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meric57

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Bonjour, j'ai regardé dans les modules fox manager pour voir à quoi sert certain module.
Quelqu'un peut-il m'expliquer à quoi servent ces 4 modules que je vais citer et m'aider un peu avec mon souci de perte de magisk comme expliqué dans mes posts.
Assistant TRWP - gestionnaire de magisk pour le mode de récupération (mm) -SSH pour magisk - protecteur de boucle de démarrage magisk.
Je pense qui doit en avoir un ou plusieurs qui vont m'aider avec mon problème, non
 
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Bit confusing what you did... You extract and patch one boot image only; either boot.img (WITHOUT selecting Recovery mode) or recovery.img with Recovery mode set, NOT both! ... To access rooted system in recovery mode you will always need to boot via recovery with recovery key combo but release all buttons at splash screen to bypass recovery and boot to system with root...

Nb. Recovery mode means Magisk in recovery ramdisk... It has nothing to do with flashing via custom recovery (TWRP etc), and can't be flashed that way in any case...

In your case you can simply ignore Ramdisk = No! This is because Xiaomi bootloaders are (inexplicably) compatible with ramdisk in boot partition despite the OEM not installing one in A-Only legacy SAR devices, and Magisk always installs basic ramdisk where OEM Randisk is missing... (Magisk continues to display Ramdisk = No to indicate No OEM Ramdisk in boot.)

This means you extract and patch your boot.img (Ensure Recovery mode is NOT selected) and flash the resulting image to boot partition.

To fix you device, simply fastboot flash both unpatched boot.img and recovery.img then check device boots/operates normally again.

Next, ensure you have ROM package corresponding exactly to current running OS version and extract boot.img to patch/flash as above... Alternatively, you can install TWRP and make a backup of boot partition, obtain that from Backups and use this image. You may not even need to rename .win extension as .img, but can if you wish...

Please read John's Installation Instruction page carefully also because all necessary information is actually treated there...

Hope this helps... Please report results. 🙂 PW
i tried to flash stock boot.img adn TWRP.img but if i flash the TWRP (No Ramdisk) phone just loads in recovery, and i flashed the recovery with the recovery option, then via magisk i have patched boot (didn't flashed it by myself, magisk did)
 

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i tried to flash stock boot.img adn TWRP.img but if i flash the TWRP (No Ramdisk) phone just loads in recovery, and i flashed the recovery with the recovery option, then via magisk i have patched boot (didn't flashed it by myself, magisk did)
I don't really understand much of this... Is this stuff you've done since my response to you? Or before? 🤔
i tried to flash stock boot.img adn TWRP.img
Sorry, I have no idea what this means... What's 'adn'? 🤔
but if i flash the TWRP (No Ramdisk) phone just loads in recovery,
So are you trying to flash TWRP?... Why?... And what does 'phone just loads in recovery' mean?... 🤔
and i flashed the recovery with the recovery option,
What does 'flashed the recovery with the recovery option' mean?... Flashed TWRP with some option??... Or flashed a patched or stock recovery?... What 'option'?
then via magisk i have patched boot (didn't flashed it by myself, magisk did)
So you mean Direct Install did it?... So you must have had root already. (??)..

Anyway, did you try what I recommended?... Because it doesn't sound like it at all...

If you just do these parts:
In your case you can simply ignore Ramdisk = No! ...

This means you extract and patch your boot.img (Ensure Recovery mode is NOT selected) and flash the resulting image to boot partition.

To fix you device, simply fastboot flash both unpatched boot.img and recovery.img then check device boots/operates normally again.

Next, ensure you have ROM package corresponding exactly to current running OS version and extract boot.img to patch/flash as above...
you'll fix your issues... 🙃 PW
 
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Sorry, I have no idea what this means... What's 'adn'? 🤔
and* typo :|
So are you trying to flash TWRP?... Why?... And what does 'phone just loads in recovery' mean?... 🤔
my phone loading to recovery instead of rom
What does 'flashed the recovery with the recovery option' mean?... Flashed TWRP with some option??... Or flashed a patched or stock recovery?... What 'option'?
in the magisk i patched my "stock" TWRP with enabled "recovery mode"
So you mean Direct Install did it?... So you must have had root already. (??)..

Anyway, did you try what I recommended?... Because it doesn't sound like it at all... PW
i'm having the su perms, but i don't have any connection to internet (i'm making thoose all from notebook)
 
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and* typo :|

my phone loading to recovery instead of rom

in the magisk i patched my "stock" TWRP with enabled "recovery mode"

i'm having the su perms, but i don't have any connection to internet (i'm making thoose all from notebook)
I can't really follow what you've done, but seems you've patched and flashed both boot.img and TWRP.img or stock recovery.img...

Restore stock recovery or unpatched twrp for reasons I've given, then, without root, patch stock boot.img only and fastboot flash that...

I repeat, If you just do these parts:
In your case you can simply ignore Ramdisk = No! ...

This means you extract and patch your boot.img (Ensure Recovery mode is NOT selected) and flash the resulting image to boot partition.

To fix you device, simply fastboot flash both unpatched boot.img and recovery.img then check device boots/operates normally again.

Next, ensure you have ROM package corresponding exactly to current running OS version and extract boot.img to patch/flash as above...
you'll fix your issues... 🙃 PW
 
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I can't really follow what you've done, but seems you've patched and flashed both boot.img and TWRP.img or stock recovery.img...

Restore stock recovery or unpatched twrp for reasons I've given, then, without root, patch stock boot.img only and fastboot flash that...

I repeat, If you just do these parts:
as i said when i'm trying to flash stock TWRP (TWRP without ramdisk) my phone can't load to the crDroid
it's just booting into recovery
 

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as i said when i'm trying to flash stock TWRP (TWRP without ramdisk) my phone can't load to the crDroid
it's just booting into recovery
Ok, forgot you use custom crDroid... so fastboot BOTH TWRP and boot.img from crDroid (both unpatched) and see if system can boot again... Should be no issues now... If there is, try dirty-flashing crDroid ROM again...

Next, patch that same crDroid boot.img in Magisk App with Recovery Mode DE-SELECTED! (Boot mode, not Recovery mode) and flash from TWRP... System should then boot with root... PW
 
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Ok, forgot you use custom crDroid... so fastboot BOTH TWRP and boot.img from crDroid (both unpatched) and see if system can boot again... Should be no issues now... If there is, try dirty-flashing crDroid ROM again...
i have tried all of them, i don't know much about dirty-flashing, say how to do it
Next, patch that same crDroid boot.img in Magisk App with Recovery Mode DE-SELECTED! (Boot mode, not Recovery mode) and flash from TWRP... System should then boot with root... PW
i have patched the boot image like that you said it now, but i didn't got the su perms :(
 
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Hello, I looked in the fox manager modules to see what certain module is for.
Can someone explain to me what these 5 modules that I will mention are for and help me a little with my concern for the loss of magisk as explained in my posts.
TRWP helper- magisk manager for recovery mode(mm)-SSH for magisk- magisk bootloop protector.
I think who must have one or more who will help me with my problem, no
The bootloop protector works by disabling certain Magisk modules that may be causing the bootloop, and then re-enabling them one by one to identify the specific module that is causing the problem. Once the problematic module is identified, it can be removed or replaced, and the device should be able to boot normally.

With Magisk Manager for Recovery - if you end up with a bootloop, you can just disable the module from recovery. This app is used in a recovery terminal only (e.g. TWRP), not in Magisk by itself.
 
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The bootloop protector works by disabling certain Magisk modules that may be causing the bootloop, and then re-enabling them one by one to identify the specific module that is causing the problem. Once the problematic module is identified, it can be removed or replaced, and the device should be able to boot normally.

With Magisk Manager for Recovery - if you end up with a bootloop, you can just disable the module from recovery. This app is used in a recovery terminal only (e.g. TWRP), not in Magisk by itself.
woah, where you know that all?
 

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The bootloop protector works by disabling certain Magisk modules that may be causing the bootloop, and then re-enabling them one by one to identify the specific module that is causing the problem. Once the problematic module is identified, it can be removed or replaced, and the device should be able to boot normally.
IINM, it disables all modules after (and denylist?) after several failed boot attempts (loops) similar to invoking safe mode but automatically/more reliably... Then user needs to enable selectively again...
With Magisk Manager for Recovery - if you end up with a bootloop, you can just disable the module(s) from recovery. This app is used in a recovery terminal only (e.g. TWRP), not in Magisk by itself.

👍 PW
 
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IINM, it disables all modules after (and denylist?) after several failed boot attempts (loops) similar to invoking safe mode but automatically/more reliably... Then user needs to enable selectively again...
There is also the SystemUI Bootloop Protector that in theory, fixes SystemUI bootloops by detecting when SystemUI crashes (due to a Magisk module such as Substratum,) and reboots your device into safe mode automatically to disable Magisk so you can correct the faulty module.
 
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i have tried all of them, i don't know much about dirty-flashing, say how to do it
Just means flashing ROM without data wipes / factory reset... Clean flash means at least factory reset wipes, sometimes formatting data / other partitions first...
i have patched the boot image like that you said it now, but i didn't got the su perms :(
Try reflashing ROM dirty... Flash unpatched TWRP if ROM doesn't include recovery partition...

Could be an issue with crDroid ROM but doubtful... Pretty sure patching/flashing boot will work for stock Olive... PW
 
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Just means flashing ROM without data wipes / factory reset... Clean flash means at least factory reset wipes, sometimes formatting data / other partitions first...
who
Try reflashing ROM dirty... Flash unpatched TWRP if ROM doesn't include recovery partition...
who x2
Could be an issue with crDroid ROM but doubtful... Pretty sure patching/flashing boot will work for stock Olive... PW
bro, i'm just losed my wifi or i'm a bit (yeah, yeah bit) dumb
 

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Hello, I looked in the fox manager modules to see what certain module is for.
Can someone explain to me what these 5 modules that I will mention are for and help me a little with my concern for the loss of magisk as explained in my posts.
TRWP helper- magisk manager for recovery mode(mm)-SSH for magisk- magisk bootloop protector.
I think who must have one or more who will help me with my problem, no
In the Fox MM, scroll to the given module, click on Description, it will open the GitHub page for that module

Developers usually try to put some helpful description what for the module is and how it works.
If useful description is missing, skip the module
 

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    Ah, some Chainfire bashing, I hope it is not too late for me to exercise additional villainy.

    First, let me make clear I have nothing against @topjohnwu, nor against Magisk. Magisk is an interesting project and it certainly displays @topjohnwu ingenuity and persistence. I don't doubt we will see more interesting things from his hands.

    -------------------------

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    He's also spreading a modified version of the SuperSU package, which is not all that uncommon, nor necessarily a problem. I have not looked into what he modified, I only ran a few quick tests on one of my devices, and found some commonly used commands run as root to be broken. I have informed him of this as well.

    It appears the tool of choice for Magisk is phh's Superuser, because of some of the mentioned issues with SuperSU. That's fine by itself, but fixing issues in that superuser by incorporating SuperSU's binaries into it is a somewhat questionable practise. After all, SuperSU is a commercial closed-source package that helps pay for my dinner, and superuser is a direct competitor. I have informed him that I was surprised he did this without asking for permission. I have expressed similar surprise on him spreading a modified version of LiveBoot (which helps pay for a snack now and then).
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    - expressed surprise he has issues getting Magisk to work with SuperSU, and has chosen not to inform me about those
    - expressed surprise he is using SuperSU binaries in a competing superuser without permission
    - expressed surprise he is posting a modified LiveBoot without permission
    - informed him of issues with the modified SuperSU he has posted
    - let him know I thought it wasn't very nice to be applying my scripts to benefit seemingly exclusively that same competing superuser

    To be crystal clear:
    - I have not asked for an apology
    - I have not asked for Magisk to be abandoned, neither the root hiding nor systemless module parts, and certainly not systemless xposed
    - I have not made an issue of any of this anywhere, until this post
    - I have not even specifically asked for anything to be taken down (though obviously in my opinion the other superuser package mixed with SuperSU's binaries, as well as the LiveBoot package, should go)
    - I have not reported this thread to XDA moderators for copyright violations or otherwise

    While my conversation with @topjohnwu may not win any awards for being friendly (though it may win some for brevity), I think all things considered my response has been rather mild. To be perfectly honest, until the apology post, I thought this was over with already. I think the apology post was triggered because I haven't replied to his last PM for a while - I was in the zone, it happens.

    To emphasize again, I have nothing against @topjohnwu, Magisk, or systemless xposed, and it is certainly not my goal to see any of them go. If it can be made to work together with SuperSU, great.

    I get it though: you think of something, you want to see if you can make it work, you finally get it to work, you publish it, it takes off - enthusiasm gets the better of you. Maybe in the rush some mistakes are made. That doesn't mean you have to just drop it and run. None of my stuff would make it past 0.1 if I stopped at the first big mistake :)

    Aside from said being in the zone coding, I usually regret actually responding to these sort of things the day after, which has made me hesitant to reply. Surprise me.
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    Thread temporarily closed so everyone sees this.

    The flood of "SafetyNet isn't working for me either!" posts are not helpful, at all. Please refrain from posting further, it will be looked into. Please do not forget that not passing SafetyNet is 100% NORMAL AND INTENDED when you have an unlocked booloader or running custom firmware. These are workarounds and they will be worked around in turn.

    The Flash
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    Hello everyone!

    I am aware that Google has updated Safety Net that makes Magisk itself a no go for Android Pay. In fact, I witnessed the change live while I am developing the new magiskhide, which should hide all Magisk modules and Magisk installed root.

    Google is serious about Safety Net now, clearly hunting down all possibility to run Xposed with Safety Net passed. I spend quite some time examining the new security measures last midnight, and fortunately it seems that it is possible to run Magisk and root along with Safety Net if no Xposed is running. I'm glad I removed the old root toggle at the right time lol, that is no longer feasible with the latest detection.

    So stay tuned for the next update, it will come with bug fixes, along with the new magiskhide to bypass that Safety Net.

    Google, how will a few systemless mods do any harm :p:p