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It was mentioned previously that TJW stopped maintaining the Repo. For that reason, Magisk Alpha has no more Repo in the UI

You will need to find and download the modules manually (and install from storage) - and save it yourself locally for future

I'm using Magisk 23.0 (21). I actually do want to install a module from storage, but when I do that it does not show any files. That's my question - how to fix Install from Storage not showing any files.
 
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I'm using Magisk 23.0 (21). I actually do want to install a module from storage, but when I do that it does not show any files. That's my question - how to fix Install from Storage not showing any files.
Ok, I'm no more running Stable or Canary (but mAlpha) hence I don't know if modules are still visible in Repo

If they are, you can take Dowload instead of Install (play with the icons), it will download to your Download folder.
Then, on top of the Modules window in Magisk app, you have Install from the storage option
 
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I'm using Magisk 23.0 (21). I actually do want to install a module from storage, but when I do that it does not show any files. That's my question - how to fix Install from Storage not showing any files.
I'm not sure where you are, but your screenshot says "Recent". Maybe one of the buttons will let you navigate away from "Recent", and then wander to what you call "Storage". (What does the menu offer?)
 
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Hi, I have Magisk installed and working. However I want to install something from storage. When I do that, I see "No Items". I can't select the download folder.

I'm running Android 11/LOS 18.1/Edxposed/xPrivacyLUA. Magisk is not restricted.

What might I be missing?

Thanks!
Install from storage shows no files for me either, but it shows additional apps that allow me to select a file. See screenshot. Android 11/LOS 18.1/Magisk 23.0/Pixel 3. I think the problem is you are not seeing the additional apps.
 

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Turned back today to Riru-Momohider:

1) By enabling "isolated", Magisk Detector does no more find su in the path.
Good stuff!
Strange thing, it does no more report if Magisk Hide works fine or not (without, it always reported that Magisk Hide worked fine).
This is actually better; no report means 'MagiskHide' (/'MagiskDeny') is not detected...
Everything else is ok (root, Zygisk, SafetyNet, stability, LSPosed, etc) - hence I will keep that configuration (this was the first time for me to succeed masking the su in the path)
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Btw, canyie on his Riru-Momohider page recommends against "isolated" but I was kicked to test with by a post on Alpha Telegram channel where the "isolated" option was also praised as good for use
Yeah, just saw those posts too... Not sure canyie 'recommends against', but notes pitfalls:
This feature is deprecated because it will unmount Magisk modified files for every isolated processes, and the unmounting time cannot be well controlled, which may cause some modules to not work. For almost apps, Magisk Alpha or the latest Magisk canary + Riru-Unshare is enough.

setns

Faster new way to hide Magisk in isolated processes. Requires config "isolated" is enabled.
https://github.com/canyie/Riru-MomoHider#background
2) I can not prevent Magisk Detector to detect the modified init.rc - even if I enable "initrc" for Riru-Momohider
You may see 'init.rc has not been modified...' sporadically.

Canyie says this result is unreliable (detects 'init.rc modified' even when Magisk isn't installed!):
https://github.com/canyie/Riru-MomoHider/issues/12#issuecomment-907718098
3) By enabling "setns" in Riru-Momohider, my phone becomes irresponsive upon reboot (it took me 7-10 minutes for weather widgets to load, 3-5 minutes to pass SafetyNet, etc)

4) With "app_zygote_magic" I got system crashes when running Magisk Detector or momo app and upon (soft) reboot Zygisk was no more active
Reflects my results running with Zygisk.

initrc is fine, but I hadn't previously tried isolated w/o setns...
Btw, none of the four options for Riru-momohider make any help for the momo app - it still detects even that Bootloader is unlocked
👍 PW
 
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Install from storage shows no files for me either, but it shows additional apps that allow me to select a file. See screenshot. Android 11/LOS 18.1/Magisk 23.0/Pixel 3. I think the problem is you are not seeing the additional apps.
Great clue, thank you!!

Temporarily disabling XPrivacyLua in EdXposed allowed me to see those apps and install what I needed.
 
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Good stuff!

This is actually better; no report means 'MagiskHide' (/'MagiskDeny') is not detected...

👍

Yeah, just saw those posts too... Not sure canyie 'recommends against', but notes pitfalls:

https://github.com/canyie/Riru-MomoHider#background

You may see 'init.rc has not been modified...' sporadically.

Canyie says this result is unreliable (detects 'init.rc modified' even when Magisk isn't installed!):
https://github.com/canyie/Riru-MomoHider/issues/12#issuecomment-907718098

Reflects my results running with Zygisk.

initrc is fine, but I hadn't previously tried isolated w/o setns...

👍 PW
Yeah, I know that for you init.rc modifications are randomly detected and not.
But for me it's deterministic, Magisk Detector always reports init.rc modifications (and no matter what I tried with Momohider, Unshare or without them).
And believe me, I test SN, Magisk Detector and Zygisk/Riru Detectors every day, sometimes couple of times
 

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Install from storage shows no files for me either, but it shows additional apps that allow me to select a file. See screenshot. Android 11/LOS 18.1/Magisk 23.0/Pixel 3. I think the problem is you are not seeing the additional apps.
Tap on the hamburger menu at the top left of that screen. You can then navigate to your internal storage (in my screen shot it's OnePlus 8T, as that's my phone)
 

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Yeah, I know that for you init.rc modifications are randomly detected and not.
But for me it's deterministic, Magisk Detector always reports init.rc modifications (and no matter what I tried with Momohider, Unshare or without them).
And believe me, I test SN, Magisk Detector and Zygisk/Riru Detectors every day, sometimes couple of times
Have you tried when Magisk is not installed?

... Random / sporadic 'init.rc has not been modified' result may not actually be material.

Canyie seems be fairly certain his module is working to hide init.rc, and that "It's MagiskDetector's issue", stating that it returns 'init.rc has been modified by Magisk' when Magisk is not even installed.

Seems we simply don't have a reliable detector for this.

FWIW, I've only had Passed result for this a few times. IIRC, never when I was actively experimenting / rebooting; only after leaving it entirely alone for some time I'd notice it was suddenly saying 'not modified'.

When I cleared Detectors data and rebooted it was 'modified by Magisk' again and no intervention / efforts would restore 'not modified' other than leaving it for some weeks... 😬 PW
 
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Hi

I do not know if here is the right place, but as it is about Magisk ... Anyway I ask the administrators to move the topic to the appropriate place .

I rooted my Phone Galaxy M12 according to this topic.

I was not worried because when I installed it, it was not mentioned that Knox would be burned ...

I used for some time the phone until yesterday, when I decided to uninstall Magisk, thinking about my guarantee that comes until next year.
I was confident that Knox in my phone intact, because Knox Status App showed it. Then I followed the procedure: I uninstalled all my modules

Uninstalled Battery Charge Limit App

I uninstalled root explorer app

I uninstalled Termux App

Finally, I opened Magisk App and did the complete uninstallation.

The Phone was restarted, according to the automatic product of Magisk App.

I decided, then open Knox Status App, and to my surprise he showed that Knox was burned!

I thought so, that since I had lost my warranty, I decided to go back to rooting my phone again using Magisk.
I'm back to my phone as I was.

After doing all the procedure again of Magisk Installation in my Phone, I decided, out of curiosity and intuition, take a look at the Knox Status App, and to my surprise, it showed that Knox in my phone was NOT burned, as shown in the figure attached .

After all, how can I know if Knox is burned or not?

Do Root in Phone Using Magisk Burns Knox?

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Hi

I do not know if here is the right place, but as it is about Magisk ... Anyway I ask the administrators to move the topic to the appropriate place .

I rooted my Phone Galaxy M12 according to this topic.

I was not worried because when I installed it, it was not mentioned that Knox would be burned ...

I used for some time the phone until yesterday, when I decided to uninstall Magisk, thinking about my guarantee that comes until next year.
I was confident that Knox in my phone intact, because Knox Status App showed it. Then I followed the procedure: I uninstalled all my modules

Uninstalled Battery Charge Limit App

I uninstalled root explorer app

I uninstalled Termux App

Finally, I opened Magisk App and did the complete uninstallation.

The Phone was restarted, according to the automatic product of Magisk App.

I decided, then open Knox Status App, and to my surprise he showed that Knox was burned!

I thought so, that since I had lost my warranty, I decided to go back to rooting my phone again using Magisk.
I'm back to my phone as I was.

After doing all the procedure again of Magisk Installation in my Phone, I decided, out of curiosity and intuition, take a look at the Knox Status App, and to my surprise, it showed that Knox in my phone was NOT burned, as shown in the figure attached .

After all, how can I know if Knox is burned or not?

Do Root in Phone Using Magisk Burns Knox?

many thanks
Bro so you mean i should root my phone again and check whether it gets reset or not... ???
 

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Bro so you mean i should root my phone again and check whether it gets reset or not... ???
Hi

I do not know if here is the right place, but as it is about Magisk ... Anyway I ask the administrators to move the topic to the appropriate place .

I rooted my Phone Galaxy M12 according to this topic.

I was not worried because when I installed it, it was not mentioned that Knox would be burned ...

I used for some time the phone until yesterday, when I decided to uninstall Magisk, thinking about my guarantee that comes until next year.
I was confident that Knox in my phone intact, because Knox Status App showed it. Then I followed the procedure: I uninstalled all my modules

Uninstalled Battery Charge Limit App

I uninstalled root explorer app

I uninstalled Termux App

Finally, I opened Magisk App and did the complete uninstallation.

The Phone was restarted, according to the automatic product of Magisk App.

I decided, then open Knox Status App, and to my surprise he showed that Knox was burned!

I thought so, that since I had lost my warranty, I decided to go back to rooting my phone again using Magisk.
I'm back to my phone as I was.

After doing all the procedure again of Magisk Installation in my Phone, I decided, out of curiosity and intuition, take a look at the Knox Status App, and to my surprise, it showed that Knox in my phone was NOT burned, as shown in the figure attached .

After all, how can I know if Knox is burned or not?

Do Root in Phone Using Magisk Burns Knox?

many thanks
And one more question bro Does your safety net pass or fails
 

Philnicolls89

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Do Root in Phone Using Magisk Burns Knox?

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Knox is a physical fuse that blows when you root your phone, there is no way to fix it once it's been tripped. Most samsung features can still be made to work except for samsung pay which will never work again on that device (google pay will still work).
Going on your screen shot, it must be returning a false result for some reason which is strange, but Knox will indeed have been tripped.
 
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Knox is a physical fuse that blows when you root your phone, there is no way to fix it once it's been tripped. Most samsung features can still be made to work except for samsung pay which will never work again on that device (google pay will still work).
Going on your screen shot, it must be returning a false result for some reason which is strange, but Knox will indeed have been tripped.
How false result bro??? Its a glitch or ...
 

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Hi

I do not know if here is the right place, but as it is about Magisk ... Anyway I ask the administrators to move the topic to the appropriate place .

I rooted my Phone Galaxy M12 according to this topic.

I was not worried because when I installed it, it was not mentioned that Knox would be burned ...

I used for some time the phone until yesterday, when I decided to uninstall Magisk, thinking about my guarantee that comes until next year.
I was confident that Knox in my phone intact, because Knox Status App showed it. Then I followed the procedure: I uninstalled all my modules

Uninstalled Battery Charge Limit App

I uninstalled root explorer app

I uninstalled Termux App

Finally, I opened Magisk App and did the complete uninstallation.

The Phone was restarted, according to the automatic product of Magisk App.

I decided, then open Knox Status App, and to my surprise he showed that Knox was burned!

I thought so, that since I had lost my warranty, I decided to go back to rooting my phone again using Magisk.
I'm back to my phone as I was.

After doing all the procedure again of Magisk Installation in my Phone, I decided, out of curiosity and intuition, take a look at the Knox Status App, and to my surprise, it showed that Knox in my phone was NOT burned, as shown in the figure attached .

After all, how can I know if Knox is burned or not?

Do Root in Phone Using Magisk Burns Knox?

many thanks
I'm not a Samsung user and I don't know much about the Knox but just some thoughts:

In the thread you linked above there is your post (isn't it?) where you described that you unlocked the Bootloader and by that tripped the Knox
As I did on my sm-m127f (aka galaxy M12)

DO NOT PATCH THE ROM WITH THE MAGISK APP FROM OFFICIAL GITHUB AS THAT WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE.

1) Download my firmware stock .
I used the "SamFirm_Reborn" program, which the creator says downloads from Samsung servers

2) Unlocking bootloader: I think this is a great guide for it. Keep in mind that you must unlock the bootloader before proceeding with installation, and you WILL trip knox when you do so. Also, unlocking bootloader and installing Magisk will wipe your data + internal storage, so please back up all of your data before installation.

3) I downloaded Magisk patched , shown in the tutorial


4) I followed the tutorial on this page (read carefully) to install Magisk .I followed the installation regarding Samsung devices .

DO NOT PATCH THE ROM WITH THE MAGISK APP FROM OFFICIAL GITHUB AS THAT WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE.

I used Magisk Patched instead of the official magisk !!!

5) By following the part of the tutorial to install Magisk where it says:

"Install the latest Magisk app and launch the app. It should show a dialog asking for additional setup. Let it do its job and the app will automatically reboot your device."

I used the patched Magisk given in this tutorial

6) After everything done , in Magisk app , I disabled updates ...

On the other side, Magisk Hide and modules like USNF help to pass the SafetyNet (and therefore mask the fact that Bootloader was unlocked)

Hence you could try now with Magisk, if you turn off Magisk Hide (and disable USNF module if you use it), then after reboot, would it still show that Knox was not tripped?
 

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How false result bro??? Its a glitch or ...
As @zgfg just stated, it's possible that the app used to check knox is being fooled by magisk or other modules hiding an unlocked bootloader and root status. But I guarantee knox has been tripped if you are rooted, there is no question! Aswell as testing using the method @zgfg described, you could also simply try to use samsung pay as it won't work on a device that had tripped knox
 

pndwal

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Hi

I do not know if here is the right place, but as it is about Magisk ... Anyway I ask the administrators to move the topic to the appropriate place .

I rooted my Phone Galaxy M12 according to this topic.

I was not worried because when I installed it, it was not mentioned that Knox would be burned ...

I used for some time the phone until yesterday, when I decided to uninstall Magisk, thinking about my guarantee that comes until next year.
I was confident that Knox in my phone intact, because Knox Status App showed it. Then I followed the procedure: I uninstalled all my modules

Uninstalled Battery Charge Limit App

I uninstalled root explorer app

I uninstalled Termux App

Finally, I opened Magisk App and did the complete uninstallation.

The Phone was restarted, according to the automatic product of Magisk App.

I decided, then open Knox Status App, and to my surprise he showed that Knox was burned!

I thought so, that since I had lost my warranty, I decided to go back to rooting my phone again using Magisk.
I'm back to my phone as I was.

After doing all the procedure again of Magisk Installation in my Phone, I decided, out of curiosity and intuition, take a look at the Knox Status App, and to my surprise, it showed that Knox in my phone was NOT burned, as shown in the figure attached .

After all, how can I know if Knox is burned or not?

Do Root in Phone Using Magisk Burns Knox?

many thanks
I understand that very early implementations of Samsung Knox actually did use a "resettable" warranty bit, but all late Knox varieties behave as follows...

John is well aware that Knox is tripped by Magisk & warns explicitly in official Installation Instruction:
"- Installing Magisk WILL trip KNOX"
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/install.html#before-installing-magisk

Samsung users need to understand the Knox warranty bit (e-fuse) before installing any custom firmware:
It is a one-time programmable bit e-fuse, which can only be turned from 0X0 to 0X1 (i.e. tripped).

If a non-Knox boot loader or kernel has been installed on the device, Knox can no longer guarantee the security of the Knox container. As a result, the Warranty Bit is tripped to 0X1, indicating that this device can no longer use the Knox Workspace (container.)

If the Knox bit has tripped:

  • A new Workspace can no longer be created on such a device.
  • The data encrypted and stored in an existing Workspace can no longer be retrieved.
  • Other Samsung services that utilize Knox security stop working (Samsung Pay, Secure Folder.)
...

If the Warranty Bit is tripped, the device displays Knox WARRANTY VOID: 0x01.

If that is the case, there is no way to revert the Warranty Bit and Knox won't work on this device. The only way to get the device back to its original settings is to replace the PBA (Printed Board Assembly) on the device; hardware replacement will be required.
https://docs.samsungknox.com/admin/knox-platform-for-enterprise/faqs/faq-115013562087.htm
-Use the key combo given here to properly check Knox status.
-Additional lost functionality is described in the "what happens..." link from here.

Simply unlocking the bootloader doesn't trip Knox.

Magisk (current builds) add props to spoof 0x0 Knox from v12.0.
https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/changes.html#v120

A little re. how Knox affects warranty:
Once the e-fuse is set...

In the United States, this information may be used by Samsung to deny warranty service to devices that have been modified in this manner. Voiding consumer warranties in this manner may be prohibited by the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act of 1975, at least in cases where the phone's problem is not directly caused by rooting.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Knox

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@cater2 The link you posted *does* say KNOX will be blown. (It says blown by unlocking bootloader; I have read elsewhere it is only blown when an unsigned image is flashed to boot or recovery.)

If you put your device into download mode, does the little block of text in the upper left of the screen say anything about "KNOX Warranty Status"?

When you have Magisk installed, do you enable MagiskHide?
 
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@cater2 The link you posted *does* say KNOX will be blown. (It says blown by unlocking bootloader; I have read elsewhere it is only blown when an unsigned image is flashed to boot or recovery.)
I'm fairly certain that this is just a wrong but oft. repeated fallacy.

Sammy say "The Knox Warranty Bit detects if a non-Knox kernel has been loaded on the device" or a "non-Knox boot loader" or "If you root your device".

https://docs.samsungknox.com/admin/knox-platform-for-enterprise/faqs/faq-115013562087.htm

https://docs.samsungknox.com/admin/knox-platform-for-enterprise/faqs/faq-115013719548.htm

Other reputable sources agree:
Samsung’s Knox documentation says that, if you root your phone and flash it with an unofficial Android build, anything having to do with its Knox security will be permanently disabled, and will only be restored if you replace the phone’s hardware. This means that, if you root a Samsung phone, features like Samsung Pay and Secure Folder won’t ever work again.

To be clear, this doesn’t happen if you just unlock your phone’s bootloader — it only occurs after you make changes to the phone’s OS (though doing so is the main reason to unlock your bootloader, so it’s perhaps a distinction without much difference).
https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...axy-z-fold-3-camera-disable-bootloader-unlock

They boast however "Samsung Knox brings defense-grade security"

And: "Why Knox?
- 1 B+ Samsung devices secured
- 70 M+ devices managed daily
- 20,000+ businesses supported worldwide"
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/about-knox

Also, camera is now used for "Knox Capture - Enterprise-grade scanning on your device"!

... Wonder if this justifies the warning when unlocking the bootloader: "Doing so will cause the camera to be disabled" (see Verge article above) on late models / updated firmwares... PW
 
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    So try a ROM at least as recent as the newest ROM you've ever installed, but with the right CSC code. After your phone is usable as a phone you can think about re-installing Magisk.
    Didn't work out. Odin just stopped right before passing stage. I rebooted the phone manualy, baseband is still unknown as long as EMEI.
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    Unfortunately, multi-user mode did not help. Deleting files from a folder adb Neither. I guess the only thing left is wipe data
    Mmm. Not sure that will help either... You can open a GitHub issue if you're prepared to install Debug Magisk build and supply logs; Devs might help further. 🙃 PW
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    Is EMEI IMEI in another language?

    Please explain "as long as EMEI".

    I can't keep track of your situation. The ROM IDs you posted a week ago do not make it obvious that your device has anything with version 17 while you are trying to install version 16.

    I do not understand the country codes. Or the CSC, if that is something other than country code.

    Maybe you still aren't trying to install the right ROM. Remember, at this point we don't care what software you wish you had. You are supposed to be finding a ROM that is meant for your device, maybe associated with your carrier, maybe tagged with your location. Possibly complicated by it cannot be older than what is already on your device.

    Can you go to your service provider and tell them you need help? (If you bought the phone from someone other than your service provider, start with the person who sold you the phone.) The service provider should have some interest in helping you -- if you can't use the service, you won't keep paying for it.

    Maybe you can install a custom ROM. Check other threads to see whether something like LineageOS has been installed on the same device, and whether the device then functions as a phone.
    Other saga details:
    https://xdaforums.com/t/sm-g975f-is-this-the-end-of-the-journey-for-my-phone.4663849/#post-89440576

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    I'm now having a problem hiding the TJW Magisk 27002 app ...

    I finally was able to resurrect my old Pixel 5. It's running stock A11 and was running TJW Magisk 26004 with no problem.

    The Magisk manager was showing that the upgrade to 27002 was ready for installation, and so I did the following:

    (1) Unhide Magisk
    (2) Update Magisk (27002 was listed)
    (3) After Magisk manager restarted, I did Direct Update to 27002, including reboot
    (4) Magisk 27002 indeed came up properly after reboot.
    (5) Tried to perform Hide The Magisk App.

    I entered the arbitrary name for hiding, and I clicked "OK". But the hiding never took place.

    I rebooted again, to see if perhaps that's necessary, and I repeated the hiding attempt by adding the same arbitrary name, and I again clicked "OK". But the hiding still didn't take place.

    I searched my device, and there is no app nor shortcut with that arbitrary name. I also tried other, different arbitrary names, but after clicking "OK", the hiding still didn't take place for any name I chose.

    What am I missing?
    Known issue. A fix has been merged. You can use the Debug app, revert back to 27001 or wait until 27003 is released.

    EDIT: Ninja'd 🙃
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    I'm now having a problem hiding the TJW Magisk 27002 app ...

    I finally was able to resurrect my old Pixel 5. It's running stock A11 and was running TJW Magisk 26004 with no problem.

    The Magisk manager was showing that the upgrade to 27002 was ready for installation, and so I did the following:

    (1) Unhide Magisk
    (2) Update Magisk (27002 was listed)
    (3) After Magisk manager restarted, I did Direct Update to 27002, including reboot
    (4) Magisk 27002 indeed came up properly after reboot.
    (5) Tried to perform Hide The Magisk App.

    I entered the arbitrary name for hiding, and I clicked "OK". But the hiding never took place.

    I rebooted again, to see if perhaps that's necessary, and I repeated the hiding attempt by adding the same arbitrary name, and I again clicked "OK". But the hiding still didn't take place.

    I searched my device, and there is no app nor shortcut with that arbitrary name. I also tried other, different arbitrary names, but after clicking "OK", the hiding still didn't take place for any name I chose.

    What am I missing?
    Known problem with 27002, the debug version doesn't have the problem with hiding, read back to see the discussion about it
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    Is the Magisk 27001 APK/zip still available anywhere? I'd like to downgrade, but I can only find 27000 on Github and 27002 via update. I don't want to go to Canary in case the mounting changes break anything, or Debug as I hear the extra logging etc. causes performance issues (correct me if I'm wrong).
    Only v27000 is Stable. (and Beta). v27001 and v27002 are Canary or Debug

    Set your Update Channel to Stable and you will see (just like you can see also on GitHub) that latest Stable is v27000, there was never Stable v27001 or v27002

    Generally, Stable is always Nx100

    So, you cannot downgrade to Stable v27001 but Canary v27001 should be just like Stable v27000 (same codebase). That's also the general policy, whenever Nx100 Stable is released, then immediately comes Canary Nx100 +1, on the same code-base

    Therefore, downgrade to Stable v27000 instead
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    Not sure if the fix has been pushed yet but looking at GitHub it's been sorted
    Not pushed yet according to my magisk app.
    Luckily i don't hide or need to hide; this is a sad bug and i hope, for others' sake, it's pushed as soon as the developers can. But that's also why it's canary and not beta or release, it's why (or should be why) we use canary, to squash bugs before the rest experience them.
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    Not sure if the fix has been pushed yet but looking at GitHub it's been sorted
    Not pushed yet... Looks like recent Android Gradle plugin upgrade just didn't build properly... Guess a new build may come once Upgrade AGP is reverted but may not happen till AGP upgrade is redone. 🤪 PW
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    Hello, I haven't given much support on XDA lately. It can be resulted from
    • University started and I have limited free time. In fact, I mostly develop during midnight
    • I live in Taiwan, which has large time zone differences between my European/American contributors/testers, which usually forces me to stay up late at night to discuss/test stuffs.
    • The new version is about to come, I don't want to spend effort on supporting old releases
    The planned update is delayed again and again, to some point I think I'll shed some light about what has been happening lately, also along with some announcements.

    New Forum!
    As you might have already discovered, Magisk got its own subforum on XDA! Many thanks to all the support you gave me, and much more information/features/support is about to come!
    **For developers supporting all the devices that are not using standard Android boot format, feel free to create threads in this section (actually, PLEASE do so) for your favorite devices after v7 is out. As I currently know, Asus devices require signing the boot image before flashing, and is model dependant; Sony devices seems to use ELF kernel that is unpatchable, or some has two ramdisks (inner + outer), both requires different workarounds; LG bootloader locked devices has to manually "BUMP" the boot image after flashing Magisk..... and there may be lots of other crazy boot image formats that haven't come up to my attention yet.
    It is impossible for me to support all these non-standard boot images, and I hope the community can collaborate to make Magisk running across all the devices. Overall, community collaboration is what XDA about :D

    The Pixel Phone
    Some of you might already know this news, that the next Pixel Phone right around the corner seems like it does not have ramdisk in boot image, which pretty much wrecked Magisk in all ways. However, it pretty much doomed root itself too. Kernel modifications is inevitable IMO, so I'll try to migrate my scripts to C programs that could possibly be included into the kernel itself. Note that I'm not familiar with linux kernel, I'm not even sure if my idea and concept is correct or not. But once the device is available, I think developers will find a way to bypass all the difficulties, and I'll do my best to learn things ;)

    Current Progress
    In the past month, I've spent quite some time learning SELinux, so that I can avoid using SuperSU's sepolicy patches. Thanks to the helps and tips from @phhusson and @Chainfire, I finally have a much clearer understanding of how SELinux works. The Magisk core parts (the scripts, boot image patches, new features, more supports) are actually done some time ago. What is causing all the delays is the Magisk Manager.
    To be completely honest, although I can code in Java without much issues, Magisk Manager is actually my first Android application, I had to reach out for assistance, and fortunately awesome developers like @DVDandroid and @digitalhigh contributed a lot, which makes the current Manager awesome.
    After the repo system and module management is mostly done, I was about to do some adjustments and release, but what we really done is decided to add another feature: auto-unroot with per-app settings. I decided to wait for it to be finished, and then do my adjustments. Due to reasons that'll be mentioned later, this feature will likely not be available for the next release (should come in future updates)

    Safety Net Disaster
    Those who are using Magisk for Safety Net bypass purposes must have known that Google recently updated the detection method of my Systemless Xposed. I still have no idea what Safety Net is detecting, so currently I cannot fix it on my side (also because I'm busy working on the next update). However, suhide developed by @Chainfire is able to hide Xposed and worked fine.
    However, only my Systemless Xposed v86.2, which is based on SuperSU's su.d, is supported using that method. v86.2 and v86.5 (latest, Magisk based) have nearly identical binaries, and the only difference is the path where the binaries are stored.
    I'm still not sure what's the real issue for it not being supported, I just hope it is not done intentionally.

    Conclusion
    Due to the fact that my Safety Net bypass is not 100% perfect now, I do not want to spend any more time waiting for auto-unroot to be polished. What I'm doing now is finishing up all the things I'd like to change in Magisk Manager (it has been a while since I last contributed to Manager, my fellow developers are doing all the heavy job), which might take a little more time, after that, packed with tons of information to be announced in Magisk Section, I'll release the long awaited update.

    Hope this lengthy post gives you the idea of the whole situation, and again thanks for all your support!!
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    Ah, some Chainfire bashing, I hope it is not too late for me to exercise additional villainy.

    First, let me make clear I have nothing against @topjohnwu, nor against Magisk. Magisk is an interesting project and it certainly displays @topjohnwu ingenuity and persistence. I don't doubt we will see more interesting things from his hands.

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    What has happened here is not all that dark and complicated, from either end. I returned from holidays, and someone pointed me at Magisk. My first thought: interesting!

    Among other things, the thread lists some issues with SuperSU, which in combination with the phrase The developer also requests users to not bug Chainfire with compatibility requests for SuperSU with Magisk from the portal article, raised my left eyebrow by nigh half an inch. The popular systemless xposed mod is apparently now based on it, and apparently it now no longer works with SuperSU, and apparently I'm not supposed to fix that, nor any of the other found issues. I found that a bit weird. So yes, I have told @topjohnwu that I was a bit surprised he was posting about issues with SuperSU without notifying me about them (I can't fix or help fix issues I'm not aware of, after all).

    He's also spreading a modified version of the SuperSU package, which is not all that uncommon, nor necessarily a problem. I have not looked into what he modified, I only ran a few quick tests on one of my devices, and found some commonly used commands run as root to be broken. I have informed him of this as well.

    It appears the tool of choice for Magisk is phh's Superuser, because of some of the mentioned issues with SuperSU. That's fine by itself, but fixing issues in that superuser by incorporating SuperSU's binaries into it is a somewhat questionable practise. After all, SuperSU is a commercial closed-source package that helps pay for my dinner, and superuser is a direct competitor. I have informed him that I was surprised he did this without asking for permission. I have expressed similar surprise on him spreading a modified version of LiveBoot (which helps pay for a snack now and then).
    @topjohnwu has also stated that Magisk's scripts are largely influenced by mine (I have not checked). Scripts based on mine are used all over the place on XDA, some people have crafted amazing things based on them, I have never made an issue of this (otherwise I would have just made them binaries). But yes, I have also stated to him that I don't think it's very nice to base something on one program, and then using that to (almost exclusively) push something directly competing with that program.

    tl;dr Towards @topjohnwu, I have:
    - expressed surprise he has issues getting Magisk to work with SuperSU, and has chosen not to inform me about those
    - expressed surprise he is using SuperSU binaries in a competing superuser without permission
    - expressed surprise he is posting a modified LiveBoot without permission
    - informed him of issues with the modified SuperSU he has posted
    - let him know I thought it wasn't very nice to be applying my scripts to benefit seemingly exclusively that same competing superuser

    To be crystal clear:
    - I have not asked for an apology
    - I have not asked for Magisk to be abandoned, neither the root hiding nor systemless module parts, and certainly not systemless xposed
    - I have not made an issue of any of this anywhere, until this post
    - I have not even specifically asked for anything to be taken down (though obviously in my opinion the other superuser package mixed with SuperSU's binaries, as well as the LiveBoot package, should go)
    - I have not reported this thread to XDA moderators for copyright violations or otherwise

    While my conversation with @topjohnwu may not win any awards for being friendly (though it may win some for brevity), I think all things considered my response has been rather mild. To be perfectly honest, until the apology post, I thought this was over with already. I think the apology post was triggered because I haven't replied to his last PM for a while - I was in the zone, it happens.

    To emphasize again, I have nothing against @topjohnwu, Magisk, or systemless xposed, and it is certainly not my goal to see any of them go. If it can be made to work together with SuperSU, great.

    I get it though: you think of something, you want to see if you can make it work, you finally get it to work, you publish it, it takes off - enthusiasm gets the better of you. Maybe in the rush some mistakes are made. That doesn't mean you have to just drop it and run. None of my stuff would make it past 0.1 if I stopped at the first big mistake :)

    Aside from said being in the zone coding, I usually regret actually responding to these sort of things the day after, which has made me hesitant to reply. Surprise me.
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    Thread temporarily closed so everyone sees this.

    The flood of "SafetyNet isn't working for me either!" posts are not helpful, at all. Please refrain from posting further, it will be looked into. Please do not forget that not passing SafetyNet is 100% NORMAL AND INTENDED when you have an unlocked booloader or running custom firmware. These are workarounds and they will be worked around in turn.

    The Flash
    Forum Moderator

    EDIT: Thread is reopened... I will be cleaning any SafetyNet posts for a while to keep the thread clean for real issues.
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    Hello everyone!

    I am aware that Google has updated Safety Net that makes Magisk itself a no go for Android Pay. In fact, I witnessed the change live while I am developing the new magiskhide, which should hide all Magisk modules and Magisk installed root.

    Google is serious about Safety Net now, clearly hunting down all possibility to run Xposed with Safety Net passed. I spend quite some time examining the new security measures last midnight, and fortunately it seems that it is possible to run Magisk and root along with Safety Net if no Xposed is running. I'm glad I removed the old root toggle at the right time lol, that is no longer feasible with the latest detection.

    So stay tuned for the next update, it will come with bug fixes, along with the new magiskhide to bypass that Safety Net.

    Google, how will a few systemless mods do any harm :p:p