To me, "the process" is not clear... I assumed this meant installing Magisk to hide the rooted status, and you hiding the rooted status itself... Some clarification from the member would certainly help... PW
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Thanks. So no need to run this command.
I have a Pixel 6A.
adb shell ls -l /dev/block/by-name shows me that it has vbmeta_a AND vbmeta_b partition.
Would be this right?
fastboot flash boot_ab magisk_patched-[random_strings].img
OR
fastboot flash boot magisk_patched-[random_strings].img
XDA tutorial here (https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-unlock-bootloader-root-magisk-google-pixel-6a/) write fastboot flash boot magisk_patched-[random_strings].img
Don't know what is right and what is wrong now.
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The latter method should always work (flashes current slot)... You shouldn't ever need the former option AFAIK (so it's not even mentioned in Installation Instruction page).
Flashing to inactive slot is only really used to preserve Magisk through an OTA and for devices supporting this a user flashes OTA and immediately uses inbuilt Magisk function (go to Magisk app → Install → Install to Inactive Slot) to install Magisk to the updated slot before any reboot (which swaps active slot) per:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/ota.md#devices-with-ab-partitions
Nb. Install to Inactive Slot preservation method is broken some for late Pixel 6 series updates and for Pixel 7 series (and likely other devices by now) apparently due to new update engine partition digest checks marking installation w/ Magisk as corrupted before it will boot... It seems Magisk can still overcome this (overwrite accepted digest calculations) with some device/update combinations so users may be able to use this feature... Mileage is inconsistent but most are finding usually fails ATM it seems...
PW
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Thanks. So like the XDA-Instruction page said I need reflash bootloader and reroot Magisk/ Pixel 6A after every OTA of LineageOS 20/ Stock-ROM?The latter method should always work (flashes current slot)... You shouldn't ever need the former option AFAIK (so it's not even mentioned in Installation Instruction page).
Flashing to inactive slot is only really used to preserve Magisk through an OTA and for devices supporting this a user flashes OTA and immediately uses inbuilt Magisk function (go to Magisk app → Install → Install to Inactive Slot) to install Magisk to the updated slot before any reboot (which swaps active slot) per:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/ota.md#devices-with-ab-partitions
Nb. Install to Inactive Slot preservation method is broken for late Pixel 6 series updates and for Pixel 7 series (and likely other devices by now) due to new update engine partition digest checks marking installation w/ Magisk as corrupted before it will boot...
Not completely broken as I explained here. More like hit or miss.Nb. Install to Inactive Slot preservation method is broken for late Pixel 6 series updates and for Pixel 7 series (and likely other devices by now) due to new update engine partition digest checks marking installation w/ Magisk as corrupted before it will boot...
Not sure what you mean here... If you mean unlock, then no... That's a one time thing unless you/your flashing software relocks it...
Late LOS should preserve Magisk when updating from booted system as it supports addon.d v2 survival script.. Nb. this is a different Magisk preservation feature, maintained in Magisk by @osm0sis, only for custom ROMs...
You could try OTA preserve Magisk method if you're game (some still have success) but this no longer works consistently as mentioned above...
Most find they need to return images to stock, take OTA and reboot to new slot, then do initial root again as root was lost...
PW
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Ah yes... It's the Alzheimer's you see...
I've edited my posts above... Thanks!
Pinging @ephemunch...
Alzheimers Magisk modders chant:
"What do we want? Better Magisk hiding!.... When do we want it........
Wait... when do we want what?..."
PW
Unfortunately, it's kind of a trap and nobody reads in advance but later asks for help when in trouble
There are numerous posts during the last weeks that support for systemless modules (incl. Systemless hosts) is broken in Canary v25210, and the posts with instructions how to download and roll back (to avoid repeating the whole story)
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Hello there,
my danish authority app "MitID" is stating that it is detecting a root.
Because of that I removed everything already 3 months ago and all was fine.
Now today, I had to face that MitID for some reason was stating I'm rooted.
Applist Detector which I still had installed, now for some reason states, that some "Sundry API from Magisk could be found"
Anyone here who has a suggestion what that means and how I perhaps am able to fix that?
Already thanks in advance
Regards
Pierre
my danish authority app "MitID" is stating that it is detecting a root.
Because of that I removed everything already 3 months ago and all was fine.
Now today, I had to face that MitID for some reason was stating I'm rooted.
Applist Detector which I still had installed, now for some reason states, that some "Sundry API from Magisk could be found"
Anyone here who has a suggestion what that means and how I perhaps am able to fix that?
Already thanks in advance
Regards
Pierre
Screenshot tells that Applist Detector finds com.topjohnwu.magisk
- that is the Magisk app (you have to hide it by HMA)
However, no guarantee that it's the same what your MitID is complaining about (MitID maybe looks for something totally different, and/or you hid Magisk app from MitID but not from Applist Detector, etc)
Make sure you pass Basic and Device Integrity by Play Integrity API (that's not SafetyNet) and that MitID is in DenyList
Hey there, thanks for your reply.
Yea, but the weird thing is, that magisk app isn't installed anymore. and com.topjohnwu.magisk isn't being detected anywhere else.
The phone is unrootet.
and yea, MitID is prone to detect other things that might be the issue.
though the “PM Sundry API” was the only suspicious thing that came in my mind, hehe
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The phone is not rooted?
Did you really fully uninstall Magisk or just Magisk app (Magisk app is only the UI interface, like a manager)?
As I asked, make sure to pass Basic and Device Integrity by Play Integrity API checker (find on Playstore, you don't need Magisk to install from PlayStore and to test)
But you will not pass if your Bootloader is unlocked (uninstalling Magisk is not enough, you must not have custom ROM and you have to re-lock Bootloader)
Banking and similar apps first of all test Play Integrity - if you don't pass Play Integrity, do not expect your MitID would work
Magisk is fully uninstalled. I usually have two boot images one stock and one rooted, which I swap around after needs. But I got to lazy and just went unrooted for a while now.
But good that u mention regarding Safety Net. I completely forgot about that part, that an unlocked bootloader makes it fail.
Thanks for your responses.
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Hey!
OnePlus 7 Pro | Oxygen 10.3.7.
Please, tell me how to be :C
Magisk was installed, and the Magisk manager (canary) was hidden by a version a little newer than 24314, then it pulled me in the manager itself to click update it, as a result, when it started, there was an endless dash "Update Magisk to complete the installation. Continue?" , and there was no access to it. I deleted it (I didn’t look at the version), now which of the canary / beta / stable I don’t try to install, he doesn’t see any root rights for the phone, that is, it writes that Magisk is not installed. How to be in such a situation?
Also i ll could try to unistall Magisk in TWRP , but i dosent know what a version of Magisk i have rn to use Unistall.zip, and i saw same situation at other forums , but reinstall magisk in TWRP doesnt help , cos hidden version doesnt same as regular , and when you did it it ll look like a 2 magisk at the same time or doesnt work at all :C
OnePlus 7 Pro | Oxygen 10.3.7.
Please, tell me how to be :C
Magisk was installed, and the Magisk manager (canary) was hidden by a version a little newer than 24314, then it pulled me in the manager itself to click update it, as a result, when it started, there was an endless dash "Update Magisk to complete the installation. Continue?" , and there was no access to it. I deleted it (I didn’t look at the version), now which of the canary / beta / stable I don’t try to install, he doesn’t see any root rights for the phone, that is, it writes that Magisk is not installed. How to be in such a situation?
Also i ll could try to unistall Magisk in TWRP , but i dosent know what a version of Magisk i have rn to use Unistall.zip, and i saw same situation at other forums , but reinstall magisk in TWRP doesnt help , cos hidden version doesnt same as regular , and when you did it it ll look like a 2 magisk at the same time or doesnt work at all :C
Read a thousand posts. If only to learn what words people use in this thread.
Did you ever have Magisk installed? Stop looking for a way to uninstall Magisk. Look for your hidden Magisk manager app and delete *that*. Try rebooting. That might install a stub app for you -- since you don't know what version of Magisk you installed, noone can tell you for certain what its capabilities are.
Try running "magisk --help" from a command prompt in a terminal window on the phone. That might tell you if you have Magisk installed, and what version.
folks,
thanks for your advice.
downgrade from alpha to 25.2 was succesful. First, I installed the app (25.2) , then booted into TWR. Finally, I flashed the zip file of 25.2.
One detail I missed was the fact that both managers, alpha and stable, were running simultaneously. I was under the impression that the installation of the stable apk would replace/overwrite the running alpha apk.
I did not wipe the config.
/data/adb/magisk.db remained untouched.
thx again.
thanks for your advice.
downgrade from alpha to 25.2 was succesful. First, I installed the app (25.2) , then booted into TWR. Finally, I flashed the zip file of 25.2.
One detail I missed was the fact that both managers, alpha and stable, were running simultaneously. I was under the impression that the installation of the stable apk would replace/overwrite the running alpha apk.
I did not wipe the config.
/data/adb/magisk.db remained untouched.
thx again.
Just updated TB Checker on two my phones (Canary and Delta), I have everything configured as previously (HMA, etc) and it still works for me (passing all, except Strong and Virtual Integrity - hence, all ok for me)
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You are not supposed to "hide all apps", you are generally advised to hide as few apps as possible; hide an app only when necessary.
I don't know whether "hide all apps from google" means "hide from Google all apps" or "hide any app you think was produced by Google", but both are bad ideas.
In particular, hiding some Google processes can cripple Android.
There have been posts about USNF or Shamiko (not necessarily both, I just don't remember the details) removing some Google process from the deny list because it (the module, USNF or Shamiko) handled that process specially. I do not remember reading about those other processes you say are getting unticked. -
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Thanks, I realize it is only needed for custom Kernel cases.
I should add extracting vbmeta from payload.bin then in addition to boot.img / init_boot.img so that the step can be performed if the options are selected.7
You might be interested in this.
If you are using the current Magisk canary build, addon.d support was fixed.
A few weeks ago, I tested it on my Pixel 3a and made a post in The Age of Zygisk thread.
Post #3,128
Since I did not install Magisk via recovery, I made a module that overlays Magisk's addon.d script into the system/addon.d directory.
The module is not necessary after the first OTA.
- The OTA updater will actually restore the Magisk script into system with the others.
Magisk Survival Module - [GitHub] - Link
Please read all of the readme if you decide to use it.
- This only works with addon.d-v2 (A/B slot devices).
Cheers.
PS.
I have updated my 3a using the OTA updater 4/5 times now and Magisk is retained each time.
No need to manually patch and flash the new boot image after update.7
Others have already addressed your question, but for me, the biggest benefit here is to have a safety valve in place where your inactive slot is bootable (without first having to flash the firmware) in case you get into a hairy situation where your active slot becomes unbootable for whatever reason. May be useful in some situations.6
Your wish is my commandI think it would be good to support, and I posted disambiguation due to some confusion above.
Rather than being 'highly discouraged' (it's not; it's plum necessary
) patching recovery partition is actually the only option for most A-only devices launched with Android 9 (legacy SAR, circa 2018, 2019) other than Xiaomi models!
Hope you reconsider...
PW
Although with one caveat,
Yes I can tell if it is Ramdisk yes or no by running a script, but that requires unpacked Magisk, (for not rooted phone, I would need to unpack)
And although it is true that PF eventually unpacks to create a patch, but within the workflow, that stage is much later, and that stage is dependent on choices a user makes in the above screen.
Of course it could be worked out and workflow changed to automatically offer / not offer the choice.
Considering that the target audience is really minute if at all existent, specially considering that the tool has Pixel in its name, and people who have Pixel phone don't need it, and people who need them wouldn't be looking to tools for Pixel Phones ... lol
I decided the leave it up to the user the choice to have that option visible or not. (no auto detection)
The tooltip on option suggests not to turn it on unless ...
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1094This is the place for general support and discussion regarding "Public Releases", which includes both stable and beta releases.
All information, including troubleshoot guides and notes, are in the Announcement Thread156Hello, I haven't given much support on XDA lately. It can be resulted from
- University started and I have limited free time. In fact, I mostly develop during midnight
- I live in Taiwan, which has large time zone differences between my European/American contributors/testers, which usually forces me to stay up late at night to discuss/test stuffs.
- The new version is about to come, I don't want to spend effort on supporting old releases
New Forum!
As you might have already discovered, Magisk got its own subforum on XDA! Many thanks to all the support you gave me, and much more information/features/support is about to come!
**For developers supporting all the devices that are not using standard Android boot format, feel free to create threads in this section (actually, PLEASE do so) for your favorite devices after v7 is out. As I currently know, Asus devices require signing the boot image before flashing, and is model dependant; Sony devices seems to use ELF kernel that is unpatchable, or some has two ramdisks (inner + outer), both requires different workarounds; LG bootloader locked devices has to manually "BUMP" the boot image after flashing Magisk..... and there may be lots of other crazy boot image formats that haven't come up to my attention yet.
It is impossible for me to support all these non-standard boot images, and I hope the community can collaborate to make Magisk running across all the devices. Overall, community collaboration is what XDA about
The Pixel Phone
Some of you might already know this news, that the next Pixel Phone right around the corner seems like it does not have ramdisk in boot image, which pretty much wrecked Magisk in all ways. However, it pretty much doomed root itself too. Kernel modifications is inevitable IMO, so I'll try to migrate my scripts to C programs that could possibly be included into the kernel itself. Note that I'm not familiar with linux kernel, I'm not even sure if my idea and concept is correct or not. But once the device is available, I think developers will find a way to bypass all the difficulties, and I'll do my best to learn things
Current Progress
In the past month, I've spent quite some time learning SELinux, so that I can avoid using SuperSU's sepolicy patches. Thanks to the helps and tips from @phhusson and @Chainfire, I finally have a much clearer understanding of how SELinux works. The Magisk core parts (the scripts, boot image patches, new features, more supports) are actually done some time ago. What is causing all the delays is the Magisk Manager.
To be completely honest, although I can code in Java without much issues, Magisk Manager is actually my first Android application, I had to reach out for assistance, and fortunately awesome developers like @DVDandroid and @digitalhigh contributed a lot, which makes the current Manager awesome.
After the repo system and module management is mostly done, I was about to do some adjustments and release, but what we really done is decided to add another feature: auto-unroot with per-app settings. I decided to wait for it to be finished, and then do my adjustments. Due to reasons that'll be mentioned later, this feature will likely not be available for the next release (should come in future updates)
Safety Net Disaster
Those who are using Magisk for Safety Net bypass purposes must have known that Google recently updated the detection method of my Systemless Xposed. I still have no idea what Safety Net is detecting, so currently I cannot fix it on my side (also because I'm busy working on the next update). However, suhide developed by @Chainfire is able to hide Xposed and worked fine.
However, only my Systemless Xposed v86.2, which is based on SuperSU's su.d, is supported using that method. v86.2 and v86.5 (latest, Magisk based) have nearly identical binaries, and the only difference is the path where the binaries are stored.
I'm still not sure what's the real issue for it not being supported, I just hope it is not done intentionally.
Conclusion
Due to the fact that my Safety Net bypass is not 100% perfect now, I do not want to spend any more time waiting for auto-unroot to be polished. What I'm doing now is finishing up all the things I'd like to change in Magisk Manager (it has been a while since I last contributed to Manager, my fellow developers are doing all the heavy job), which might take a little more time, after that, packed with tons of information to be announced in Magisk Section, I'll release the long awaited update.
Hope this lengthy post gives you the idea of the whole situation, and again thanks for all your support!!121Ah, some Chainfire bashing, I hope it is not too late for me to exercise additional villainy.
First, let me make clear I have nothing against @topjohnwu, nor against Magisk. Magisk is an interesting project and it certainly displays @topjohnwu ingenuity and persistence. I don't doubt we will see more interesting things from his hands.
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What has happened here is not all that dark and complicated, from either end. I returned from holidays, and someone pointed me at Magisk. My first thought: interesting!
Among other things, the thread lists some issues with SuperSU, which in combination with the phrase The developer also requests users to not bug Chainfire with compatibility requests for SuperSU with Magisk from the portal article, raised my left eyebrow by nigh half an inch. The popular systemless xposed mod is apparently now based on it, and apparently it now no longer works with SuperSU, and apparently I'm not supposed to fix that, nor any of the other found issues. I found that a bit weird. So yes, I have told @topjohnwu that I was a bit surprised he was posting about issues with SuperSU without notifying me about them (I can't fix or help fix issues I'm not aware of, after all).
He's also spreading a modified version of the SuperSU package, which is not all that uncommon, nor necessarily a problem. I have not looked into what he modified, I only ran a few quick tests on one of my devices, and found some commonly used commands run as root to be broken. I have informed him of this as well.
It appears the tool of choice for Magisk is phh's Superuser, because of some of the mentioned issues with SuperSU. That's fine by itself, but fixing issues in that superuser by incorporating SuperSU's binaries into it is a somewhat questionable practise. After all, SuperSU is a commercial closed-source package that helps pay for my dinner, and superuser is a direct competitor. I have informed him that I was surprised he did this without asking for permission. I have expressed similar surprise on him spreading a modified version of LiveBoot (which helps pay for a snack now and then).
@topjohnwu has also stated that Magisk's scripts are largely influenced by mine (I have not checked). Scripts based on mine are used all over the place on XDA, some people have crafted amazing things based on them, I have never made an issue of this (otherwise I would have just made them binaries). But yes, I have also stated to him that I don't think it's very nice to base something on one program, and then using that to (almost exclusively) push something directly competing with that program.
tl;dr Towards @topjohnwu, I have:
- expressed surprise he has issues getting Magisk to work with SuperSU, and has chosen not to inform me about those
- expressed surprise he is using SuperSU binaries in a competing superuser without permission
- expressed surprise he is posting a modified LiveBoot without permission
- informed him of issues with the modified SuperSU he has posted
- let him know I thought it wasn't very nice to be applying my scripts to benefit seemingly exclusively that same competing superuser
To be crystal clear:
- I have not asked for an apology
- I have not asked for Magisk to be abandoned, neither the root hiding nor systemless module parts, and certainly not systemless xposed
- I have not made an issue of any of this anywhere, until this post
- I have not even specifically asked for anything to be taken down (though obviously in my opinion the other superuser package mixed with SuperSU's binaries, as well as the LiveBoot package, should go)
- I have not reported this thread to XDA moderators for copyright violations or otherwise
While my conversation with @topjohnwu may not win any awards for being friendly (though it may win some for brevity), I think all things considered my response has been rather mild. To be perfectly honest, until the apology post, I thought this was over with already. I think the apology post was triggered because I haven't replied to his last PM for a while - I was in the zone, it happens.
To emphasize again, I have nothing against @topjohnwu, Magisk, or systemless xposed, and it is certainly not my goal to see any of them go. If it can be made to work together with SuperSU, great.
I get it though: you think of something, you want to see if you can make it work, you finally get it to work, you publish it, it takes off - enthusiasm gets the better of you. Maybe in the rush some mistakes are made. That doesn't mean you have to just drop it and run. None of my stuff would make it past 0.1 if I stopped at the first big mistake
Aside from said being in the zone coding, I usually regret actually responding to these sort of things the day after, which has made me hesitant to reply. Surprise me.76Thread temporarily closed so everyone sees this.
The flood of "SafetyNet isn't working for me either!" posts are not helpful, at all. Please refrain from posting further, it will be looked into. Please do not forget that not passing SafetyNet is 100% NORMAL AND INTENDED when you have an unlocked booloader or running custom firmware. These are workarounds and they will be worked around in turn.
The Flash
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EDIT: Thread is reopened... I will be cleaning any SafetyNet posts for a while to keep the thread clean for real issues.75Hello everyone!
I am aware that Google has updated Safety Net that makes Magisk itself a no go for Android Pay. In fact, I witnessed the change live while I am developing the new magiskhide, which should hide all Magisk modules and Magisk installed root.
Google is serious about Safety Net now, clearly hunting down all possibility to run Xposed with Safety Net passed. I spend quite some time examining the new security measures last midnight, and fortunately it seems that it is possible to run Magisk and root along with Safety Net if no Xposed is running. I'm glad I removed the old root toggle at the right time lol, that is no longer feasible with the latest detection.
So stay tuned for the next update, it will come with bug fixes, along with the new magiskhide to bypass that Safety Net.
Google, how will a few systemless mods do any harm
PW
