LG V20 US996 Updates vs carrier models-Wi-Fi calling?

[SMARTPHONEPC]

Has the LG V20 US996 received any official OS-security updates, what about carrier models?

Can or can not Wi-Fi calling be enabled on the unlocked LG V20 US996 while the T-Mobile variant H918 Wi-Fi calling would be there by default & could be unlocked for use on other carriers?

Both http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US996-Unlocked-v20-titan & http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H918-Titan-v20 list Wi-Fi calling with uncertain fine print..
" Wi-Fi Calling** Use Wi-Fi to improve voice and data coverage
** Wireless service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability. Additional charges may apply. "

- Thanks for clarifying this with some real life experience

 

[JDMpire]

Bump, I would like to know about the Wifi calling as well.

I have yet to get it working on my unlocked H910 (T Mobile carrier).

 

[McNutnut]

Wifi calling and VoLTE features are controlled by the carrier and they will not enable these features on non-carrier devices. I'm assuming it's done this way to encourage people to buy their carrier locked versions.

 

[SMARTPHONEPC]

Wifi calling and VoLTE features are controlled by the carrier and they will not enable these features on non-carrier devices. I'm assuming it's done this way to encourage people to buy their carrier locked versions.

Works great on my unlocked Nexus 6P with a prepaid T-Mobile SIM (e.g. including on Airplane mode with only Wi-Fi enabled )..:good:

BTW, :laugh: name McNutnut

 

[McNutnut]

Works great on my unlocked Nexus 6P with a prepaid T-Mobile SIM (e.g. including on Airplane mode with only Wi-Fi enabled )..:good:

BTW, :laugh: name McNutnut

Did T-mobile sell a T-mobile branded 6P? I imagine they'd only disallow these features if they had a carrier locked version to sell of their own.

Thanks BTW

 

[daverup]

Has the LG V20 US996 received any official OS-security updates, what about carrier models?

I don't know about Wifi calling, but here is the latest from LG as of yesterday,
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This is a staff of LG Product Security Response Team(LG PSRT)
As you know, the latest patch was released at the last December.
Unfortunately, there is no further schedule for V20 (US996), but our dedicated team is still discussing about next patch schedule.
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LG's support for this phone has been horrible, Google's monthly security updates totally ignored.
I am shopping now for another brand that will update unlocked phones.
I like the features of the V20, but I am done waiting for LG to support it.

 

[McNutnut]

I'm running version 10h of the OS on my US996 which is on the April 1st Android security patch. I'm not sure if this update, or the previous ones, were offered via OTA. The images just kinda seem to pop up occasionally. See https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-us996-firmwares/ for the list. They seem to be making some updates, I'm just not sure where they're formally releasing them...

 

[SMARTPHONEPC]

Did T-mobile sell a T-mobile branded 6P? I imagine they'd only disallow these features if they had a carrier locked version to sell of their own.

Thanks BTW

I remember checking out the original Nexus 6 in a T-Mobile Store but it lost out when I compared it to the Samsung Note 4 which I bought instead. I think Google sold the Nexus 6P unlocked online only rather than at T-Mobile but Wi-Fi calling is supposed to be built into Android so perhaps when inserting a T-Mobile SIM it should become available when enabled in settings?

I also have an unlocked Moto X Pure that I could test but there were some issues with a prior update that I avoided installing but perhaps that's been worked out now that it should have Android 7. I'll look into that but anyone here has the LG V20 US996 or the T-Mobile variant H918 with Wi-Fi calling working?

I'm running version 10h of the OS on my US996 which is on the April 1st Android security patch. I'm not sure if this update, or the previous ones, were offered via OTA. The images just kinda seem to pop up occasionally. See https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-us996-firmwares/ for the list. They seem to be making some updates, I'm just not sure where they're formally releasing them...

Did you install your update/s from that link because the download count is somewhat uninspiring..?

 

[SMARTPHONEPC]

I don't know about Wifi calling, but here is the latest from LG as of yesterday,
-----------------------
This is a staff of LG Product Security Response Team(LG PSRT)
As you know, the latest patch was released at the last December.
Unfortunately, there is no further schedule for V20 (US996), but our dedicated team is still discussing about next patch schedule.
-----------------------

LG's support for this phone has been horrible, Google's monthly security updates totally ignored.
I am shopping now for another brand that will update unlocked phones.
I like the features of the V20, but I am done waiting for LG to support it.

Unlocked phones which get updated best would be Nexus'-Pixels, my Nexus 6P always gets the latest possible updates.. currently latest stable Build number N2G48B on 7.1.2 security patch level July 5, 2017 with the option for the Android 8 O Beta program.

December Why are some people reporting updates in 2017? How worried are people about older Android security patch levels or are they mainly annoyed about not getting the latest Android builds?

 

[McNutnut]

I remember checking out the original Nexus 6 in a T-Mobile Store but it lost out when I compared it to the Samsung Note 4 which I bought instead. I think Google sold the Nexus 6P unlocked online only rather than at T-Mobile but Wi-Fi calling is supposed to be built into Android so perhaps when inserting a T-Mobile SIM it should become available when enabled in settings?



I also have an unlocked Moto X Pure that I could test but there were some issues with a prior update that I avoided installing but perhaps that's been worked out now that it should have Android 7. I'll look into that but anyone here has the LG V20 US996 or the T-Mobile variant H918 with Wi-Fi calling working?

AT&T refused to enable Wi-Fi calling for me because the device isn't "certified". I'm pretty sure the phone is perfectly capable of supporting Wi-Fi calling, the carrier just refuses to enable it. Unfortunate :/

Did you install your update/s from that link because the download count is somewhat uninspiring..?

I extract the updated partitions from those update files and flash them via TWRP. You could of course use LG UP (I think) to flash the KDZ, which is a the method used to recover a bricked device, but takes it factory resets. I've run 10f and 10h from that site with no issues on AT&T.

 

[SMARTPHONEPC]

AT&T refused to enable Wi-Fi calling for me because the device isn't "certified". I'm pretty sure the phone is perfectly capable of supporting Wi-Fi calling, the carrier just refuses to enable it. Unfortunate :/

The AT&T store is where I went to check out their carrier model of the LG V20 because they are closest. T-Mobile network is actually best of all where I'm most often so I use their SIM. T-Mobile I've heard tends to be more relaxed than AT&T about enabling Wi-Fi calling in general but can anyone confirm this &/or anyone with the T-Mobile or AT&T carrier model or US996 confirm Wi-Fi calling ?

I extract the updated partitions from those update files and flash them via TWRP. You could of course use LG UP (I think) to flash the KDZ, which is a the method used to recover a bricked device, but takes it factory resets. I've run 10f and 10h from that site with no issues on AT&T.

Good job but how long does all that take? Android really is so fragmented..are OTA updates really that difficult to push out like my Nexus 6P gets..why doesn't Google better address all the fragmentation-mess out there?

 

[daverup]

Unlocked phones which get updated best would be Nexus'-Pixels, my Nexus 6P always gets the latest possible updates.. currently latest stable Build number N2G48B on 7.1.2 security patch level July 5, 2017 with the option for the Android 8 O Beta program.

December Why are some people reporting updates in 2017? How worried are people about older Android security patch levels or are they mainly annoyed about not getting the latest Android builds?

I can do without the latest Android version, but I do want Android monthly security updates.
I've had Nexus phones in the past and will look at the Pixels, or maybe wait for the new Pixel XL.
The Moto Z unlocked has gotten routine security updates, so I'm also looking at one of those or the newer Z2.
Headlines this morning about LG leaking a V30, just make me sad. A nice shiney new LG that will never get a security update.

 

[WTF?]

AT&T refused to enable Wi-Fi calling for me because the device isn't "certified". I'm pretty sure the phone is perfectly capable of supporting Wi-Fi calling, the carrier just refuses to enable it. Unfortunate :/

Well, you could always use the poor man's wifi calling - Telegram - it works great and you can call anyone in the world for free! (as long as they also have Telegram installed)

The calls are really clear, just like a regular mobile call, and did I mention this is FREE

 

[guapinoy]

AT&T refused to enable Wi-Fi calling for me because the device isn't "certified". I'm pretty sure the phone is perfectly capable of supporting Wi-Fi calling, the carrier just refuses to enable it. Unfortunate :/



I extract the updated partitions from those update files and flash them via TWRP. You could of course use LG UP (I think) to flash the KDZ, which is a the method used to recover a bricked device, but takes it factory resets. I've run 10f and 10h from that site with no issues on AT&T.

So you used the US Cellular Rom. Did it have any bloat? Did you get FM radio?

 

[Jaws4God]

so i'm assuming my VS995 (verizon) variant phone won't be able to use WIFI calling since i'm currently on a T-Mobile plan ?

 

[McNutnut]

So you used the US Cellular Rom. Did it have any bloat? Did you get FM radio?

So far I haven't seen the kdz files on lg-firmwares website contain anything US Cellular specific, even though some of them appear to be indicated for the US Cellular model. There's no carrier bloat (minus LG's) but the FM radio is still not available.

 

[warwagon19792]

Wow, I'm really embarrassed for LG! One would assume they would update the Unlocked version of the V20 MORE ..because they don't have carriers which have to approve the update. This is Pathetic!!!!

 

[SMARTPHONEPC]

Wow, I'm really embarrassed for LG! One would assume they would update the Unlocked version of the V20 MORE ..because they don't have carriers which have to approve the update. This is Pathetic!!!!

What's LG's excuse? Will the US996 or any V20 ever officially get Android 8/O?

I notice in my new US996 a 637.05 MB update Version US99610f mentioned at https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=70431731&postcount=2 , any reason not to update it?

Regarding this thread's subject: I did notice my T-mobile Wi-Fi calling was enabled in QuickShortcutMaker but when I turn on Airplane mode then only Wi-Fi I can't receive calls but if I turn off Airplane mode then only Wi-Fi on (i.e. Mobile data is off in Networks) calls go through so I'll have to test over Wi-Fi where I get no T-Mobile signal but my Nexus 6P does get calls over Wi-Fi in airplane mode with only Wi-Fi enabled..

Also the V20's Wi-Fi hotspot works on my Windows 10 PC only with WPA PSK security but when I try WPA2 PSK my PC says the PIN is wrong while another Android phone can connect with WPA2 without issues (Nexus 6P Wi-Fi hotspot with WPA2 security worked with the same PC)..

 

[John Hendry]

Security updates are needed like a fire hose is needed and not providing them puts LG at risk of Class Action Lawsuits if "something" happens IMO based on personal experience working with an expert witness over the years. Not having the updates known creates a target to go after.