Looking for some tips - Unable to get these two Belgium apps working with Magisk

[The Transporter]

Hi,

I live in Belgium and it's been years that I'm using Cyanogen, then now Lineage. Recently, I made a bargain and bought 2 Google Pixel 4a, one for me and one for my girlfriend.

I installed Lineage on both of them, and I have to say that it's the best Android experience I had so far. We both love our device. It's small, powerful enough, camera pictures are amazing.

However, we are unable to get any banking apps working. We would like to use 2 applications:

1. Payconiq: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.inthepocket.bcmc.bancontact&hl=en&gl=US
2. Keytrade: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.keytradebank.phone&hl=en&gl=US

I succeeded to get Payconiq working on my phone, using Magisk 23 and Magisk hide. So far so good.
Since this morning, Magisk has been updated to 24.1, Magisk hide is gone and I have to use Magisk Zygisk... And Payconiq doesn't work anymore.

Regarding the second app "Keytrade", it never worked, with any version of Magisk. I don't know what they did in their app, but it seems that they were able to find a way to detect if a phone has a custom rom pretty nicely.

Maybe this is something that the author of Magisk should be aware of? Maybe I'm doing something wrong?

Do you have any piece of advice for me? I don't want to be forced to re-install the official rom, I still want to use Lineage and have those apps working.

Thanks!

Edit 1: After installing Universal Safetynet fix (https://github.com/kdrag0n/safetynet-fix), payconiq works, but not Keytrade.

 

[blackhawk]

Easiest way is to use a good browser like Brave to login to the bank's website bypassing the app.
I consider banking apps to be trash apps and never load them. The more needless apps you load, the greater the security risk.
Apps I sometimes use but don't like their behavior I package block when not in use and/or firewall block.
Rather than fight it, bypass it...

 

[Ramihyn]

I consider banking apps to be trash apps and never load them.

Not helpful, because thanks to EU rules many banks simply and mandatorily require their app as the second authentication factor - especially when you don't want to use their "real" banking app and use the oldfashioned web interface instead.

 

[blackhawk]

Not helpful, because thanks to EU rules many banks simply and mandatorily require their app as the second authentication factor - especially when you don't want to use their "real" banking app and use the oldfashioned web interface instead.

That sucks... so much for easy fixes

 

[Austinredstoner]

Hi,

I live in Belgium and it's been years that I'm using Cyanogen, then now Lineage. Recently, I made a bargain and bought 2 Google Pixel 4a, one for me and one for my girlfriend.

I installed Lineage on both of them, and I have to say that it's the best Android experience I had so far. We both love our device. It's small, powerful enough, camera pictures are amazing.

However, we are unable to get any banking apps working. We would like to use 2 applications:

1. Payconiq: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.inthepocket.bcmc.bancontact&hl=en&gl=US
2. Keytrade: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.keytradebank.phone&hl=en&gl=US

I succeeded to get Payconiq working on my phone, using Magisk 23 and Magisk hide. So far so good.
Since this morning, Magisk has been updated to 24.1, Magisk hide is gone and I have to use Magisk Zygisk... And Payconiq doesn't work anymore.

Regarding the second app "Keytrade", it never worked, with any version of Magisk. I don't know what they did in their app, but it seems that they were able to find a way to detect if a phone has a custom rom pretty nicely.

Maybe this is something that the author of Magisk should be aware of? Maybe I'm doing something wrong?

Do you have any piece of advice for me? I don't want to be forced to re-install the official rom, I still want to use Lineage and have those apps working.

Thanks!

How to pass SafetyNet on Android after rooting or installing a custom ROM

It is possible to pass SafetyNet, even after extensive modding like rooting or installing a custom ROM. Check out how to do that here!

www.xda-developers.com

 

[The Transporter]

How to pass SafetyNet on Android after rooting or installing a custom ROM

It is possible to pass SafetyNet, even after extensive modding like rooting or installing a custom ROM. Check out how to do that here!

www.xda-developers.com

Safetyfix passes on the phone... I don't know how the Keytrade app is doing to detect root on the phone.

 

[Ramihyn]

That sucks... so much for easy fixes

So true Unfortunately, that seems the way to go in Europe considering banking. If you want it online instead of running to the bank clerk all the time, you're stuck with at least some authentication app. Things get only worse when there's no classical webinterface at all and you're bound to use a complete banking app instead (there are some neobanks doing so already).

I don't know how the Keytrade app is doing to detect root on the phone.

They simply recognize Magisk app in some way. I've read in some other threads here that a probable solution is to use the app called "Ice Box" to hide the Magisk app by freezing it. Might be worth a try for you.

 

[toolhas4degrees]

Another way if you have zygisk enabled. Go to config denylist select play store play services gms you need to hit menu system apps first. And you apps you wish to hide. Then search magisk alpha telegram channel. Download shamiko module. Reboot your phone with enforce denylist selected. After reboot turn the enforce denylist toggle off and flash the shamiko module and reboot. If your app still does not work and you are using lsposed zygisk. You can download hide my applist Xposed module and further hide your app.
Pm me if you want to links to all as they are not supposed to be posted on xda

 

[Awaces]

Have you managed to fix this?
I'm in the same boat.

My bank app 'keytrade bank' keeps detecting that I've rooted my device. This is what I tried
- I installed Magisk
- Installed module Shamiko
- Installed SafetyNet Fix v2.2.1
- Enabled Zygisk
- Configured DenyList
- Hide Magisk app

 

[Pims13]

Have you managed to fix this?
I'm in the same boat.

My bank app 'keytrade bank' keeps detecting that I've rooted my device. This is what I tried
- I installed Magisk
- Installed module Shamiko
- Installed SafetyNet Fix v2.2.1
- Enabled Zygisk
- Configured DenyList
- Hide Magisk app

You have to disable Enforce DenyList in Magisk.