Klyde PX4 | PX5 | PX6 head units with MCU CSN2 | CSN2_D | CSN2_8600_D (Android 8/9/10

[rigattoni]

Here is an Android 10 to android 12 update for Belsee PX5 rk3368
I cannot get it to work on mine. When it gets to patching oem image it fails. I suspect my system does not have oem image or its looking for theirs. I removed the 3 oem patch files then I get a footer error message then update aborted.

Maybe someone with more knowledge about unpacking and repacking this update can get it to work on our system..
IF you do and can provide a link to the moded file.


PX5 RK3368 Belsee Android 10 to 12 download link.

kupdate.zip - Icedrive

This is no MTC* update.
Depending on the naming this update is supposed to be used on CSN2 or CSM4 units.

 

[james73448]

This is no MTC* update.
Depending on the naming this update is supposed to be used on CSN2 or CSM4 units.

So the software is dependent on which ever mcu even though mcu has its on update. Yes I believe I saw that the mcu was csn2.

 

[rigattoni]

So the software is dependent on which ever mcu even though mcu has its on update. Yes I believe I saw that the mcu was csn2.

Yes, I know. It should be CSN2. Nevertheless, this has nothing to do in this forum. Just have a look: this forum is named MTCD Hardware Development.
Reported to mod team to move your thread part into this thread: Klyde PX4 | PX5 | PX6 head units with MCU CSN2 | CSN2_D | CSN2_8600_D (Android 8/9/10

Edit: All units with CSN2 are manufactured by Klyde, just the MCU can be a little different and your seller just re-batched this unit.

 

[james73448]

Yes, I know. It should be CSN2. Nevertheless, this has nothing to do in this forum. Just have a look: this forum is named MTCD Hardware Development.
Reported to mod team to move your thread part into this thread: Klyde PX4 | PX5 | PX6 head units with MCU CSN2 | CSN2_D | CSN2_8600_D (Android 8/9/10

Edit: All units with CSN2 are manufactured by Klyde, just the MCU can be a little different and your seller just re-batched this unit.

Did you not read my post about having it moded to to fit the MTCD and the error about patch oem image failed. If it can be modded it would work on MTCD then we could update our mtcd to android 12.
I don't have csn2 unit so if it has to be moved they can go ahead and delete it but I understand what your saying.

 

[rigattoni]

Did you not read my post about having it moded to to fit the MTCD and the error about patch oem image failed. If it can be modded it would work on MTCD then we could update our mtcd to android 12.
I don't have csn2 unit so if it has to be moved they can go ahead and delete it but I understand what your saying.

It can´t be modded from CSN2 to MTCD. These are complete different base units.
I can read and I also have read your posting.
Why should this posting be deleted... Just sent to the right thread to may be inform other CSN2 user with a PX5 that there is something available to get their units upgraded to A12.

 

[james73448]

It can´t be modded from CSN2 to MTCD. These are complete different base units.
I can read and I also have read your posting.
Why should this posting be deleted... Just sent to the right thread to may be inform other CSN2 user with a PX5 that there is something available to get their units upgraded to A12.

Good point I didn't think of the other CSN2 users. At least maybe they can use it. I was just focused on trying to get it modded for my MTCD.
Thanks

 

[mcquaim]

Hi guys,

I had posted a question earlier in another thread asking for some help about a rubbish PX5 unit I bought for the brother:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/aotsr-android-head-unit-update-firmware-bluetooth-app.4514533/

I am not sure what my versions are in comparison to this thread, sorry, I'm a total noob... This is what is listed in my settings, it's already Android 10 I think or maybe a fake 10.

About machine

Kemel version
4.19.111
#495 Tue 05 17 14:39:38 CST 2022
uboot-03 30 2022-14:58:58_M11 1280x720L

MCU version
CSN2_D_04282022_202050_7708

CPU and Memory size
64-Bit 8-Core Cortex-A53 1.5GHz 4GB

Model & hardware
Model: PX5

Perhaps my stereo already has the update here?

My biggest issue with this stereo is the Bluetooth app and the Carplay app, they are very flaky.

Cheers,
Mac

 

[rigattoni]

Hi guys,

I had posted a question earlier in another thread asking for some help about a rubbish PX5 unit I bought for the brother:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/aotsr-android-head-unit-update-firmware-bluetooth-app.4514533/

I am not sure what my versions are in comparison to this thread, sorry, I'm a total noob... This is what is listed in my settings, it's already Android 10 I think or maybe a fake 10.



Perhaps my stereo already has the update here?

My biggest issue with this stereo is the Bluetooth app and the Carplay app, they are very flaky.

Cheers,
Mac

Sorry to say, but your expectation is a bit high.

Your MCU is from my knowledge the newest one. You don´t show the firmware version which is more important.

Bluetooth:
It´s with all units the same, that always the last connected phone gets connected. That is standard in this price segment.

Carplay:
Different thing and it is always hit or miss, dependent to the IOS-Version.

Get in contact with the seller and ask for an update for your unit. You can´t update the BT or the Carplay. It´s integrated in the firmware.
If they don´t answer, check your communication style. If it is the same as in your initial posting... I don´t wonder that they stopped answering. Learn how to speak/write with Chinese. They are different...

 

[mcquaim]

Sorry to say, but your expectation is a bit high.

Your MCU is from my knowledge the newest one. You don´t show the firmware version which is more important.

Bluetooth:
It´s with all units the same, that always the last connected phone gets connected. That is standard in this price segment.

Carplay:
Different thing and it is always hit or miss, dependent to the IOS-Version.

Get in contact with the seller and ask for an update for your unit. You can´t update the BT or the Carplay. It´s integrated in the firmware.
If they don´t answer, check your communication style. If it is the same as in your initial posting... I don´t wonder that they stopped answering. Learn how to speak/write with Chinese. They are different...

Thanks for the reply.

It's not the good news I was hoping for. I will try and find what the firmware version is to see if that helps.

I didn't think my communication style in this post was off but if it offended then my apologies

For over €400 to buy this unit I would have expected more from the Bluetooth functionality, it's just not useable in a family car, especially for someone not tech savvy in any way... By the sounds of it, I think we'll just have to write this off as an expensive mistake

 

[rigattoni]

Thanks for the reply.

It's not the good news I was hoping for. I will try and find what the firmware version is to see if that helps.

I didn't think my communication style in this post was off but if it offended then my apologies

For over €400 to buy this unit I would have expected more from the Bluetooth functionality, it's just not useable in a family car, especially for someone not tech savvy in any way... By the sounds of it, I think we'll just have to write this off as an expensive mistake

The posting style was not bad for European, for Chinese it was a bit off. The Chinese are quite sensitive about words and like to be asked nicely if you can help because you can't get it done.

I´m leading a project which is partly located in China and partly in France. Believe me... It´s sometimes difficult to get what you need.

 

[james73448]

Hi guys,

I had posted a question earlier in another thread asking for some help about a rubbish PX5 unit I bought for the brother:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/aotsr-android-head-unit-update-firmware-bluetooth-app.4514533/

I am not sure what my versions are in comparison to this thread, sorry, I'm a total noob... This is what is listed in my settings, it's already Android 10 I think or maybe a fake 10.



Perhaps my stereo already has the update here?

My biggest issue with this stereo is the Bluetooth app and the Carplay app, they are very flaky.

Cheers,
Mac

This link is for Android 10 to 12 upgrade csn2 mcu Belsee might work but it may be specific to there radios. https://icedrive.net/s/XYTyBRgaDSfv9YCNFaTF5b32gBDW

I tried it on my mtce mcu I get error that says can't flash oem image..
If it doesn't work you may have to boot into recover and click restore to factory.

 

[mcquaim]

This link is for Android 10 to 12 upgrade csn2 mcu Belsee might work but it may be specific to there radios. https://icedrive.net/s/XYTyBRgaDSfv9YCNFaTF5b32gBDW

I tried it on my mtce mcu I get error that says can't flash oem image..
If it doesn't work you may have to boot into recover and click restore to factory.

Hi James,

Do you know if anyone has flashed a non-Belsee stereo successfully with this Firmware?

 

[rigattoni]

Hi James,

Do you know if anyone has flashed a non-Belsee stereo successfully with this Firmware?

You can´t just easy upgrade to Android 12.
I really recommend to ask the seller of your unit for getting the last updates for your unit. All units with CSN2 and CSM4 are built by Klyde and your seller just put a batch on it and has most probably own changes in the UI.
Try to contact the seller and if this does not work, may be get in contact with Klyde. Other than that: There is a forum in Russia where these units are supported too. May be yo can find something there.

 

[mcquaim]

You can´t just easy upgrade to Android 12.
I really recommend to ask the seller of your unit for getting the last updates for your unit. All units with CSN2 and CSM4 are built by Klyde and your seller just put a batch on it and has most probably own changes in the UI.
Try to contact the seller and if this does not work, may be get in contact with Klyde. Other than that: There is a forum in Russia where these units are supported too. May be yo can find something there.

Hi there,

Yeah, but the seller will not reply to any query, they simply don't care since the return period on Ali Express has passed...

So, it's either stick it in the box and forget about it or try something myself to make this thing useable...

If that fails then it's back to option 1, back in the box and write it off as a bad mistake.

I might reach out to the manufacturer perhaps if flashing that Android 12 isn't an option. Hopefully they offer some advice.

Thanks,
Mac

 

[rigattoni]

Hi there,

Yeah, but the seller will not reply to any query, they simply don't care since the return period on Ali Express has passed...

So, it's either stick it in the box and forget about it or try something myself to make this thing useable...

If that fails then it's back to option 1, back in the box and write it off as a bad mistake.

I might reach out to the manufacturer perhaps if flashing that Android 12 isn't an option. Hopefully they offer some advice.

Thanks,
Mac

Still the same answer as I already posted:
Bluetooth with more than 1 phone is and keeps not possible.
May be one can do something with Tasker to just push a button on the screen, but therefor you need to change the launcher to another one like Fcc Car Launcher.
I will try to do something in the near future. In the moment there is no real time left.

About Carplay, I have a clear meaning... If you use an Apple phone it´s always a problem, because Apple changes their implementation of everything always without respect to any requirements. They do their own things and tbh... all 3rd-party radios are having the same issue on each new IOS version. Don´t blame the Android radio, blame Apple.

 

[james73448]

Hi there,

Yeah, but the seller will not reply to any query, they simply don't care since the return period on Ali Express has passed...

So, it's either stick it in the box and forget about it or try something myself to make this thing useable...

If that fails then it's back to option 1, back in the box and write it off as a bad mistake.

I might reach out to the manufacturer perhaps if flashing that Android 12 isn't an option. Hopefully they offer some advice.

Thanks,
Mac

Can you get the build number from settings and post it.?
Rigattoni is right though, I've been trying. I have 2 Xtrons
i bricked the px5 and ordered a new one which is mt8668 then saw that I could pull the som and reflash it. So since it's not my main radio I've been trying to upgrade it to 11 or 12 to get the new interface . I've probably bricked it 5 or 6 time's. When I tried the update with belsee I did not check mark the wipe data, it failed but I was able to just click restore to factory.

 

[mcquaim]

Thanks guys

Well, if updating to Android 12 or even 11 doesn't improve how Bluetooth works then I see no point in pushing this any further.

It seems crazy in 2022 that it would be designed this way that it wouldn't automatically connect to whatever paired device is in the car regardless of which one was last connected

I know it's not high end tech but it did cost over €400 so you would think it could handle something basic like this... The brothers wife just won't want it back in the car if she has to faff about with Bluetooth pairing every time she gets into the car....

Anyway, it's just how it is I guess...

 

[rigattoni]

Thanks guys

Well, if updating to Android 12 or even 11 doesn't improve how Bluetooth works then I see no point in pushing this any further.

It seems crazy in 2022 that it would be designed this way that it wouldn't automatically connect to whatever paired device is in the car regardless of which one was last connected

I know it's not high end tech but it did cost over €400 so you would think it could handle something basic like this... The brothers wife just won't want it back in the car if she has to faff about with Bluetooth pairing every time she gets into the car....

Anyway, it's just how it is I guess...

I bet, you would run into the same issue with any alternative high-end radio from Pioneer, Kenwood or similar, which costs more than 1k.

 

[mcquaim]

I bet, you would run into the same issue with any alternative high-end radio from Pioneer, Kenwood or similar, which costs more than 1k.

Hi there,

Well, I'm not sure about Android head units, as this is only the 3rd I've installed. The other 2 work as I expected, they automatically connect to whatever phone is currently in the car once they've been paired previously...

I have installed a good few non-Android stereos, 4-5 perhaps. 3 of them Sony, one Kenwood and one Alpine I think. The 3 Sony, all work like I described, the Kenwood also. The Alpine, I can't fully remember but it wasn't so smart, no Carplay. They didn't cost 1k either, more around the 500 mark I think.

But, I don't really know Android so perhaps this is normal behaviour for them but it's very odd to me if this is normal.

It would be very common for anyone to get into the car and leave your phone in your pocket or handbag or wherever. You don't think about it unless it rings. You then shouldn't have to go into the settings on the stereo, and perhaps even the phone, and connect it again, after you missed the call because it was in your pocket or wherever...

Maybe it's just me, sounds an oversight to be honest...

 

[Segundojazz]

Here is an Android 10 to android 12 update for Belsee PX5 rk3368
I cannot get it to work on mine. When it gets to patching oem image it fails. I suspect my system does not have oem image or its looking for theirs. I removed the 3 oem patch files then I get a footer error message then update aborted.

Maybe someone with more knowledge about unpacking and repacking this update can get it to work on our system..
IF you do and can provide a link to the moded file.


PX5 RK3368 Belsee Android 10 to 12 download link.

kupdate.zip - Icedrive

I installed it and it's not Android 12, it says 12 but it's FAKE, it looks like Android 10.

My Radio:
PX5
MACU: CSM4