Killing all apps when screen off!!!! ARGHH!

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Monty Burns

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I'm losing my will to live just in the first few hours of using this thing.

OK - so, unless you have a Chinese phone number, you can't log in to My Oppo which means, i'm told, you can't change the launcher and the built in launcher is a real piece of human solid waste.

Anyway, on to the subject...

No matter what setting i select, it kills off tasks like Gmail, WhatsApp, Timely etc. when the screen turns off and doesn't restart them until i OPEN the app again! I mean, seriously1?!?!?!111ELEVENTY!?! WTF!?

I've done the following:
  1. Turned off Smart Power Saver (ALL OF IT)
  2. Just to be sure, turned off Smart Power Saver for individual apps
  3. Used the old trick of turning Data Saver ON
  4. For EACH app turned ON "Allow Auto Startup" and "Allow Auto Startup of Other Apps"
  5. For EACH app, entered Power Saver, selected "Allow Background Running"

This is a COMPLETE show stopper and I can't fathom how a phone, that's built to receive messages when turned off, will NOT receive messages!

If anyone has ANY ideas, i could possibly fall in love with them!
 

varun.gid

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Jun 18, 2008
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I'm losing my will to live just in the first few hours of using this thing.

OK - so, unless you have a Chinese phone number, you can't log in to My Oppo which means, i'm told, you can't change the launcher and the built in launcher is a real piece of human solid waste.

Anyway, on to the subject...

No matter what setting i select, it kills off tasks like Gmail, WhatsApp, Timely etc. when the screen turns off and doesn't restart them until i OPEN the app again! I mean, seriously1?!?!?!111ELEVENTY!?! WTF!?

I've done the following:
  1. Turned off Smart Power Saver (ALL OF IT)
  2. Just to be sure, turned off Smart Power Saver for individual apps
  3. Used the old trick of turning Data Saver ON
  4. For EACH app turned ON "Allow Auto Startup" and "Allow Auto Startup of Other Apps"
  5. For EACH app, entered Power Saver, selected "Allow Background Running"

This is a COMPLETE show stopper and I can't fathom how a phone, that's built to receive messages when turned off, will NOT receive messages!

If anyone has ANY ideas, i could possibly fall in love with them!

so whatsapp gmail etc go in recents n lock it by swiping down. once locked it wont kill the app and u will get notifications :)
 

varun.gid

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Jun 18, 2008
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surprising for me locking the app, giving it auto start permission and going in app settings and giving it the option to always run in background, works fine.
 

KOLIOSIS

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I'm losing my will to live just in the first few hours of using this thing.

OK - so, unless you have a Chinese phone number, you can't log in to My Oppo which means, i'm told, you can't change the launcher and the built in launcher is a real piece of human solid waste.

Anyway, on to the subject...

No matter what setting i select, it kills off tasks like Gmail, WhatsApp, Timely etc. when the screen turns off and doesn't restart them until i OPEN the app again! I mean, seriously1?!?!?!111ELEVENTY!?! WTF!?

I've done the following:
  1. Turned off Smart Power Saver (ALL OF IT)
  2. Just to be sure, turned off Smart Power Saver for individual apps
  3. Used the old trick of turning Data Saver ON
  4. For EACH app turned ON "Allow Auto Startup" and "Allow Auto Startup of Other Apps"
  5. For EACH app, entered Power Saver, selected "Allow Background Running"

This is a COMPLETE show stopper and I can't fathom how a phone, that's built to receive messages when turned off, will NOT receive messages!

If anyone has ANY ideas, i could possibly fall in love with them!

As for the launcher weirdness & other de-bloating,check here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/find-X/how-to/guide-adb-oppo-x-apps-safe-to-uninstall-t3818165

As for G-Mail working properly:
Go to the G-Mail app settings & ensure the following:
1) Power Saver: Allow Background Running
2) Manage Notifications: Allow EVERYTHING,then,if needed,close those toggles that might not apply to your usage.
3) Check permissions & allow as you see fit.
4) Allow Auto Startup

In RECENTS,pull down on the G-Mail app to lock-in

In PHONE/SYSTEM SETTINGS:
Notifications & Status Bar > Manage Notifications > GMail App & verify the same as accomplished in the GMail app settings.
Further down the screen,verify all of your GMail account(s) are present & showing the type of notifications you want.

In PHONE/SYSTEM SETTINGS:
Go to SECURITY > PERMISSIONS & verify all desired permissions are granted,by both headers PERMISSIONS & APPS.

In PHONE/SYSTEM SETTINGS:
Go to BATTERY:
Ensure Power Saver is OFF
Ensure Smart Power Saver is OFF
Custom Power Saver: Go to GMail > ensure Allow Background Running is enabled (A LOT OF REPEAT/REDUNDACNY,AIN'T COLOR OS GREAT,LOL) :rolleyes:
App Quick Freeze:Go to GMail & toggle it OFF (This is likely the culprit,I missed it myself on initial set-up).

Hope this helps............... :good:
 
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Monty Burns

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As for the launcher weirdness & other de-bloating,check here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/find-X/how-to/guide-adb-oppo-x-apps-safe-to-uninstall-t3818165

As for G-Mail working properly:
Go to the G-Mail app settings & ensure the following:
1) Power Saver: Allow Background Running
2) Manage Notifications: Allow EVERYTHING,then,if needed,close those toggles that might not apply to your usage.
3) Check permissions & allow as you see fit.
4) Allow Auto Startup

In RECENTS,pull down on the G-Mail app to lock-in

In PHONE/SYSTEM SETTINGS:
Notifications & Status Bar > Manage Notifications > GMail App & verify the same as accomplished in the GMail app settings.
Further down the screen,verify all of your GMail account(s) are present & showing the type of notifications you want.

In PHONE/SYSTEM SETTINGS:
Go to SECURITY > PERMISSIONS & verify all desired permissions are granted,by both headers PERMISSIONS & APPS.

In PHONE/SYSTEM SETTINGS:
Go to BATTERY:
Ensure Power Saver is OFF
Ensure Smart Power Saver is OFF
Custom Power Saver: Go to GMail > ensure Allow Background Running is enabled (A LOT OF REPEAT/REDUNDACNY,AIN'T COLOR OS GREAT,LOL) :rolleyes:
App Quick Freeze:Go to GMail & toggle it OFF (This is likely the culprit,I missed it myself on initial set-up).

Hope this helps............... :good:

Hi!

Thank you for taking the time to detail the reply, very much appreciated.

For the launcher, i'm at work now but will certainly try that when I get home and I really hope it works. Already have Nova installed so, ready to rock.

Re the incredibly aggressive power saving:

I did ALL of those settings yesterday, including the lock of active apps but, it made no difference. Now, what has me REALLY confused is that I woke up this morning and WhatsApp is now running constantly! When I went to sleep it was NOT working!! I mean, WTF!?

I've now locked a few more apps (Messenger etc.) to see if they mysteriously change to constant running. So far, they are not but, maybe there is some system process that's run on a period that changes that? Very, very strange.

I'll update that Bloatware thread with my experience later today with thanks/comments.

Again, thank you and have a cracker!
 

wolfgart

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any way to register Oppo Cloud account without have chinese mobile number ?

It' s a problem because all the times i try to install something like for example Blackberry Manager, it request to log-on to Oppo Account to "installation verification"

Please help
 

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any way to register Oppo Cloud account without have chinese mobile number ?

It' s a problem because all the times i try to install something like for example Blackberry Manager, it request to log-on to Oppo Account to "installation verification"

Please help

Install it by using the factory file manager
 
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Monty Burns

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any way to register Oppo Cloud account without have chinese mobile number ?

It' s a problem because all the times i try to install something like for example Blackberry Manager, it request to log-on to Oppo Account to "installation verification"

Please help

If all you want to do is remove/change system apps without having to register, use the procedure KOLIOSIS posted above, works PERFECTLY.
 
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Nope. The phone is STILL killing apps. Now it's decided in the last 30 minutes that no matter what I do, Android Wear will not be allowed to run!

I'm so f*#cking sick of this phone. Fantastic hardware f##ked but incredibly aggressive power management. Hate it.
 
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KOLIOSIS

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Nope. The phone is STILL killing apps. Now it's decided in the last 30 minutes that no matter what I do, Android Wear will not be allowed to run!

I'm so f*#cking sick of this phone. Fantastic hardware f##ked but incredibly aggressive power management. Hate it.

Similar issues here with my Samsung Gear S2,strange thing about it is just yesterday,I was apparently having a typical pairing/usage,getting all of my notifications to show up on it.
Now,a day later,the only connection available is for phone calls,the one thing I do not use my watch for,SMMFH....
The one difference is after I paired & set-up my watch,later that evening,I paired my Jabra Elite Active 65t buds,the connection is solid.
Gonna unpair the earbuds,reboot the phone,re-pair the watch & see what happens.
If this remains FUBAR,it is likely the straw that's breaking the camel's back,this & the limit of 5 user apps to have auto-start on boot,WTF...............................
 
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I know, right? Five auto-start apps?? Ffs! Give me a warning and then let me overide and do what I want!

Gmail?? It's syncing but will NOT stay on "Push" and keeps dropping back to 15 minute syncing.

Android Wear loses connection, I go in to the app and it asks me if I want to "stay connected?". It reconnects then 20 minutes later the same **** happens again.

Oppo, this is MY phone. If I wanted BS restrictions I'd have bought an iPhone.
 
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KOLIOSIS

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I know, right? Five auto-start apps?? Ffs! Give me a warning and then let me overide and do what I want!

Gmail?? It's syncing but will NOT stay on "Push" and keeps dropping back to 15 minute syncing.

Android Wear loses connection, I go in to the app and it asks me if I want to "stay connected?". It reconnects then 20 minutes later the same **** happens again.

Oppo, this is MY phone. If I wanted BS restrictions I'd have bought an iPhone.

No luck with the watch being the only BT device paired,I did everything,reboot/checked all the FUBAR Battery/Notification/Permission B.S., + the Gear Manager app & still only the phone profile in BT settings......
I've dealt with some s*** U/I's & bloatware,but,this tops it all,makes an iPhone look appealing...... :eek:
This makes the VIVO NEX FunTouch look like a clean U/I by comparison................. :eek:
 

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As it becomes a more common device, maybe a custom ROM might save it from eBay?

I'm doubting I'll hang in there long enough to find out, less some software updates to fix some of the madness.
The 5 user app limit on auto-start on boot is the biggest PITA, if that wasn't the case, the rest would likely work as it should.
No notifications in the status bar is a close 2nd on the list, tied with the default launcher B. S., all of this nonsense exists to coerce people to use OPPOs ecosystem & the various 3rd party apps they fold into the mix....

I went into this phone & the NEX with my eyes wide open, with the expectation of being laden with what is SOP in China, but, especially with this phone, I can't believe the lengths Oppo goes to for the sake of having you totally enrapt in the system, enough to even make Apple & Tim Cook blush.

Guess they'll go to any lengths to data mine, from the fillings in your teeth to the cavity on your backside......

Sent from my OPPO PAFM00 using XDA Labs
 
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KOLIOSIS

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Agreed with EVERYTHING you said!

Speaking of which, system update just released for me. Check for yourself, maybe you have one waiting? Mind you, not that it means it will help.

11 A.9
Just got it as we were speaking,maybe Oppo is listening in,either here,or,on our phones,LOL.....
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    I'm losing my will to live just in the first few hours of using this thing.

    OK - so, unless you have a Chinese phone number, you can't log in to My Oppo which means, i'm told, you can't change the launcher and the built in launcher is a real piece of human solid waste.

    Anyway, on to the subject...

    No matter what setting i select, it kills off tasks like Gmail, WhatsApp, Timely etc. when the screen turns off and doesn't restart them until i OPEN the app again! I mean, seriously1?!?!?!111ELEVENTY!?! WTF!?

    I've done the following:
    1. Turned off Smart Power Saver (ALL OF IT)
    2. Just to be sure, turned off Smart Power Saver for individual apps
    3. Used the old trick of turning Data Saver ON
    4. For EACH app turned ON "Allow Auto Startup" and "Allow Auto Startup of Other Apps"
    5. For EACH app, entered Power Saver, selected "Allow Background Running"

    This is a COMPLETE show stopper and I can't fathom how a phone, that's built to receive messages when turned off, will NOT receive messages!

    If anyone has ANY ideas, i could possibly fall in love with them!

    As for the launcher weirdness & other de-bloating,check here:
    https://forum.xda-developers.com/find-X/how-to/guide-adb-oppo-x-apps-safe-to-uninstall-t3818165

    As for G-Mail working properly:
    Go to the G-Mail app settings & ensure the following:
    1) Power Saver: Allow Background Running
    2) Manage Notifications: Allow EVERYTHING,then,if needed,close those toggles that might not apply to your usage.
    3) Check permissions & allow as you see fit.
    4) Allow Auto Startup

    In RECENTS,pull down on the G-Mail app to lock-in

    In PHONE/SYSTEM SETTINGS:
    Notifications & Status Bar > Manage Notifications > GMail App & verify the same as accomplished in the GMail app settings.
    Further down the screen,verify all of your GMail account(s) are present & showing the type of notifications you want.

    In PHONE/SYSTEM SETTINGS:
    Go to SECURITY > PERMISSIONS & verify all desired permissions are granted,by both headers PERMISSIONS & APPS.

    In PHONE/SYSTEM SETTINGS:
    Go to BATTERY:
    Ensure Power Saver is OFF
    Ensure Smart Power Saver is OFF
    Custom Power Saver: Go to GMail > ensure Allow Background Running is enabled (A LOT OF REPEAT/REDUNDACNY,AIN'T COLOR OS GREAT,LOL) :rolleyes:
    App Quick Freeze:Go to GMail & toggle it OFF (This is likely the culprit,I missed it myself on initial set-up).

    Hope this helps............... :good:
    1
    any way to register Oppo Cloud account without have chinese mobile number ?

    It' s a problem because all the times i try to install something like for example Blackberry Manager, it request to log-on to Oppo Account to "installation verification"

    Please help

    Install it by using the factory file manager
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    any way to register Oppo Cloud account without have chinese mobile number ?

    It' s a problem because all the times i try to install something like for example Blackberry Manager, it request to log-on to Oppo Account to "installation verification"

    Please help

    If all you want to do is remove/change system apps without having to register, use the procedure KOLIOSIS posted above, works PERFECTLY.
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    Nope. The phone is STILL killing apps. Now it's decided in the last 30 minutes that no matter what I do, Android Wear will not be allowed to run!

    I'm so f*#cking sick of this phone. Fantastic hardware f##ked but incredibly aggressive power management. Hate it.
    1
    Nope. The phone is STILL killing apps. Now it's decided in the last 30 minutes that no matter what I do, Android Wear will not be allowed to run!

    I'm so f*#cking sick of this phone. Fantastic hardware f##ked but incredibly aggressive power management. Hate it.

    Similar issues here with my Samsung Gear S2,strange thing about it is just yesterday,I was apparently having a typical pairing/usage,getting all of my notifications to show up on it.
    Now,a day later,the only connection available is for phone calls,the one thing I do not use my watch for,SMMFH....
    The one difference is after I paired & set-up my watch,later that evening,I paired my Jabra Elite Active 65t buds,the connection is solid.
    Gonna unpair the earbuds,reboot the phone,re-pair the watch & see what happens.
    If this remains FUBAR,it is likely the straw that's breaking the camel's back,this & the limit of 5 user apps to have auto-start on boot,WTF...............................
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