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m0han

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I'm running Magisk Delta. Zygisk enabled and Deny list properly configured, but not enforced.
i'm on the latest delta. i see no option to disable 'enforce denylist'. well, i 'removed' dlu and shamiko, rebooted, installed shamiko 0.5.1 afresh. now momo 4.3.1 does not find zygisk. but, init.rc is modified.
 

martyfender

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yes. no option to disable 'enforce denylist'. i'm on the latest delta. the only change to the setup i had shamiko 0.5.0 on is usnf was updated to 2.3.1.

p.s.: that was my post you quoted, but the name is seen as vMAC and not m0han. how come?
I have one of my devices on the delta. I believe there is no option to disable enforce denylist because the delta includes magiskhide and with it the denylist must be enabled. I asked @huskydg this twice to clarify, but he never responded, if I recall he responded with something else.
 
I have one of my devices on the delta. I believe there is no option to disable enforce denylist because the delta includes magiskhide and with it the denylist must be enabled. I asked @huskydg this twice to clarify, but he never responded, if I recall he responded with something else.
Turning Magisk hide off acts like disabling enforce.
 

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I am not sure where I am supposed to post this. I have a google pixel 6 pro rooted on android 13.3. I accidentally hit 'reboot to recovery' in magisk and I am stuck in a bootloop. I am able to get into fastboot mode but adb does not recognize my device. Device manager recognizes it as lemobile android device>android bootloader interface. I searched on here, the pixel 6 forum and just google but am not too sure what I should do. I don't know if I have a rogue module but I do not know how to uninstall it since I cannot find a twrp for the pixel 6 pro.

edit: I didn't realize it was 'fastboot devices' instead of 'adb devices'. I downloaded the android 13.3 factory image and am now installing via the 'flash-all' script. Hoping I don't run into any more problems.
 
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martyfender

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I had tried that and rebooted, but shamiko still showed as not working because of denylist being enforced. I will try again, with the new shamiko though.
I disabled magiskhide in the delta, installed the new shamiko and rebooted and shamiko now shows as working. Onn 8 first gen, Android 9 tablet. The latest momo only reports init.rc modified.
 
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zgfg

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funny thing is 'shamiko doesn't work....'.
Now reading all these recent posts about Delta, everything is pretty logical

Keywords: Delta, Alpha, old MagiskHide, DenyList missused for MagiskHide - all in all, no place for Shamiko in that context

That's why I suggested to move that discussion how to use work with Delta to the Delta specific thread
 
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zgfg

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Read notes.md it will show you what version of Magisk Canary is available.
True, but for that one must be somewhat familiar with GitHub, while newbies usually are not, and then they ask how this/how that/where is what, what to click, etc

Alll downloads (Stable, Beta, Canary, Debug) are easily, on TWO CLICKS, directly accessible from the Magisk app - see post #52425
 
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pndwal

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funny thing is 'shamiko doesn't work....'.
Just to clarify:

Shamiko basically restores MagiskHide (hides root traces from apps with reverting Magisk modifications) for Zygisk Magisk builds and needs Denylist Enforced disabled so Magisk modifications are not reverted/denied for listed apps... Since Delta integrates the same function and has already 'hijacked' the denylist for hide purposes when MagiskHide is enabled (read 'In Use'), there's a conflict... Shamiko hiding and Delta hiding are not compatible... PW
 
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I was using Denylist Unmount v0.2 along with USNF V2.3.1.. Momo v4.3.1 detected Zygisk. Replaced DLU by the new Shamiko (v0.5.1). Momo doesn't see Zygisk anymore.
For me (recently I learnt it's 2SI device - whatever it means😁 - ok, 2 Stage Init), nothing changed

Latest Momo with latest Shamiko (latest USNF, DenyList disabled) on latest Canary still detects su, Magisk and Zygisk

As TJW named, mast..tion device👍
 
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pndwal

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Related to which post exactly? In case it was mine, I read and understood every part of it.
Haha 😝... Suitably cryptic comment about fish prices...

It was in relation to
Sorry, I didn't decipher

It's Xiaomi Mi 11 Lite 5G NE, launched with MIUI 12.5, Android 11 - I didn't upgrade to A12, and running stock firmware (only Magisk and custom Recovery)

It's A/B device, with Recovery integrated to Boot, Magisk recognizes as Ramdisk Yes

2SI or not?
I answered and detailed the hallmarks of each Android boot-type (Legacy Ramdisk, Legacy SAR & 2SI "SAR"):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/magisk-general-support-discussion.3432382/post-87082683

Next post:
IMG_20220629_051832.jpg

... Just don't understand what this has to do with the price of fish... It tells me nothing...

Perhaps you could explain?... 🤪 PW
 
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J.Michael

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I am not sure where I am supposed to post this. I have a google pixel 6 pro rooted on android 13.3. I accidentally hit 'reboot to recovery' in magisk and I am stuck in a bootloop. I am able to get into fastboot mode but adb does not recognize my device. Device manager recognizes it as lemobile android device>android bootloader interface. I searched on here, the pixel 6 forum and just google but am not too sure what I should do. I don't know if I have a rogue module but I do not know how to uninstall it since I cannot find a twrp for the pixel 6 pro.

edit: I didn't realize it was 'fastboot devices' instead of 'adb devices'. I downloaded the android 13.3 factory image and am now installing via the 'flash-all' script. Hoping I don't run into any more problems.
Too late to be of help this time, but
I have seen people talk about using the "flash-all.bat" and they either add or delete a "-w" switch in order to *not* erase data.
 

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Please see my last post for further explanation...


so since you seem to have this issue, you still need to do this...

Known issue, but not a regression, so no further fixes will come... (Edit: Except this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/magisk-general-support-discussion.3432382/post-87068697 )

Basically, Direct install breaks due to previous Magisk injection method for 2SI being incompatible with new Magisk... It's more complicated in configurations where disabling verity/verification to boot is still required, but for most 2SI device users the solution is simply to do initial Patch and fasttboot flash original boot image again, thereby replacing the incompatible fstab-patched image...

🙃 PW
Bro, I formatted my data and everything and flashed disable dm verity force encrypt. After patching this file, I wasn't able to patch magisk.zip (I got the same error that I talked about in this thread."Unsupported boot image extra"). So I re-formatted my phone again and flashed magisk.zip only in twrp and it worked. But I want to disable force encryption in my device because I'm not able to access internal storage in twrp. Please I need help
 

J.Michael

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Bro, I formatted my data and everything and flashed disable dm verity force encrypt. After patching this file, I wasn't able to patch magisk.zip (I got the same error that I talked about in this thread."Unsupported boot image extra"). So I re-formatted my phone again and flashed magisk.zip only in twrp and it worked. But I want to disable force encryption in my device because I'm not able to access internal storage in twrp. Please I need help
Search the threads again. I think, after installing TWRP, you use TWRP to wipe data. And somewhere in there you say "do not encrypt".
 

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    I am from Ukraine and do not know English well, so I communicate through an interpreter and it makes it a lot harder to find information

    I understand completely, i have to use Firefox Addon to translate some russian android sites all the time, so something like this may make things easier, you can use it to translate an entire page or from a highlighted section of text via the right click menu


    And without getting too political (actually impossible not to) as a former infantry soldier, know theres plenty of us here in Australia would come to help if we could. The Ukrainian people have really shown their courage and determination, and may there be peace for you soon.
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    I understand completely, i have to use Firefox Addon to translate some russian android sites all the time, so something like this may make things easier, you can use it to translate an entire page or from a highlighted section of text via right click


    And without getting too political (actually impossible not to) as a former infantry soldier, know theres plenty of us here in Australia would come to help if we could. The Ukrainian people have really shown their courage and determination, and may there be peace for you soon.
    Thank you for your help and thank you for your kind words.
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    When I install the BusyBox-ndk-master module I get an error
    FYI (& others):

    Authors official releases are here:
    https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...tiple-devices-platforms.2239421/post-40409356

    He (@osm0sis) has myriad useful tools, scripts, flashable zips...

    For Busybox NDK, scroll to 3rd section, Flashable Installer Zips, and find Busybox Installer...

    I did everything as you said, but the errors are still the same
    Do you have Shamiko?... PW
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    But unfortunately the error remained even after installing the module

    Okay you only need one Busybox module, so disable (or uninstall) one of them

    Also you should install this module (if you havent already)


    and (almost certainly/usually) disable MagiskHide Props Config unless theres a specific reason you need it enabled

    Also i havent tested Deny List Unmount in a while, but Shamiko is an alternative (disable Enforce Deny List in Magisk -> Settings if you try this - making sure to disable DenyList Unmount first)


    and make sure you reboot after making any such changes

    theres a lot of modules for basic root hiding that do similar things (sometimes in different ways), but you cant have them all installed or active at once....so you have to pick 1 or the other


    you should probably also follow this thread, as its newer than the (legacy) magisk thread we're currently in, plus it also will have links to all the modules and latest info in the opening few posts:

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    It's not Samsung, It's a Nokia 5. no bootloop safe to say but It seems that you know something about this?

    edit : I want to add, It used to be working. I used Password screen lock before using Swipe screen lock, in Magisk 23.
    How did this issue start? Did it happen after upgrading magisk? Or you've updated your rom?
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    Can someone either provide actual proof that zygisk/shamiko etc does anything to GPS (i havent had a single issue and i use it daily) or i dunno, maybe stop spreading FUD because of personal gripes you have against people on other platforms that dont take part here, and therefore wont get any of the swipes youre taking at them here that only further add to the aforementioned FUD.

    We've all had our moments with those folk and its fine to mention the odd bit of spice you may come across when trying to submit an issue on github (ive done this myself), but to then to continually poison magisk proper/shamiko because of that person/persons taking part is not helping anyone. Thats a personal gripe, and shouldnt colour the entire magisk (proper) project/shamiko. What we dont need is spice here....

    Please, you know who you are...

    I think we've all had enough, now
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    How does PixelFlasher invoke boot_patch.sh?
    Does it invoke it as an "executable", creating a new process? Or does it "source" it, so changes to the environment will survive?

    Does PixelFlasher create an environment variable named "SHA1"?

    My copy of boot_patch.sh has a compound statement that tests whether SHA1 has a non-zero length value before setting it to the sha1 of the boot image. If the environment variable is already set, it will not be overwritten. I don't know why.
    I wouldn't source. The script is supposed to be called as an executable

    Eg, my following code is rather primitive but it dumps the active Boot partition (it supports A/B and non-A/B devices), then it patches by invoking the boot_patch.sh script, finally it dumps back to the Boot partition and automatically reboots

    Ie, it updates me the Magisk and it also leaves me the patched-boot img in the Download folder

    Code:
    #!/system/bin/sh
    
    # Boot partition
    AB=$(getprop ro.boot.slot_suffix)
    BOOT_PART=/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/boot"$AB"
    
    # Boot and patched boot images
    DOWNLOAD=/sdcard/Download/
    BOOT_IMG="$DOWNLOAD"boot.img
    PATCHED_BOOT_IMG="$DOWNLOAD"patched-boot.img
    
    # Magisk path
    MAGISK_PATH=/data/adb/magisk/
    
    # Disk-dump boot image to Download folder
    dd if="$BOOT_PART" of="$BOOT_IMG"
    
    # Patch the boot image and move to Download folder
    "$MAGISK_PATH"boot_patch.sh "$BOOT_IMG"
    mv "$MAGISK_PATH"new-boot.img "$PATCHED_BOOT_IMG"
    
    # Flash the patched boot image
    dd if="$PATCHED_BOOT_IMG" of="$BOOT_PART"
    
    # Reboot
    reboot
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    I'm using the systemless debloater module to degoogle and debloat a device (and several other magisk modules to assist in that endeavor). I'd really like to be able to do a factory reset to clear the device of any data/artifacts from the debloated apps, but of course a factory reset wipes out magisk modules, so I'm in a catch 22.
    You can do some cleaning like this:

    - Wipe (from TWRP or by root explorer like MiXPlorer)
    /data/dalwik-cache
    /data/system/package_cache

    -In MiXPlorer, go to three dots, Tools and clean by App Remnants

    -Install SD Maid:
    And clean by CorpsFinder option
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    I'm sorry I didn't realize that.

    I've been so used to generic steps (boot recovery -> flash recovery -> reboot recovery -> wipe all -> flash firmware -> flash ROM -> flash GApps -> flash dm-verity disabler -> boot system -> boot recovery -> flash Magisk -> flash *Posed) that I didn't bother checking if steps have changed.

    Therefore, neither.

    Honestly I think it's too bad that we can't just flash ZIPs anymore, that was so easy.

    Anyway, thank you for your response.
    For everyone, a bit of

    Insight into Custom Recovery installation method Depreciation:

    Yup... Method was fine for old legacy ramdisk booting devices, but does rely on custom recovery compatibility, and John ended up fielding the TWRP issues; plenty from official TWRP builds not to mention broken unofficial ones... Then Dees Troy needed to attend to real life and Team Win simply couldn't adapt to Google's ever changing system architecture, boot methods etc fast enough and lagged way behind Magisk. (See John's Android Booting Shenanigans)...

    This precipitated the move to an installation solution that doesn't rely on other custom development, but wasn't the only practical consideration; 'Manager' and now 'App' patching w/ fastboot (etc) flashing meant owners of
    devices with no custom recovery can start rooting and do further modification
    https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/magisk-the-magic-mask-for-android.3473445/post-72587983
    and users can also preserve stock recovery to apply OTAs etc... Thus 'Magisk Manual Injection' was born...

    Next, support was added for patching Samsung AP firmware which recovery/zip installation couldn't achieve. Then with Project Treble came efforts to
    update Magisk to be modular and adaptive to follow Google's Pixel concept... modding a device has changed completely. I am a strong advocate of these new changes, praising the effort Google has put into designing such weird but fascinating setup despite many view this as "moves against developers".

    With the announcement of Project Treble, all devices will go through the same "Pixel-ize" treatment, so this future is inevitable. Project Treble is all about "modular", and Magisk has been rewritten to embrace this concept. I have spent extra effort to backport the changes made requires to run on these new modern devices to downward support all devices, so we do not need 2 drastically different installation methods...
    https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/magisk-the-magic-mask-for-android.3473445/post-74961572
    ... and then 'recovery mode' support for many A-only legacy SAR devices (A9 / 2018) w/ ramdisk only in recovery partition (again not supported by recovery/zip installation)... And it is now noted:
    This installation method is deprecated and is maintained with minimum effort. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

    Installing using custom recoveries is only possible if your device has boot ramdisk.

    Installing Magisk through custom recoveries on modern devices is no longer recommended. If you face any issues, please use the proper Patch Image method.
    ...

    Note that even (old) legacy ramdisk boot-type devices are to be considered 'modern' once running Android 10+ as they are automatically converted to current 2SI "SAR" boot-type!...

    👀 PW
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    This is the place for general support and discussion regarding "Public Releases", which includes both stable and beta releases.
    All information, including troubleshoot guides and notes, are in the Announcement Thread
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    Hello, I haven't given much support on XDA lately. It can be resulted from
    • University started and I have limited free time. In fact, I mostly develop during midnight
    • I live in Taiwan, which has large time zone differences between my European/American contributors/testers, which usually forces me to stay up late at night to discuss/test stuffs.
    • The new version is about to come, I don't want to spend effort on supporting old releases
    The planned update is delayed again and again, to some point I think I'll shed some light about what has been happening lately, also along with some announcements.

    New Forum!
    As you might have already discovered, Magisk got its own subforum on XDA! Many thanks to all the support you gave me, and much more information/features/support is about to come!
    **For developers supporting all the devices that are not using standard Android boot format, feel free to create threads in this section (actually, PLEASE do so) for your favorite devices after v7 is out. As I currently know, Asus devices require signing the boot image before flashing, and is model dependant; Sony devices seems to use ELF kernel that is unpatchable, or some has two ramdisks (inner + outer), both requires different workarounds; LG bootloader locked devices has to manually "BUMP" the boot image after flashing Magisk..... and there may be lots of other crazy boot image formats that haven't come up to my attention yet.
    It is impossible for me to support all these non-standard boot images, and I hope the community can collaborate to make Magisk running across all the devices. Overall, community collaboration is what XDA about :D

    The Pixel Phone
    Some of you might already know this news, that the next Pixel Phone right around the corner seems like it does not have ramdisk in boot image, which pretty much wrecked Magisk in all ways. However, it pretty much doomed root itself too. Kernel modifications is inevitable IMO, so I'll try to migrate my scripts to C programs that could possibly be included into the kernel itself. Note that I'm not familiar with linux kernel, I'm not even sure if my idea and concept is correct or not. But once the device is available, I think developers will find a way to bypass all the difficulties, and I'll do my best to learn things ;)

    Current Progress
    In the past month, I've spent quite some time learning SELinux, so that I can avoid using SuperSU's sepolicy patches. Thanks to the helps and tips from @phhusson and @Chainfire, I finally have a much clearer understanding of how SELinux works. The Magisk core parts (the scripts, boot image patches, new features, more supports) are actually done some time ago. What is causing all the delays is the Magisk Manager.
    To be completely honest, although I can code in Java without much issues, Magisk Manager is actually my first Android application, I had to reach out for assistance, and fortunately awesome developers like @DVDandroid and @digitalhigh contributed a lot, which makes the current Manager awesome.
    After the repo system and module management is mostly done, I was about to do some adjustments and release, but what we really done is decided to add another feature: auto-unroot with per-app settings. I decided to wait for it to be finished, and then do my adjustments. Due to reasons that'll be mentioned later, this feature will likely not be available for the next release (should come in future updates)

    Safety Net Disaster
    Those who are using Magisk for Safety Net bypass purposes must have known that Google recently updated the detection method of my Systemless Xposed. I still have no idea what Safety Net is detecting, so currently I cannot fix it on my side (also because I'm busy working on the next update). However, suhide developed by @Chainfire is able to hide Xposed and worked fine.
    However, only my Systemless Xposed v86.2, which is based on SuperSU's su.d, is supported using that method. v86.2 and v86.5 (latest, Magisk based) have nearly identical binaries, and the only difference is the path where the binaries are stored.
    I'm still not sure what's the real issue for it not being supported, I just hope it is not done intentionally.

    Conclusion
    Due to the fact that my Safety Net bypass is not 100% perfect now, I do not want to spend any more time waiting for auto-unroot to be polished. What I'm doing now is finishing up all the things I'd like to change in Magisk Manager (it has been a while since I last contributed to Manager, my fellow developers are doing all the heavy job), which might take a little more time, after that, packed with tons of information to be announced in Magisk Section, I'll release the long awaited update.

    Hope this lengthy post gives you the idea of the whole situation, and again thanks for all your support!!
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    Ah, some Chainfire bashing, I hope it is not too late for me to exercise additional villainy.

    First, let me make clear I have nothing against @topjohnwu, nor against Magisk. Magisk is an interesting project and it certainly displays @topjohnwu ingenuity and persistence. I don't doubt we will see more interesting things from his hands.

    -------------------------

    What has happened here is not all that dark and complicated, from either end. I returned from holidays, and someone pointed me at Magisk. My first thought: interesting!

    Among other things, the thread lists some issues with SuperSU, which in combination with the phrase The developer also requests users to not bug Chainfire with compatibility requests for SuperSU with Magisk from the portal article, raised my left eyebrow by nigh half an inch. The popular systemless xposed mod is apparently now based on it, and apparently it now no longer works with SuperSU, and apparently I'm not supposed to fix that, nor any of the other found issues. I found that a bit weird. So yes, I have told @topjohnwu that I was a bit surprised he was posting about issues with SuperSU without notifying me about them (I can't fix or help fix issues I'm not aware of, after all).

    He's also spreading a modified version of the SuperSU package, which is not all that uncommon, nor necessarily a problem. I have not looked into what he modified, I only ran a few quick tests on one of my devices, and found some commonly used commands run as root to be broken. I have informed him of this as well.

    It appears the tool of choice for Magisk is phh's Superuser, because of some of the mentioned issues with SuperSU. That's fine by itself, but fixing issues in that superuser by incorporating SuperSU's binaries into it is a somewhat questionable practise. After all, SuperSU is a commercial closed-source package that helps pay for my dinner, and superuser is a direct competitor. I have informed him that I was surprised he did this without asking for permission. I have expressed similar surprise on him spreading a modified version of LiveBoot (which helps pay for a snack now and then).
    @topjohnwu has also stated that Magisk's scripts are largely influenced by mine (I have not checked). Scripts based on mine are used all over the place on XDA, some people have crafted amazing things based on them, I have never made an issue of this (otherwise I would have just made them binaries). But yes, I have also stated to him that I don't think it's very nice to base something on one program, and then using that to (almost exclusively) push something directly competing with that program.

    tl;dr Towards @topjohnwu, I have:
    - expressed surprise he has issues getting Magisk to work with SuperSU, and has chosen not to inform me about those
    - expressed surprise he is using SuperSU binaries in a competing superuser without permission
    - expressed surprise he is posting a modified LiveBoot without permission
    - informed him of issues with the modified SuperSU he has posted
    - let him know I thought it wasn't very nice to be applying my scripts to benefit seemingly exclusively that same competing superuser

    To be crystal clear:
    - I have not asked for an apology
    - I have not asked for Magisk to be abandoned, neither the root hiding nor systemless module parts, and certainly not systemless xposed
    - I have not made an issue of any of this anywhere, until this post
    - I have not even specifically asked for anything to be taken down (though obviously in my opinion the other superuser package mixed with SuperSU's binaries, as well as the LiveBoot package, should go)
    - I have not reported this thread to XDA moderators for copyright violations or otherwise

    While my conversation with @topjohnwu may not win any awards for being friendly (though it may win some for brevity), I think all things considered my response has been rather mild. To be perfectly honest, until the apology post, I thought this was over with already. I think the apology post was triggered because I haven't replied to his last PM for a while - I was in the zone, it happens.

    To emphasize again, I have nothing against @topjohnwu, Magisk, or systemless xposed, and it is certainly not my goal to see any of them go. If it can be made to work together with SuperSU, great.

    I get it though: you think of something, you want to see if you can make it work, you finally get it to work, you publish it, it takes off - enthusiasm gets the better of you. Maybe in the rush some mistakes are made. That doesn't mean you have to just drop it and run. None of my stuff would make it past 0.1 if I stopped at the first big mistake :)

    Aside from said being in the zone coding, I usually regret actually responding to these sort of things the day after, which has made me hesitant to reply. Surprise me.
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    Thread temporarily closed so everyone sees this.

    The flood of "SafetyNet isn't working for me either!" posts are not helpful, at all. Please refrain from posting further, it will be looked into. Please do not forget that not passing SafetyNet is 100% NORMAL AND INTENDED when you have an unlocked booloader or running custom firmware. These are workarounds and they will be worked around in turn.

    The Flash
    Forum Moderator

    EDIT: Thread is reopened... I will be cleaning any SafetyNet posts for a while to keep the thread clean for real issues.
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    Hello everyone!

    I am aware that Google has updated Safety Net that makes Magisk itself a no go for Android Pay. In fact, I witnessed the change live while I am developing the new magiskhide, which should hide all Magisk modules and Magisk installed root.

    Google is serious about Safety Net now, clearly hunting down all possibility to run Xposed with Safety Net passed. I spend quite some time examining the new security measures last midnight, and fortunately it seems that it is possible to run Magisk and root along with Safety Net if no Xposed is running. I'm glad I removed the old root toggle at the right time lol, that is no longer feasible with the latest detection.

    So stay tuned for the next update, it will come with bug fixes, along with the new magiskhide to bypass that Safety Net.

    Google, how will a few systemless mods do any harm :p:p