shared networks. During delay-based operation, CDG uses a delay-gradient based probabilistic backoff mechanism, and will also try to infer non congestion related packet losses and avoid backing off when they occur. During loss-based operation, CDG essentially reverts to reno-like behaviour. CDG switches to loss-based operation when it detects that a configurable number of consecutive delay-based backoffs have had no measurable effect. It periodically attempts to return to delay-based operation, but will keep switching back to loss-based operation as required.

    Cubic
    CUBIC is an enhanced version of BIC: it simplifies the BIC window control and improves its TCP-friendliness and RTT-fairness. The window growth function of CUBIC is governed by a cubic function in terms of the elapsed time since the last loss event. Our experience indicates that the cubic function provides a good stability and scalability. Furthermore, the real-time nature of the protocol keeps the window growth rate independent of RTT, which keeps the protocol TCP friendly under both short and long RTT paths.

    Westwood
    TCP Westwood estimates the available bandwidth by counting and filtering the flow of returning ACKs and adaptively sets the cwnd and the sshtresh after congestion by taking into account the estimated bandwidth.TCP Westwood, is a sender-side-only modification to TCP New Reno that is intended to better handle large bandwidth-delay product paths (large pipes), with potential packet loss due to transmission or other errors (leaky pipes) and with dynamic load (dynamic pipes). TCP Westwood+ is an evolution of TCP Westwood, in fact it was soon discovered that the Westwood bandwidth estimation algorithm did not work well in the presence of reverse traffic due to ACK compression. Westwood+ is friendly towards TCP Reno and fairer than Reno in bandwidth allocation.

    Packet Schedulers:

    Why use a non default packet scheduler?
    Packet schedulers are a portion of the kernel that queues network data on a specific interface and governs how they are transmitted and received including buffers. Below I will breakdown a couple of the packet schedulers included in this kernel.

    fq_codel
    FQ_Codel (Fair Queuing Controlled Delay) is queuing discipline that combines Fair Queuing with the CoDel AQM scheme. FQ_Codel uses a stochastic model to classify incoming packets into different flows and is used to provide a fair share of the bandwidth to all the flows using the queue. Each such flow is managed by the CoDel queuing discipline. Reordering within a flow is avoided since Codel internally uses a FIFO queue.

    pfifo_fast
    The FIFO algorithm forms the basis for the default qdisc on all Linux network interfaces (pfifo_fast). It performs no shaping or rearranging of packets. It simply transmits packets as soon as it can after receiving and queuing them. This is also the qdisc used inside all newly created classes until another qdisc or a class replaces the FIFO.

    A real FIFO qdisc must, however, have a size limit (a buffer size) to prevent it from overflowing in case it is unable to dequeue packets as quickly as it receives them. Linux implements two basic FIFO qdiscs, one based on bytes, and one on packets. Regardless of the type of FIFO used, the size of the queue is defined by the parameter limit. For a pfifo the unit is understood to be packets and for a bfifo the unit is understood to be bytes.

    pie
    PIE is designed to control delay effectively. First, an average dequeue rate is estimated based on the standing queue. The rate is used to calculate the current delay. Then, on a periodic basis, the delay is used to calculate the dropping probabilty. Finally, on arrival, a packet is dropped (or marked) based on this probability. PIE makes adjustments to the probability based on the trend of the delay i.e. whether it is going up or down.The delay converges quickly to the target value specified. alpha and beta are statically chosen parameters chosen to control the drop probability growth and are determined through control theoretic approaches. alpha determines how the deviation between the current and target latency changes probability. beta exerts additional adjustments depending on the latency trend. The drop probabilty is used to mark packets in ecn mode. However, as in RED, beyond 10% packets are dropped based on this probability. The bytemode is used to drop packets proportional to the packet size.

    fq
    A packet scheduler is charged with organizing the flow of packets through the network stack to meet a set of policy objectives. The kernel has quite a few of them, including CBQ for fancy class-based routing, CHOKe for routers, and a couple of variants on the CoDel queue management algorithm. FQ joins this list as a relatively simple scheduler designed to implement fair access across large numbers of flows with local endpoints while keeping buffer sizes down; it also happens to implement TCP pacing.

    FQ keeps track of every flow it sees passing through the system. To do so, it calculates an eight-bit hash based on the socket associated with the flow, then uses the result as an index into an array of red-black trees. The data structure is designed, according to Eric, to scale well up to millions of concurrent flows. A number of parameters are associated with each flow, including its current transmission quota and, optionally, the time at which the next packet can be transmitted.

    That transmission time is used to implement the TCP pacing support. If a given socket has a pace specified for it, FQ will calculate how far the packets should be spaced in time to conform to that pace. If a flow's next transmission time is in the future, that flow is added to another red-black tree with the transmission time used as the key; that tree, thus, allows the kernel to track delayed flows and quickly find the one whose next packet is due to go out the soonest. A single timer is then used, if needed, to ensure that said packet is transmitted at the right time.

    The scheduler maintains two linked lists of active flows, the "new" and "old" lists. When a flow is first encountered, it is placed on the new list. The packet dispatcher services flows on the new list first; once a flow uses up its quota, that flow is moved to the old list. The idea here appears to be to give preferential treatment to new, short-lived connections — a DNS lookup or HTTP "GET" command, for example — and not let those connections be buried underneath larger, longer-lasting flows. Eventually the scheduler works its way through all active flows, sending a quota of data from each; then the process starts over.

    There are a number of additional details, of course. There are limits on the amount of data queued for each flow, as well as a limit on the amount of data buffered within the scheduler as a whole; any packet that would exceed one of those limits is dropped. A special "internal" queue exists for high-priority traffic, allowing it to reach the wire more quickly. And so on.

    One other detail is garbage collection. One problem with this kind of flow tracking is that nothing tells the scheduler when a particular flow is shut down; indeed, nothing can tell the scheduler for flows without local endpoints or for non-connection-oriented protocols. So the scheduler must figure out on its own when it can stop tracking any given flow. One way to do that would be to drop the flow as soon as there are no packets associated with it, but that would cause some thrashing as the queues empty and refill; it is better to keep flow data around for a little while in anticipation of more traffic. FQ handles this by putting idle flows into a special "detached" state, off the lists of active flows. Whenever a new flow is added, a pass is made over the associated red-black tree to clean out flows that have been detached for a sufficiently long time — three seconds in the current patch.

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    The CAKE Principle:
    (or, how to have your cake and eat it too)

    This is a combination of several shaping, AQM and FQ
    techniques into one easy-to-use package:

    - An overall bandwidth shaper, to move the bottleneck away
    from dumb CPE equipment and bloated MACs. This operates
    in deficit mode (as in sch_fq), eliminating the need for
    any sort of burst parameter (eg. token buxket depth).
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    scheduling latency.

    - A Diffserv-aware priority queue, giving more priority to
    certain classes, up to a specified fraction of bandwidth.
    Above that bandwidth threshold, the priority is reduced to
    avoid starving other classes.

    - Each priority class has a separate Flow Queue system, to
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    burst on one flow from increasing the delay to another.
    Flows are distributed to queues using a set-associative
    hash function.

    - Each queue is actively managed by Codel. This serves
    flows fairly, and signals congestion early via ECN
    (if available) and/or packet drops, to keep latency low.
    The codel parameters are auto-tuned based on the bandwidth
    setting, as is necessary at low bandwidths.

    The configuration parameters are kept deliberately simple
    for ease of use. Everything has sane defaults. Complete
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    The priority queue operates according to a weighted DRR
    scheme, combined with a bandwidth tracker which reuses the
    shaper logic to detect which side of the bandwidth sharing
    threshold the class is operating. This determines whether
    a priority-based weight (high) or a bandwidth-based weight
    (low) is used for that class in the current pass.

    This qdisc incorporates much of Eric Dumazet's fq_codel code,
    customised for use as an integrated subordinate.


    How to apply a packet scheduler:

    1. Open terminal on your device
    2. Use the "su" command to become root
    3. Use tc to change the packet scheduler(qdisc) on your device. I have included an example below, the first line is for WiFi and the second for data. In the example, we are setting the qdisc to fq_pie, which is a mix of PIE with per flow rate shaping from fq.
    Code:
     tc qdisc add dev wlan0 root fq_pie
     tc qdisc add dev rmnet_data0 root fq_pie
    4. Confirm your packet scheduler has been applied by using the tc tool again. I have included an example below.
    Code:
    tc  qdisc

    To use another packet scheduler after applying a previous one, you will need to either reboot or remove the added qdisc from each interface using the command I have included below.
    Code:
    tc qdisc del root dev wlan0
    tc qdisc del root dev rmnet_data0

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