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pndwal

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I had the latest magisk. I tried to hide the app (renamed it to something else) and when I tried to restore the app, it can't. And the root is gone-- Said that "Magisk is installed to the external storage. Please move the app to the internal storage. I tried to flash magisk again and there is no change. My root is gone and I can't bring it back. I'd appreciate it if anyone can help me. Thank you.
Haven't seen that message, but makes sense. No root apps I've had work on external storage, so if you're using adopted storage SD, or have other separate memory partition (I understand some devices do), Magisk App installed there won't have access to or see root.

Go to Settings, Apps (manage apps) and move Magisk App to internal memory. PW
 
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pndwal

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It's sad that magsik won't get any updates by its lead developer. :(
Early days, but I hope at least reins can be passed on to someone with no conflicting interests ...

Still, may be fight left in John yet; he does have a (HUGE) vested interest after all! 😬 PW
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What many of us are thinking and feeling about John's having gotten together with the alluring Ms. Google, and thanks to Steely Dan ...

Are you with me Doctor Wu?
Are you really just a shadow
Of the man that I once knew?
She is lovely, yes she's sly,
And you're an ordinary guy.
Has she finally got to you?
Can you hear me Doctor Wu?
Are you with me Doctor Wu?
Can you hear me Doctor Wu?
 
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One more screenshot circulating around (seems also a published but later removed)

Or, if not made by Photoshop
Well, first here was removed for a reason...

Just reading between the lines, but I'd say private communication is for colaborators at this stage. Makes sense they'd be in the loop.

I'm sure someone, John or someone in loop, will spill beans in due course.

Till then, anybody's guess... Perhaps an ownership change? Couple of Devs come to mind. 😛 PW
 
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I share your concern and your hope. I think that now is a good time to fork the github Magisk repo, just in case.
I have now performed the fork, as well as some offline backups. However, I don't have nearly enough spare time to work on Magisk, nor do I have nearly the amount of qualifications that John has.

Let's more of us get forking.
 

pndwal

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The man needs a break.

He certainly deserves one in my book. Not a lynch mob.
John Wu, 2h

I understand that being the developer of a popular open source project, people are *longing* for an explanation.

However, the speculation and conspiracy theories are getting out of hand, there are even attempts to sabotage my employment in the name of "saving the community"...

This is putting extreme strain on me mentally, so let me get the facts straight: nobody really knows exactly how things will go in the future.

I tweeted an assumption caused by miscommunication; I was informed it to be non factual; I deleted the tweet. That's all, really.

So please, PLEASE, put down your tinfoil hats and pitchforks, and allow me to handle the situation privately. I will update you once there is a conclusion.

Nobody is hired to kill off a project.
I did not join Google for money.
And of course, I have not betrayed the community.
www.twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1394835335096406023

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I'm trying to install Magisk 22.1 on my Samsung Galaxy S5 Marshmallow. I had before Magisk 20.4 and Magisk Manager (App) 8.0.4. I have updated TWRP recovery up to TWRP 3.5.1_9-0-klte
I've installed MAgisk 22.1 via TWRP as apk not as a zip file.
Everything was smoothly. I was able to reboot to the system. However, once I've open the MAgisk App, the App suggested to finish installation and to install some additional files. I did not follow that suggestion. So, after that the MAgisk version was 22.1, and MAgisk App version 8.0.4. I have updated the App version up to the last version 23.0. However, after the update the MAgisk seems to me stopped to recognize the version 22.1 (see screenshot).
So, what can I do now? Uninstall the MAgisk app from the phone Settings and reflash the 22.1 in recovery again and to follow the App suggestion to install additional files after reboot? Or should I completely uninstall MAgisk in TWRP and start from the scratch then? In such situation will I able to keep the root or I should root the phone again?
 

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I'm trying to install Magisk 22.1 on my Samsung Galaxy S5 Marshmallow. I had before Magisk 20.4 and Magisk Manager (App) 8.0.4. I have updated TWRP recovery up to TWRP 3.5.1_9-0-klte
I've installed MAgisk 22.1 via TWRP as apk not as a zip file.
Everything was smoothly. I was able to reboot to the system. However, once I've open the MAgisk App, the App suggested to finish installation and to install some additional files. I did not follow that suggestion. So, after that the MAgisk version was 22.1, and MAgisk App version 8.0.4. I have updated the App version up to the last version 23.0. However, after the update the MAgisk seems to me stopped to recognize the version 22.1 (see screenshot).
So, what can I do now? Uninstall the MAgisk app from the phone Settings and reflash the 22.1 in recovery again and to follow the App suggestion to install additional files after reboot? Or should I completely uninstall MAgisk in TWRP and start from the scratch then? In such situation will I able to keep the root or I should root the phone again?
Uninstall all versions of Magisk apk or manager, specially if you have hiden/renamed one

Then install the latest Manager apk v23. And generally, whenever asked, finish the requested installation
 

ChewyLouis

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Hi guys,
i have a problem when trying to install the magisk_patched-xxx.img
The latest LineageOS (16.05.) and Magisk App (23) is installed. I'm on Oneplus 7 Pro.

When i'm in Lineage Recovery > Advanced FastbootD
and enter this command via cmd:

fastboot flash boot /path/to/magisk_patched.img

I always get this Error

sending 'boot' (98304 KB)...
OKAY [ 2.200s]
writing 'boot'...
FAILED (remote: No such file or directory)
finished. total time: 2.250s

Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks in advance, you guys are great! :)
 

pndwal

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Hi guys,
i have a problem when trying to install the magisk_patched-xxx.img
The latest LineageOS (16.05.) and Magisk App (23) is installed. I'm on Oneplus 7 Pro.

When i'm in Lineage Recovery > Advanced FastbootD
and enter this command via cmd:

fastboot flash boot /path/to/magisk_patched.img

I always get this Error

sending 'boot' (98304 KB)...
OKAY [ 2.200s]
writing 'boot'...
FAILED (remote: No such file or directory)
finished. total time: 2.250s

Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks in advance, you guys are great! :)
I don't know about advanced fastboot flash mode in LOS Recovery, but John no longer recomends using custom Recovery due to inherent problems custom recovery can introduce. So there's no guarantees here:
installing Magisk through custom recoveries on modern devices is no longer recommended. If you face any issues, please use the Patch Image method as it is guaranteed to work 100% of the time.
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html#custom-recovery

Looks like your device is failing to find boot partition. Perhaps Recovery mode is not calling / switching to Fastboot mode properly, or other problem.

For official method, you need adb drivers on PC, img file in PC adb directory, phone in fastboot mode ('boot to bootloader') connected with usb, execute 'fastboot flash boot magisk_patched_boot.img'

Use of Custom Recovery is NOT part of Patch Image method referred to here:
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html#patching-images

🤠 PW
 
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HippoMan

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This is insanity

So many panic merchants

*sigh*
John himself accidentally caused the panic to increase. He said, "I tweeted an assumption caused by miscommunication; I was informed it to be non factual; I deleted the tweet. That's all, really."

I'm glad it was a miscommunication, and I'm glad the tweet was deleted. Let's just see what happens over time.
 

ChewyLouis

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I don't know about advanced fastboot flash mode in LOS Recovery, but John no longer recomends using custom Recovery due to inherent problems custom recovery can introduce. So there's no guarantees here:

https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html#custom-recovery

Looks like your device is failing to find boot partition. Perhaps Recovery mode is not calling / switching to Fastboot mode properly, or other problem.

For official method, you need adb drivers on PC, img file in PC adb directory, phone in fastboot mode ('boot to bootloader') connected with usb, execute 'fastboot flash boot magisk_patched_boot.img'

Use of Custom Recovery is NOT part of Patch Image method referred to here:
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html#patching-images

🤠PW

Thx for your fast reply,

when i follow the official method at first in cmd it looks like everything is working.
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But after reboot nothing changed.
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    With @topjohnwu as OP, this thread relies on moderators to do housekeeping as John is no longer active here... PW
    Exactly. People of this thread should report posts, if they deem it necessary and we'll take care of it, as usual.

    General info:
    No need to make a post about someone else's post being offtopic etc..
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    No, you're right. What might help is when some of the most helpful contributers like @pndwal and @zgfg and others could have rights to simply delete posts.

    I mean, what does a post like:

    add in the middle of a discussion about hiding Magisk? 🙄
    Or would it be better to just report such posts, or (dis)like them with a sad 🙁 or angry 😡 face?
    That will be one advantage of the new @ipdev 24.0+ thread; as an active OP he can delete posts / do housekeeping.

    With @topjohnwu as OP, this thread relies on moderators to do housekeeping as John is no longer active here... PW
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    Now that there is a new Magisk V24 stable thread.
    Will it be it be ruined like this thread?

    I really hope not. Who can post the most in the new thread does not count like it does here in this thread.
    Sorry for the off topic rant and being an a*s.
    No, you're right. What might help is when some of the most helpful contributers like @pndwal and @zgfg and others could have rights to simply delete posts.

    I mean, what does a post like:
    Any magisk hider, please?
    add in the middle of a discussion about hiding Magisk? 🙄
    Or would it be better to just report such posts, or (dis)like them with a sad 🙁 or angry 😡 face?
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    Latest Unofficial vvb2060 Alpha Magisk
    (Chinese Translated):

    # alpha changelog

    ## Magisk (3c7e7921-alpha)
    - [App] Support SharedUserId
    - [App] Delete backup file after restoring boot image
    - [App] Built-in current version update log
    - [General] no longer automatically unlock device blocks
    - [General] Use MagiskHide to hide when Zygisk is closed
    - [App] Compatible with Android 12L
    - [MagiskInit] Refactor the processing method of two-step startup
    - [General] Update to NDK 23
    - [App] Added crash statistics
    - [App] Fixed some reported crashes
    - [App] built-in module_installer.sh

    ### how to install?
    Install and uninstall Magisk through the Magisk application. Generally, it should be done directly in the application. In special cases such as the first installation, you should use the fastboot/odin tool to flash it after patching the image.
    By customizing Recovery is not a supported way.

    👍 PW
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    Show will begin, I tried to put some short help for probably the posts/questions soon to expect

    ===

    Please carefully read Changelog

    Study the Magisk documentation available from the official Magisk Github page - particularly about installing Magisk (if you are not familiar with patching the image in Magisk app and flashing the patched img from Fastboot- i.e, not the old school about Magisk zip through TWRP)

    Everything bellow has already been discussed in this thread since Canary 2301x started to roll out - hence more details can be found in the older posts in this thread

    a) No more MagiskHide. New technology instead (for the same - to help hiding root): Zygisk+DenyList

    b) No more built in SafetyNet checker. Install from PlayStore e g: YASNAC

    c) Modules window does no more connect to the (now frozen) old Modules repository.
    You must download module zip files manually and "Install from local storage".
    Or search for and install Fox Magisk Module Manager (Fox Mmm) app - it will connect to the new, alternative repository

    ---

    1) Make sure that both Magisk app and Magisk are installed and updated to the new version. Inspect version numbers on the main Magisk window/page

    2) Make sure to uninstall all Riru modules (not compatible with Zygisk)

    3) Settings, Enable Zygisk and reboot.
    Then check on the main window does it show Zygisk Yes

    4) Settings, enable Enforce DenyList.
    Configure DenyList, enable filters to Show OS and System apps
    Find Google Play Services and check-in only the two processes ending with gms and gms.unstable.
    You will have to check in all your banking apps and so as you used with MagiskHide.
    Always reboot upon reconfiguring DenyList

    5) If SafetyNet does not pass, install USNF 2.2.1 and test again.
    Always reboot upon installing a module, also if/when you enable Systemless Hosts

    ---

    Intentionally, I didn't want to complicate with Shamiko for the new Magisk 24 users 👍

    PS: See the new thread:
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    Can you confirm that all apps checked in the deny list are hidden to the system, pleeeaaase ???
    Few things to note: You really need to read release notes before using any Magisk build, official or otherwise. 🙃

    The build @Johnson_Ran posted is his own build of latest unofficial Alpha Magisk + LoveSys fix for OnePlus 7 / 7 Pro (and possibly other devices) w/ ramdisk detection issue; I posted re. a test build based on canary, now he posted his personal Alpha Magisk with fix for OnePlus... Nb. The fix has NOT been merged in Magisk master, Canary or even latest vvb2060 Alpha yet.

    Well this concept of deny list is confusing so I tried to treat it as a MagiskHide list and all apps I checked are not working as they did with v23... ^^
    Do you mean Are root-related execution environment changes hidden from the app? If so, that depends...

    MagiskHide is dead and gone in TJW builds going forward; denylist is quite different - it 'reverts Magisk features in use for selected processes', ie w/ denylist "Magisk denies further modifications and reverts all changes it had done. Magisk will not spoof/alter/manipulate any non-Magisk related signals or traces to circumvent any device state detection." So denylist is actually made more powerful for hiding TEE mods because of Zygisk, but won't perform the spoofing / alterations / manipulations of non-Magisk related signals or traces formerly done by MagiskHide.

    Even more powerful hiding methods are now available however, thanks to John's strengthened Magisk framework; he just won't do it himself:
    www.twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1445598597521633285

    Universal SafetyNet Fix and Shamiko are examples where Zygisk is used for advanced hiding by 3rd party modules. Nb. Denylist is not even needed if Devs choose to "do everything themselves"!
    www.twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1445598601372069890

    As I indicated, the biggest favour users can do themselves is read release notes before using any Magisk build, official or otherwise. For TJW Canary start with this one:
    https://github.com/topjohnwu/magisk-files/blob/9537c5d8cedfc09ca723ae0392b1219e75d9b636/notes.md
    ... read the blog John links there (for good reason) also... and scroll down and read the 2020 one also for more understanding of the general Magisk roadmap / direction...

    ONLY after understanding these major changes, if you want to try HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL bleeding edge vvb2060 Alpha builds, read IT'S Changelog (translate Chinese)... Latest here:
    https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/magisk-general-support-discussion.3432382/post-86215689

    Coming back to your statement
    I tried to treat it as a MagiskHide list and all apps I checked are not working as they did with v23... ^^
    Note a major difference between TJW denylist and Alpha denylist:
    • [General] Use MagiskHide to hide when Zygisk is closed
    So denylist in Alpha works like MagiskHide / hidelist only after Zygisk is closed; Nb. you NEED TO REBOOT to disable Zygisk.

    After this Riru modules will also work (it's a choice; Riru or Zygisk, not both), and if you needed 2.x series Universal SafetyNet Fix for your device, you'll need to swap to a USNF-Riru build if you had USNF-Zygisk. Note: There is no option to do this in TJW Canary as current USNF-Riru builds require MagiskHide to function.*

    Nb.1. In TJW builds denylist WON'T be used as hidelist or with MagiskHide. Alpha restores MagiskHide... This is peculiar to custom Magisk forks...

    Nb. 2. There are differences with MagiskHide in Alpha. Importantly, toggling MagiskHide off then on again does NOT add Google Play Services safetynet process to denylist (whether in denylist or hybrid alpha hidelist mode). You need to do this manually to pass SafetyNet as follows:

    Add Google Play Services process(es) to denylist unless a solution for hiding root associated modifications from GPS SafetyNet process(es) is incorporated in an active module. For devices where Magisk resides in /sbin (many pre. Android 11), only deny SafetyNet process, com.google.android.gms.unstable. For Android 11+ etc (non /sbin), deny Main process, com.google.android.gms also.

    Happy reading / playing, and hope this helps! 😀 PW

    Edit:

    *FWIW, this makes Alpha attractive for anyone wanting to use Riru and pass SafetyNet on late devices (w/ TEE Attestation in hardware affected by September Google server end changes) with post 23001 Magisk builds... This may only be useful in the interim until general Zygisk module conversion / take-up and Riru is dropped...

    However if (and only if) Riru does get continued support / remains popular / doesn't die post Magisk 24000 (ie. Zygisk in Stable Magisk), and @kdrag0n reconsiders this:
    https://github.com/kdrag0n/safetynet-fix/issues/120#issuecomment-971831719
    we may see working USNF-Riru for official TJW post Zygisk Magisk...

    I suspect though that predictions of Riru's imminent demise will be realised, so don't hold your breath.

    Thanks for all the fun RikkaW and team; You did it (allowed modules to run code in apps w/ zygote injection / Xhook) first! 👏 PW
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    Guess I can advertise @ipdev's new WIP

    [Discussion] Magisk - The Age of Zygisk​

    thread now that public 24.0 release is out:

    First 5 posts have a good summation of new Magisk changes / direction / tips. 👍 PW
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    ...snip...
    Just meant nandroid restore should be usable to roll back since you seemed concerned you'd 'lose ability to use nandroid backup' & would need to restore beloved A10 setup / mods piece by piece!...
    ...snip...
    A LOT of config is stored in the settings. For example:
    PHP:
    settings put global "window_animation_scale" "0.5";
    Because I use to build ROMs from source and therefore clean flash my devices a lot, I built a method to extract and reinstate all my config, to be used selectively and in combination with normal back-up apps, to reinstate my device as close to its previous state without manually hunting and seeking all the settings, after a clean flash.

    I automated this task as a method within the app TeMeFI and can be found under Current State>Settings>Generate Set All
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    Guys (especially @zgfg and @pndwal), big thumb up 👍🏻 for your patience in explaining everything gazillion times over and over 😂
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    This is the place for general support and discussion regarding "Public Releases", which includes both stable and beta releases.
    All information, including troubleshoot guides and notes, are in the Announcement Thread
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    Hello, I haven't given much support on XDA lately. It can be resulted from
    • University started and I have limited free time. In fact, I mostly develop during midnight
    • I live in Taiwan, which has large time zone differences between my European/American contributors/testers, which usually forces me to stay up late at night to discuss/test stuffs.
    • The new version is about to come, I don't want to spend effort on supporting old releases
    The planned update is delayed again and again, to some point I think I'll shed some light about what has been happening lately, also along with some announcements.

    New Forum!
    As you might have already discovered, Magisk got its own subforum on XDA! Many thanks to all the support you gave me, and much more information/features/support is about to come!
    **For developers supporting all the devices that are not using standard Android boot format, feel free to create threads in this section (actually, PLEASE do so) for your favorite devices after v7 is out. As I currently know, Asus devices require signing the boot image before flashing, and is model dependant; Sony devices seems to use ELF kernel that is unpatchable, or some has two ramdisks (inner + outer), both requires different workarounds; LG bootloader locked devices has to manually "BUMP" the boot image after flashing Magisk..... and there may be lots of other crazy boot image formats that haven't come up to my attention yet.
    It is impossible for me to support all these non-standard boot images, and I hope the community can collaborate to make Magisk running across all the devices. Overall, community collaboration is what XDA about :D

    The Pixel Phone
    Some of you might already know this news, that the next Pixel Phone right around the corner seems like it does not have ramdisk in boot image, which pretty much wrecked Magisk in all ways. However, it pretty much doomed root itself too. Kernel modifications is inevitable IMO, so I'll try to migrate my scripts to C programs that could possibly be included into the kernel itself. Note that I'm not familiar with linux kernel, I'm not even sure if my idea and concept is correct or not. But once the device is available, I think developers will find a way to bypass all the difficulties, and I'll do my best to learn things ;)

    Current Progress
    In the past month, I've spent quite some time learning SELinux, so that I can avoid using SuperSU's sepolicy patches. Thanks to the helps and tips from @phhusson and @Chainfire, I finally have a much clearer understanding of how SELinux works. The Magisk core parts (the scripts, boot image patches, new features, more supports) are actually done some time ago. What is causing all the delays is the Magisk Manager.
    To be completely honest, although I can code in Java without much issues, Magisk Manager is actually my first Android application, I had to reach out for assistance, and fortunately awesome developers like @DVDandroid and @digitalhigh contributed a lot, which makes the current Manager awesome.
    After the repo system and module management is mostly done, I was about to do some adjustments and release, but what we really done is decided to add another feature: auto-unroot with per-app settings. I decided to wait for it to be finished, and then do my adjustments. Due to reasons that'll be mentioned later, this feature will likely not be available for the next release (should come in future updates)

    Safety Net Disaster
    Those who are using Magisk for Safety Net bypass purposes must have known that Google recently updated the detection method of my Systemless Xposed. I still have no idea what Safety Net is detecting, so currently I cannot fix it on my side (also because I'm busy working on the next update). However, suhide developed by @Chainfire is able to hide Xposed and worked fine.
    However, only my Systemless Xposed v86.2, which is based on SuperSU's su.d, is supported using that method. v86.2 and v86.5 (latest, Magisk based) have nearly identical binaries, and the only difference is the path where the binaries are stored.
    I'm still not sure what's the real issue for it not being supported, I just hope it is not done intentionally.

    Conclusion
    Due to the fact that my Safety Net bypass is not 100% perfect now, I do not want to spend any more time waiting for auto-unroot to be polished. What I'm doing now is finishing up all the things I'd like to change in Magisk Manager (it has been a while since I last contributed to Manager, my fellow developers are doing all the heavy job), which might take a little more time, after that, packed with tons of information to be announced in Magisk Section, I'll release the long awaited update.

    Hope this lengthy post gives you the idea of the whole situation, and again thanks for all your support!!
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    Ah, some Chainfire bashing, I hope it is not too late for me to exercise additional villainy.

    First, let me make clear I have nothing against @topjohnwu, nor against Magisk. Magisk is an interesting project and it certainly displays @topjohnwu ingenuity and persistence. I don't doubt we will see more interesting things from his hands.

    -------------------------

    What has happened here is not all that dark and complicated, from either end. I returned from holidays, and someone pointed me at Magisk. My first thought: interesting!

    Among other things, the thread lists some issues with SuperSU, which in combination with the phrase The developer also requests users to not bug Chainfire with compatibility requests for SuperSU with Magisk from the portal article, raised my left eyebrow by nigh half an inch. The popular systemless xposed mod is apparently now based on it, and apparently it now no longer works with SuperSU, and apparently I'm not supposed to fix that, nor any of the other found issues. I found that a bit weird. So yes, I have told @topjohnwu that I was a bit surprised he was posting about issues with SuperSU without notifying me about them (I can't fix or help fix issues I'm not aware of, after all).

    He's also spreading a modified version of the SuperSU package, which is not all that uncommon, nor necessarily a problem. I have not looked into what he modified, I only ran a few quick tests on one of my devices, and found some commonly used commands run as root to be broken. I have informed him of this as well.

    It appears the tool of choice for Magisk is phh's Superuser, because of some of the mentioned issues with SuperSU. That's fine by itself, but fixing issues in that superuser by incorporating SuperSU's binaries into it is a somewhat questionable practise. After all, SuperSU is a commercial closed-source package that helps pay for my dinner, and superuser is a direct competitor. I have informed him that I was surprised he did this without asking for permission. I have expressed similar surprise on him spreading a modified version of LiveBoot (which helps pay for a snack now and then).
    @topjohnwu has also stated that Magisk's scripts are largely influenced by mine (I have not checked). Scripts based on mine are used all over the place on XDA, some people have crafted amazing things based on them, I have never made an issue of this (otherwise I would have just made them binaries). But yes, I have also stated to him that I don't think it's very nice to base something on one program, and then using that to (almost exclusively) push something directly competing with that program.

    tl;dr Towards @topjohnwu, I have:
    - expressed surprise he has issues getting Magisk to work with SuperSU, and has chosen not to inform me about those
    - expressed surprise he is using SuperSU binaries in a competing superuser without permission
    - expressed surprise he is posting a modified LiveBoot without permission
    - informed him of issues with the modified SuperSU he has posted
    - let him know I thought it wasn't very nice to be applying my scripts to benefit seemingly exclusively that same competing superuser

    To be crystal clear:
    - I have not asked for an apology
    - I have not asked for Magisk to be abandoned, neither the root hiding nor systemless module parts, and certainly not systemless xposed
    - I have not made an issue of any of this anywhere, until this post
    - I have not even specifically asked for anything to be taken down (though obviously in my opinion the other superuser package mixed with SuperSU's binaries, as well as the LiveBoot package, should go)
    - I have not reported this thread to XDA moderators for copyright violations or otherwise

    While my conversation with @topjohnwu may not win any awards for being friendly (though it may win some for brevity), I think all things considered my response has been rather mild. To be perfectly honest, until the apology post, I thought this was over with already. I think the apology post was triggered because I haven't replied to his last PM for a while - I was in the zone, it happens.

    To emphasize again, I have nothing against @topjohnwu, Magisk, or systemless xposed, and it is certainly not my goal to see any of them go. If it can be made to work together with SuperSU, great.

    I get it though: you think of something, you want to see if you can make it work, you finally get it to work, you publish it, it takes off - enthusiasm gets the better of you. Maybe in the rush some mistakes are made. That doesn't mean you have to just drop it and run. None of my stuff would make it past 0.1 if I stopped at the first big mistake :)

    Aside from said being in the zone coding, I usually regret actually responding to these sort of things the day after, which has made me hesitant to reply. Surprise me.
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    Thread temporarily closed so everyone sees this.

    The flood of "SafetyNet isn't working for me either!" posts are not helpful, at all. Please refrain from posting further, it will be looked into. Please do not forget that not passing SafetyNet is 100% NORMAL AND INTENDED when you have an unlocked booloader or running custom firmware. These are workarounds and they will be worked around in turn.

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    EDIT: Thread is reopened... I will be cleaning any SafetyNet posts for a while to keep the thread clean for real issues.
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    Hello everyone!

    I am aware that Google has updated Safety Net that makes Magisk itself a no go for Android Pay. In fact, I witnessed the change live while I am developing the new magiskhide, which should hide all Magisk modules and Magisk installed root.

    Google is serious about Safety Net now, clearly hunting down all possibility to run Xposed with Safety Net passed. I spend quite some time examining the new security measures last midnight, and fortunately it seems that it is possible to run Magisk and root along with Safety Net if no Xposed is running. I'm glad I removed the old root toggle at the right time lol, that is no longer feasible with the latest detection.

    So stay tuned for the next update, it will come with bug fixes, along with the new magiskhide to bypass that Safety Net.

    Google, how will a few systemless mods do any harm :p:p