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I have hidden Magisk V23 for 4 months and it still hides good root. Until the V24 appears and does not use hidden Root V23 anymore
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jons99

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Thanks, no I used fastboot command , this is the PC name folder where I moved the image patched.
This step is mandatory, because I moved with the PC the image patched
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In need helps for this step, I should rename the magisk patched image?
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Where I unchecked Recovery mode option?
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no need to rename. open your platform tools folder in that folder open powershell type fastboot boot and drag and drop the boot img file then press enter.
tho this will only boot that img if you want to flash it you need to write fastboot flash boot then drag and drop
 
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That is the point: I think you installed the new app without first uninstalling the old app.

There is no "hidden root". "Hide Magisk app" does not hide root. It hides the Magisk app.
The bank application does not work again in V23 when it is impossible to create "Hide The Magisk App" whether Magisk Hide is hiding the banking application. Another error I met at V24 is not possible to denylist Google Play Service when installing Modul SafetyNet-Fix. That makes me unable to pass Safety Net and use the bank application.
 

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The bank application does not work again in V23 when it is impossible to create "Hide The Magisk App" whether Magisk Hide is hiding the banking application. Another error I met at V24 is not possible to denylist Google Play Service when installing Modul SafetyNet-Fix. That makes me unable to pass Safety Net and use the bank application.
If you don't need Magisk app on a daily basis, you can uninstall the app (not Magisk)

All modules, root grants, MagiskHide (since you are on v23) will continue to work

Only when you need, you install that same Magisk v23 app (keep the apk handy), you will install the app, grant a new root, manage modules, sonething and uninstall the app again
 
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If you don't need Magisk app on a daily basis, you can uninstall the app (not Magisk)

All modules, root grants, MagiskHide (since you are on v23) will continue to work

Only when you need, you install that same Magisk v23 app (keep the apk handy), you will install the app, grant a new root, manage modules, sonething and uninstall the app again
I need root to work but also need to hide root bank and game app. I tried to remove and reinstall Magisk many times even reinstall ROMs but encountered errors in V23 as above. It was 3am but I still hope to try to overcome tomorrow not affecting the job
 

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I need root to work but also need to hide root bank and game app. I tried to remove and reinstall Magisk many times even reinstall ROMs but encountered errors in V23 as above. It was 3am but I still hope to try to overcome tomorrow not affecting the job
I'm not talking about uninstalling Magisk

When Magisk app is uninstalled, then it is better hidden then if you just hide it - isn't it?

I wrote about uninstalling Magisk app - read my previoud post carefully again, and again, and again if needed

If you don't distinguish Magisk from, then why Magisk app separately describes the version of MAGISK installed, and bellow the version of MAGISK APP installed
 
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Sorry for my English is not good, can misunderstand what you say. I cannot removed and reset the application or Magisk because it takes a lot of time and those applications need to run parallel to each other
I'm not talking about uninstalling Magisk

When Magisk app is uninstalled, then it is better hidden then if you just hide it - isn't it?

I wrote about uninstalling Magisk app - read my previoud post carefully again, and again, and again if needed

If you don't distinguish Magisk from, then why Magisk app separately describes the version of MAGISK installed, and bellow the version of MAGISK APP installed
 

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Sorry for my English is not good, can misunderstand what you say. I cannot removed and reset the application or Magisk because it takes a lot of time and those applications need to run parallel to each other
Phone Settings, Apps, find Magisk app and Uninstall it there

Just that, DO NOT DO anything else
 

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I can distinguish Magisk and Magisk Manager. Uninstalling Magisk Manger can hide root?
You complained that for Magisk v23 you cannot do "Hide Magisk app", didn't you

I'm telling you that instead of "Hide Magisk app" you uninstall Magisk app

Magisk app = Magisk manager - it is not Magisk

Of course, before you uninstall Magisk app (call it Magisk Manager if you like), fully setup your Magisk v23 - all modules, root grants, MagiskHide
 
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You complained that for Magisk v23 you cannot do "Hide Magisk app", didn't you

I'm telling you that instead of "Hide Magisk app" you uninstall Magisk app

Magisk app = Magisk manager - it is not Magisk

Of course, before you uninstall Magisk app (call it Magisk Manager if you like), fully setup your Magisk v23 - all modules, root grants, MagiskHide
Safetynet pass , magisk hide on , magisk app delete , bank app still detected
 

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Safetynet pass , magisk hide on , magisk app delete , bank app still detected
Then it's something else, banking apps get smarter and smarter to detect or guess about rooting

But believe me, if it detects now, it would also detect if you kept Magisk app installefd but just did "Hide Magisk app".
Bcs, the app is NOW UNINSTALLED, not just HIDDEN (some banking apps detect even hudden Magisk app)

It's not about finding Magisk app

Go to Magisk Github, read Wiki, there is a section with tricks how banking apps may detect 'root' and hints how you try to beat them:
 
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Then it's something else, banking apps get smarter and smarter to detect or guess about rooting

But believe me, if it detects now, it would also detect if you kept Magisk app installefd but just did "Hide Magisk app".
Bcs, the app is NOW UNINSTALLED, not just HIDDEN (some banking apps detect even hudden Magisk app)

It's not about finding Magisk app

Go to Magisk Github, read Wiki, there is a section with tricks how banking apps may detect 'root' and hints how you try to beat them:
I tried on the V24 with Zygisk Denylist + USNF as you guide another post or follow Youtube. Yasnac Pass SafetyNet But Other App (Safynet Test) Failed with Error (Cant Access Google Play Service). Banking still doesn't work. I do not use a lot of bank applications because I have many devices but I'm frequently used to check Magisk Hide operations. Before V24 officially released everything to operate normally. I am not specializing in phone so only focus on V23 version research . Thank you for guiding new users like me
 

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    Hello, I haven't given much support on XDA lately. It can be resulted from
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    In the past month, I've spent quite some time learning SELinux, so that I can avoid using SuperSU's sepolicy patches. Thanks to the helps and tips from @phhusson and @Chainfire, I finally have a much clearer understanding of how SELinux works. The Magisk core parts (the scripts, boot image patches, new features, more supports) are actually done some time ago. What is causing all the delays is the Magisk Manager.
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    Those who are using Magisk for Safety Net bypass purposes must have known that Google recently updated the detection method of my Systemless Xposed. I still have no idea what Safety Net is detecting, so currently I cannot fix it on my side (also because I'm busy working on the next update). However, suhide developed by @Chainfire is able to hide Xposed and worked fine.
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    Due to the fact that my Safety Net bypass is not 100% perfect now, I do not want to spend any more time waiting for auto-unroot to be polished. What I'm doing now is finishing up all the things I'd like to change in Magisk Manager (it has been a while since I last contributed to Manager, my fellow developers are doing all the heavy job), which might take a little more time, after that, packed with tons of information to be announced in Magisk Section, I'll release the long awaited update.

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    Ah, some Chainfire bashing, I hope it is not too late for me to exercise additional villainy.

    First, let me make clear I have nothing against @topjohnwu, nor against Magisk. Magisk is an interesting project and it certainly displays @topjohnwu ingenuity and persistence. I don't doubt we will see more interesting things from his hands.

    -------------------------

    What has happened here is not all that dark and complicated, from either end. I returned from holidays, and someone pointed me at Magisk. My first thought: interesting!

    Among other things, the thread lists some issues with SuperSU, which in combination with the phrase The developer also requests users to not bug Chainfire with compatibility requests for SuperSU with Magisk from the portal article, raised my left eyebrow by nigh half an inch. The popular systemless xposed mod is apparently now based on it, and apparently it now no longer works with SuperSU, and apparently I'm not supposed to fix that, nor any of the other found issues. I found that a bit weird. So yes, I have told @topjohnwu that I was a bit surprised he was posting about issues with SuperSU without notifying me about them (I can't fix or help fix issues I'm not aware of, after all).

    He's also spreading a modified version of the SuperSU package, which is not all that uncommon, nor necessarily a problem. I have not looked into what he modified, I only ran a few quick tests on one of my devices, and found some commonly used commands run as root to be broken. I have informed him of this as well.

    It appears the tool of choice for Magisk is phh's Superuser, because of some of the mentioned issues with SuperSU. That's fine by itself, but fixing issues in that superuser by incorporating SuperSU's binaries into it is a somewhat questionable practise. After all, SuperSU is a commercial closed-source package that helps pay for my dinner, and superuser is a direct competitor. I have informed him that I was surprised he did this without asking for permission. I have expressed similar surprise on him spreading a modified version of LiveBoot (which helps pay for a snack now and then).
    @topjohnwu has also stated that Magisk's scripts are largely influenced by mine (I have not checked). Scripts based on mine are used all over the place on XDA, some people have crafted amazing things based on them, I have never made an issue of this (otherwise I would have just made them binaries). But yes, I have also stated to him that I don't think it's very nice to base something on one program, and then using that to (almost exclusively) push something directly competing with that program.

    tl;dr Towards @topjohnwu, I have:
    - expressed surprise he has issues getting Magisk to work with SuperSU, and has chosen not to inform me about those
    - expressed surprise he is using SuperSU binaries in a competing superuser without permission
    - expressed surprise he is posting a modified LiveBoot without permission
    - informed him of issues with the modified SuperSU he has posted
    - let him know I thought it wasn't very nice to be applying my scripts to benefit seemingly exclusively that same competing superuser

    To be crystal clear:
    - I have not asked for an apology
    - I have not asked for Magisk to be abandoned, neither the root hiding nor systemless module parts, and certainly not systemless xposed
    - I have not made an issue of any of this anywhere, until this post
    - I have not even specifically asked for anything to be taken down (though obviously in my opinion the other superuser package mixed with SuperSU's binaries, as well as the LiveBoot package, should go)
    - I have not reported this thread to XDA moderators for copyright violations or otherwise

    While my conversation with @topjohnwu may not win any awards for being friendly (though it may win some for brevity), I think all things considered my response has been rather mild. To be perfectly honest, until the apology post, I thought this was over with already. I think the apology post was triggered because I haven't replied to his last PM for a while - I was in the zone, it happens.

    To emphasize again, I have nothing against @topjohnwu, Magisk, or systemless xposed, and it is certainly not my goal to see any of them go. If it can be made to work together with SuperSU, great.

    I get it though: you think of something, you want to see if you can make it work, you finally get it to work, you publish it, it takes off - enthusiasm gets the better of you. Maybe in the rush some mistakes are made. That doesn't mean you have to just drop it and run. None of my stuff would make it past 0.1 if I stopped at the first big mistake :)

    Aside from said being in the zone coding, I usually regret actually responding to these sort of things the day after, which has made me hesitant to reply. Surprise me.
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    Thread temporarily closed so everyone sees this.

    The flood of "SafetyNet isn't working for me either!" posts are not helpful, at all. Please refrain from posting further, it will be looked into. Please do not forget that not passing SafetyNet is 100% NORMAL AND INTENDED when you have an unlocked booloader or running custom firmware. These are workarounds and they will be worked around in turn.

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    EDIT: Thread is reopened... I will be cleaning any SafetyNet posts for a while to keep the thread clean for real issues.
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    Hello everyone!

    I am aware that Google has updated Safety Net that makes Magisk itself a no go for Android Pay. In fact, I witnessed the change live while I am developing the new magiskhide, which should hide all Magisk modules and Magisk installed root.

    Google is serious about Safety Net now, clearly hunting down all possibility to run Xposed with Safety Net passed. I spend quite some time examining the new security measures last midnight, and fortunately it seems that it is possible to run Magisk and root along with Safety Net if no Xposed is running. I'm glad I removed the old root toggle at the right time lol, that is no longer feasible with the latest detection.

    So stay tuned for the next update, it will come with bug fixes, along with the new magiskhide to bypass that Safety Net.

    Google, how will a few systemless mods do any harm :p:p