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good morning all.
latest 5.0.5519 of Intune Portal (Microsoft) detects root !
On top of common/standard guideline (100& working till yesterday),
a) I hided xposed modules (HMA)
b) XprivacyLUA is set as well (tracking and analytics)
No way to circumvent root detection. I suspect Intune Portal needs to get the list of installed applications as - when I also set this flag in XPrivacy + complete app's data reset - the account cannot be addedd and app loops.....
I also froze (renamed) Magisk app --> no luck
any further suggestion from you?
latest 5.0.5519 of Intune Portal (Microsoft) detects root !
On top of common/standard guideline (100& working till yesterday),
a) I hided xposed modules (HMA)
b) XprivacyLUA is set as well (tracking and analytics)
No way to circumvent root detection. I suspect Intune Portal needs to get the list of installed applications as - when I also set this flag in XPrivacy + complete app's data reset - the account cannot be addedd and app loops.....
I also froze (renamed) Magisk app --> no luck
any further suggestion from you?
Latest Official TJW Canary (release) & Debug (debug) Magisk builds:
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Magisk (8dfb30fe) (24313)
- [App] Fix Debug channel preference not sticking
- [App] Update the stub dynamic resource loading implementation to use official APIs on API 30+
- [MagiskSU] Prune unused UIDs as soon as possible to prevent UID reuse attacks
- [MagiskSU] Verify and enforce the installed Magisk app's certificate to match the distributor's signature
- [DenyList] Fix DenyList on shared UID apps
Diffs to v24.3
- [MagiskInit] Update 2SI implementation, significantly increase device compatibility (e.g. Sony Xperia devices)
- [MagiskInit] Introduce new sepolicy injection mechanism
- [MagiskInit] Support Oculus Go
- [MagiskInit] Support Android 13 GKIs (Pixel 6)
- [MagiskBoot] Fix vbmeta extraction implementation
- [App] [MagiskSU] Properly support apps using shared UID
- [MagiskSU] Fix a possible crash in magiskd
- [MagiskSU] Prune unused UIDs as soon as possible to prevent UID reuse attacks
- [MagiskSU] Verify and enforce the installed Magisk app's certificate to match the distributor's signature
- [Zygisk] Fix function hooking on devices running Android 12 with old kernels
- [DenyList] Fix DenyList on shared UID apps
- [BusyBox] Add workaround for devices running old kernels
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I've had 21.4 for a long while, then last day I updated it via its app which put the phone into a permanent loop of "Phone is starting" across the desktop. I then installed the same 24.3 via TWRP which removed the loop but also took away mobile data.
I meant did you ever use patch in app & then flash separately (eg after an OTA) as this is where many (unwary) get kernel mismatches due to using image from earlier ROM etc... This is different from Direct Install...
If you suspect this may have occurred, you should restore stock images and do a fresh Magisk installation; I'd:
1) simply delete everything in /data/adb folder, especially if you suspect Magisk installation may be corrupted (optional; removes all settings & modules also).
2) flash stock boot.img back, or dirty flash a complete ROM again. (Fastboot ROMs are the most complete.)
You could also try latest Canary if you have further issues as it has many recent fixes, but it's doubtful that these will be needed by older devices like yours.
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I'm still confused with debug & canary version. I saw tjw only release canary version which was written on the github commits, what about the debug version, should it be build by people themselves ?
If someone use canary version does he/she could easily switch to debug version without flashing, I mean only only intalling the apk to debug ?
Why should you build debug for yourself?!
Isn't it more simple to follow the link from Magisk app (no matter which version) to go to the Magisk official GitHub page
Scroll down there to find Downloads - see the screenshot
You can download app-debug.apk (Debug) or app-release.apk (Canary)
To switch, you need to download and install the right APK and then to patch the img and flash (or you can flash the renamed APK to zip from TWRP).
Installation is also described in details on the Magisk GitHub page
Attachments
He didn't mention the debug release on the commit, like stable version or canary.
Attachments
Download app-debug.apk - it will be 17 MB
app-realease.apk - it will be 10 MB
Install either one, it will display as 24313
Since Debug and Canary builds are basically functionally identical, they are produced in tandem and appear in https://github.com/topjohnwu/magisk-files/tree/canary (repo/branch).
Debug will produce a performance hit on old devices due to new debug tools integrated, but the difference is otherwise just build type. Canary is now smaller than it was as verbose debug logging is removed and it is built as release. Debug is built as debug. Both are built at the same time from same commit...
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my intune company portal is updated to latest version and it is still fine, i.e. root not detected. i only have usnf and shamiko modules
you have to make sure ALL activities under intune are ticked in denylist (default is not)
ok, many thanks! I will select all the activities as per your suggestion (in last but noe version that was not needed).
But which ANdroid version do you use?
Actually, someone in this post also reported the need to check all activities for intune company portal:
[Discussion] Magisk - The Age of Zygisk.
This is a discussion and help thread for the newer versions of Magisk. The main goal of this thread is to help users migrate to Magisk v24+ SafetyNet Basic integrity Pass CTS profile match Pass Play Protect certification Device is certified...
forum.xda-developers.com
I am using Android 12.
in Android 11 (it is supposed to deny access to applist) I have also added Outlook in Denylist (standard selection for IntunePortal too, non all activities) and it WORKS !Actually, someone in this post also reported the need to check all activities for intune company portal:
[Discussion] Magisk - The Age of Zygisk.
This is a discussion and help thread for the newer versions of Magisk. The main goal of this thread is to help users migrate to Magisk v24+ SafetyNet Basic integrity Pass CTS profile match Pass Play Protect certification Device is certified...
I am using Android 12.
of course Manager must be repacked with random name,
In android 10 this trick does not work though, or I am not able to make it working
Can someone please help with my issue?
I'm trying to install Magisk to inactive slot as per this guide but no success.
I uninstalled Magisk (restore images option) successfully, downloaded and installed OTA, went back to install Magisk but there is no "install to inactive slot" anymore (screenshot), only select patch a file. It used to be on older versions when I was on LOS 17 a few months ago. I'm on 18 now. Magisk latest.
I'm trying to install Magisk to inactive slot as per this guide but no success.
I uninstalled Magisk (restore images option) successfully, downloaded and installed OTA, went back to install Magisk but there is no "install to inactive slot" anymore (screenshot), only select patch a file. It used to be on older versions when I was on LOS 17 a few months ago. I'm on 18 now. Magisk latest.
Don't know regarding your ROM, on my Xiaomi, stock ROM the option is present
If you are on 24.3 Stable, have you tried with the latest Canary 24313.
Btw, if you want to report to Magisk GitHub, you will need (Canary) Debug version
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You forgot Plan Z. Make backups before doing anything that may trash your setup, and have a restore plan.
Id be careful with using MiX. Although I use MiX, editing dB's can have issues. It was a while back, but what I think I saw happen, is that MiX makes a copy of the database, makes the change to its own copy, and then copies back over the original. That can fail if there is another app using the dB or has the same plans.
Another option is to use SQLite directly from the command line, or use the app I built TeMeFI, which also edits the dB in-situ; its literally has a GUI to SQLite command line. MiX is closed source so its hard to know, but it failed to update a major db in android (I think the MediaDB), where the other options worked.
But the 1st option is without question the best option. ie have Magisk mess with its own database. Database concurrency is a hard taskmaster. -
9Latest Official TJW Beta (release) Magisk build:
Magisk
2022.6.7 Magisk v25.0
Another major release! A lot of the changes aren’t visible at the surface, but v25 is actually a really substantial upgrade!
MagiskInit Rewrite
A significant portion of magiskinit (the critical software that runs before your device boots up) is completely rewritten from scratch. Ever since Android introduced Project Treble in Android 8.0, Magisk has been constantly fighting against the increasingly complex partitioning and early mount setups of all kinds of devices, sometimes with weird OEM specific implementations. It got to a point that magiskinit had become so complicated that few people (including myself!) were aware of every detail, and maintaining this piece of software like this was clearly not sustainable. After many months of planning (yes, this whole re-architecture has been in my head for a long time) and some help from external contributors, a whole new sepolicy injection mechanism is introduced into Magisk, solving the “SELinux Problem” once and for all.
Since this is a full paradigm shift on how Magisk hot-patch the device at boot, several behaviors that many developers implicitly relied on might not exist. For example, Magisk no longer patches fstabs in most scenarios, which means AVB will remain intact; some custom kernels rely on AVB being stripped out for them by Magisk.
MagiskSU Security Enhancements
The superuser functionality of Magisk has not seen much changes ever since its introduction. v25 focuses on making root permission management more accurate and secure:
- Add a whole new package tracking system to ensure malicious UID reuse attack cannot be performed
- Properly support and implement the UX in the Magisk app for packages using sharedUserId
- Enforce root manager APK signature verification to combat the rampant unofficial Magisk app “mods”
And in case some of you are about to put on your tin foil hats, this is not designed to “vendor lock-in”; the goal is to make sure your root management app comes from the same developer of the underlying root implementation. Magisk’s build system allows custom distributors to use its own signing keys, and in addition, I am also providing official debug builds which skips any signature verification for development.
Full Changelog: here
Magisk Changelog
v25.0
- [MagiskInit] Update 2SI implementation, significantly increase device compatibility (e.g. Sony Xperia devices)
- [MagiskInit] Introduce new sepolicy injection mechanism
- [MagiskInit] Support Oculus Go
- [MagiskInit] Support Android 13 GKIs (Pixel 6)
- [MagiskBoot] Fix vbmeta extraction implementation
- [App] Fix stub app on older Android versions
- [App] [MagiskSU] Properly support apps using sharedUserId
- [MagiskSU] Fix a possible crash in magiskd
- [MagiskSU] Prune unused UIDs as soon as system_server restarts to prevent UID reuse attacks
- [MagiskSU] Verify and enforce the installed Magisk app’s certificate to match the distributor’s signature
- [MagiskSU] [Zygisk] Proper package management and detection
- [Zygisk] Fix function hooking on devices running Android 12 with old kernels
- [Zygisk] Fix Zygisk’s self code unloading implementation
- [DenyList] Fix DenyList on shared UID apps
- [BusyBox] Add workaround for devices running old kernels
PW7Latest Official TJW public Stable (release) Magisk build:
Magisk
Magisk Changelog
v25.1
- [MagiskBoot] Fix ramdisk backup being incorrectly skipped
- [MagiskBoot] Add new feature to detect unsupported dtb and abort during installation
- [Zygisk] Change binary hijack paths
- [App] Fix incorrect recovery mode detection and installation
- [MagiskInit] Fix config not properly exported in legacy SAR devices
- [General] Enforce the Magisk app to always match or be newer than magiskd
Release Notes:
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/releases/25100.html
For remaining diffs to public Stable 24.3, see Changelog for public Beta 25.0:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/magisk-general-support-discussion.3432382/post-86993241
PW6Thank you @zgfg and @ipdev . I have a fully working and automated script to both update my phone and patch & flash the magisk boot.img file. The only thing thats missing is the autoreboot after sideload but i guess TWRP has to implement this feature.
The script can both be used as standalone or class to modify it for custom stuff. Ill continue to work on the repo and make everything neat, as well as working on windows and linux binarys & a gui for people that have no idea how to use scripts.
Thank you guys for your help, this will save so much time for me and maybe even other people (at least i hope it will be used).
Here it is on github6
You could opt for temporary root and check if it works or not. For that, boot your device via the Magisk patched boot file using the command-
If everything's well and good, then open the Magisk app and select Direct Install. It will permanently root your device.Code:fastboot boot magisk-patched-boot.img
However, if your device doesn't boot up, then retry with a force restart, it will be booted to the standard non-rooted OS.
If you are still unable to boot to the OS, then flash the stock boot.img via
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1082This is the place for general support and discussion regarding "Public Releases", which includes both stable and beta releases.
All information, including troubleshoot guides and notes, are in the Announcement Thread156Hello, I haven't given much support on XDA lately. It can be resulted from
- University started and I have limited free time. In fact, I mostly develop during midnight
- I live in Taiwan, which has large time zone differences between my European/American contributors/testers, which usually forces me to stay up late at night to discuss/test stuffs.
- The new version is about to come, I don't want to spend effort on supporting old releases
New Forum!
As you might have already discovered, Magisk got its own subforum on XDA! Many thanks to all the support you gave me, and much more information/features/support is about to come!
**For developers supporting all the devices that are not using standard Android boot format, feel free to create threads in this section (actually, PLEASE do so) for your favorite devices after v7 is out. As I currently know, Asus devices require signing the boot image before flashing, and is model dependant; Sony devices seems to use ELF kernel that is unpatchable, or some has two ramdisks (inner + outer), both requires different workarounds; LG bootloader locked devices has to manually "BUMP" the boot image after flashing Magisk..... and there may be lots of other crazy boot image formats that haven't come up to my attention yet.
It is impossible for me to support all these non-standard boot images, and I hope the community can collaborate to make Magisk running across all the devices. Overall, community collaboration is what XDA about
The Pixel Phone
Some of you might already know this news, that the next Pixel Phone right around the corner seems like it does not have ramdisk in boot image, which pretty much wrecked Magisk in all ways. However, it pretty much doomed root itself too. Kernel modifications is inevitable IMO, so I'll try to migrate my scripts to C programs that could possibly be included into the kernel itself. Note that I'm not familiar with linux kernel, I'm not even sure if my idea and concept is correct or not. But once the device is available, I think developers will find a way to bypass all the difficulties, and I'll do my best to learn things
Current Progress
In the past month, I've spent quite some time learning SELinux, so that I can avoid using SuperSU's sepolicy patches. Thanks to the helps and tips from @phhusson and @Chainfire, I finally have a much clearer understanding of how SELinux works. The Magisk core parts (the scripts, boot image patches, new features, more supports) are actually done some time ago. What is causing all the delays is the Magisk Manager.
To be completely honest, although I can code in Java without much issues, Magisk Manager is actually my first Android application, I had to reach out for assistance, and fortunately awesome developers like @DVDandroid and @digitalhigh contributed a lot, which makes the current Manager awesome.
After the repo system and module management is mostly done, I was about to do some adjustments and release, but what we really done is decided to add another feature: auto-unroot with per-app settings. I decided to wait for it to be finished, and then do my adjustments. Due to reasons that'll be mentioned later, this feature will likely not be available for the next release (should come in future updates)
Safety Net Disaster
Those who are using Magisk for Safety Net bypass purposes must have known that Google recently updated the detection method of my Systemless Xposed. I still have no idea what Safety Net is detecting, so currently I cannot fix it on my side (also because I'm busy working on the next update). However, suhide developed by @Chainfire is able to hide Xposed and worked fine.
However, only my Systemless Xposed v86.2, which is based on SuperSU's su.d, is supported using that method. v86.2 and v86.5 (latest, Magisk based) have nearly identical binaries, and the only difference is the path where the binaries are stored.
I'm still not sure what's the real issue for it not being supported, I just hope it is not done intentionally.
Conclusion
Due to the fact that my Safety Net bypass is not 100% perfect now, I do not want to spend any more time waiting for auto-unroot to be polished. What I'm doing now is finishing up all the things I'd like to change in Magisk Manager (it has been a while since I last contributed to Manager, my fellow developers are doing all the heavy job), which might take a little more time, after that, packed with tons of information to be announced in Magisk Section, I'll release the long awaited update.
Hope this lengthy post gives you the idea of the whole situation, and again thanks for all your support!!121Ah, some Chainfire bashing, I hope it is not too late for me to exercise additional villainy.
First, let me make clear I have nothing against @topjohnwu, nor against Magisk. Magisk is an interesting project and it certainly displays @topjohnwu ingenuity and persistence. I don't doubt we will see more interesting things from his hands.
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What has happened here is not all that dark and complicated, from either end. I returned from holidays, and someone pointed me at Magisk. My first thought: interesting!
Among other things, the thread lists some issues with SuperSU, which in combination with the phrase The developer also requests users to not bug Chainfire with compatibility requests for SuperSU with Magisk from the portal article, raised my left eyebrow by nigh half an inch. The popular systemless xposed mod is apparently now based on it, and apparently it now no longer works with SuperSU, and apparently I'm not supposed to fix that, nor any of the other found issues. I found that a bit weird. So yes, I have told @topjohnwu that I was a bit surprised he was posting about issues with SuperSU without notifying me about them (I can't fix or help fix issues I'm not aware of, after all).
He's also spreading a modified version of the SuperSU package, which is not all that uncommon, nor necessarily a problem. I have not looked into what he modified, I only ran a few quick tests on one of my devices, and found some commonly used commands run as root to be broken. I have informed him of this as well.
It appears the tool of choice for Magisk is phh's Superuser, because of some of the mentioned issues with SuperSU. That's fine by itself, but fixing issues in that superuser by incorporating SuperSU's binaries into it is a somewhat questionable practise. After all, SuperSU is a commercial closed-source package that helps pay for my dinner, and superuser is a direct competitor. I have informed him that I was surprised he did this without asking for permission. I have expressed similar surprise on him spreading a modified version of LiveBoot (which helps pay for a snack now and then).
@topjohnwu has also stated that Magisk's scripts are largely influenced by mine (I have not checked). Scripts based on mine are used all over the place on XDA, some people have crafted amazing things based on them, I have never made an issue of this (otherwise I would have just made them binaries). But yes, I have also stated to him that I don't think it's very nice to base something on one program, and then using that to (almost exclusively) push something directly competing with that program.
tl;dr Towards @topjohnwu, I have:
- expressed surprise he has issues getting Magisk to work with SuperSU, and has chosen not to inform me about those
- expressed surprise he is using SuperSU binaries in a competing superuser without permission
- expressed surprise he is posting a modified LiveBoot without permission
- informed him of issues with the modified SuperSU he has posted
- let him know I thought it wasn't very nice to be applying my scripts to benefit seemingly exclusively that same competing superuser
To be crystal clear:
- I have not asked for an apology
- I have not asked for Magisk to be abandoned, neither the root hiding nor systemless module parts, and certainly not systemless xposed
- I have not made an issue of any of this anywhere, until this post
- I have not even specifically asked for anything to be taken down (though obviously in my opinion the other superuser package mixed with SuperSU's binaries, as well as the LiveBoot package, should go)
- I have not reported this thread to XDA moderators for copyright violations or otherwise
While my conversation with @topjohnwu may not win any awards for being friendly (though it may win some for brevity), I think all things considered my response has been rather mild. To be perfectly honest, until the apology post, I thought this was over with already. I think the apology post was triggered because I haven't replied to his last PM for a while - I was in the zone, it happens.
To emphasize again, I have nothing against @topjohnwu, Magisk, or systemless xposed, and it is certainly not my goal to see any of them go. If it can be made to work together with SuperSU, great.
I get it though: you think of something, you want to see if you can make it work, you finally get it to work, you publish it, it takes off - enthusiasm gets the better of you. Maybe in the rush some mistakes are made. That doesn't mean you have to just drop it and run. None of my stuff would make it past 0.1 if I stopped at the first big mistake
Aside from said being in the zone coding, I usually regret actually responding to these sort of things the day after, which has made me hesitant to reply. Surprise me.76Thread temporarily closed so everyone sees this.
The flood of "SafetyNet isn't working for me either!" posts are not helpful, at all. Please refrain from posting further, it will be looked into. Please do not forget that not passing SafetyNet is 100% NORMAL AND INTENDED when you have an unlocked booloader or running custom firmware. These are workarounds and they will be worked around in turn.
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EDIT: Thread is reopened... I will be cleaning any SafetyNet posts for a while to keep the thread clean for real issues.75Hello everyone!
I am aware that Google has updated Safety Net that makes Magisk itself a no go for Android Pay. In fact, I witnessed the change live while I am developing the new magiskhide, which should hide all Magisk modules and Magisk installed root.
Google is serious about Safety Net now, clearly hunting down all possibility to run Xposed with Safety Net passed. I spend quite some time examining the new security measures last midnight, and fortunately it seems that it is possible to run Magisk and root along with Safety Net if no Xposed is running. I'm glad I removed the old root toggle at the right time lol, that is no longer feasible with the latest detection.
So stay tuned for the next update, it will come with bug fixes, along with the new magiskhide to bypass that Safety Net.
Google, how will a few systemless mods do any harm
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